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OU_Country
12/6/2017 5:10 PM
I admit, I'm not much of a fan of Mike's, but one thing he said in here really caught my ear: He mentions the next CBA, and boy oh boy do I think that's gonna be UGLY negotiations.


https://twitter.com/MarkKaboly/status/938509336242020352
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bshot44
12/6/2017 10:02 PM
As a Steelers fan, Mitchell drives me insane ... but he was dead right today with everything he was saying
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allen
12/7/2017 5:54 AM
He will be on Goodell’s list. He went off on Goodell in the preseason because he was given a steroid test after working out with Harrison. He was right about Goodell, he is a poor leader.
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Mark Lembright '85
12/7/2017 9:02 AM
Personally I think both the players and the team owners are in for a rude awakening in the next CBA. The next round of talks with the TV networks about TV contracts could be ugly. I think the cash cow has died and I have to think TV revenue will be less in the next round of talks, possibly much less.
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OU_Country
12/7/2017 9:23 AM
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:expand_more
Personally I think both the players and the team owners are in for a rude awakening in the next CBA. The next round of talks with the TV networks about TV contracts could be ugly. I think the cash cow has died and I have to think TV revenue will be less in the next round of talks, possibly much less.
Combine that with all of the vague rules, suspensions, and fines related to player conduct, and it could be really ugly. And that doesn't even include how some fans interpret and respond to the kneeling. The money the owners just gave Goodell is insane, showing they probably don't realize that their league has probably reached it's peak in popularity and revenue generation.
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C Money
12/7/2017 9:55 AM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
The money the owners just gave Goodell is insane, showing they probably don't realize that their league has probably reached it's peak in popularity and revenue generation.
That's what I don't get. The NFL could fix a lot (not all, but a lot) of its player- and fan-relations issues by dumping Goodell. Instead, they give him an extension and raise????
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allen
12/7/2017 10:54 AM
C Money wrote:expand_more
The money the owners just gave Goodell is insane, showing they probably don't realize that their league has probably reached it's peak in popularity and revenue generation.
That's what I don't get. The NFL could fix a lot (not all, but a lot) of its player- and fan-relations issues by dumping Goodell. Instead, they give him an extension and raise????
The NFL is expanding into London and Mexico, ad revenues has increased and it is still number 1. They need a good leader and some good ambassadors to help expand their footprint into Mexico, London and they should also give Toronto a franchise. Goodell is a power hungry deplorable leader who will cause a strike because of his lack of vision.
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OU_Country
12/7/2017 4:24 PM
C Money wrote:expand_more
The money the owners just gave Goodell is insane, showing they probably don't realize that their league has probably reached it's peak in popularity and revenue generation.
That's what I don't get. The NFL could fix a lot (not all, but a lot) of its player- and fan-relations issues by dumping Goodell. Instead, they give him an extension and raise????
It is rather stunning that they gave him that kind of raise considering there isn't competition, and the current issues they face that to a certain degree, he has either caused (inconsistent discipline enforcement) or hasn't helped at all (kneeling controversy).
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BillyTheCat
12/7/2017 9:19 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
The money the owners just gave Goodell is insane, showing they probably don't realize that their league has probably reached it's peak in popularity and revenue generation.
That's what I don't get. The NFL could fix a lot (not all, but a lot) of its player- and fan-relations issues by dumping Goodell. Instead, they give him an extension and raise????
It is rather stunning that they gave him that kind of raise considering there isn't competition, and the current issues they face that to a certain degree, he has either caused (inconsistent discipline enforcement) or hasn't helped at all (kneeling controversy).
There is no rule on kneeling, and after the President made the references he’s did, the best move to make was to do nothing on the kneeling.

The NFL is a $7 Billion a year entity, and under Goodell the TV and sponsorship money to the owners has skyrocketed, he’s earned that money by making the NFL and it’s owners the wealthiest League in the US. His salary is on par with any major business who’s making that kind of cash.
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OhioStunter
12/11/2017 1:07 PM
Sidebar on Mike Mitchell:

I didn't quite realize how much he has overcome to be a solid NFL player.

-Did he ever get all-conference? I don't think he did.

-He wasn't invited to the NFL Combine.

-Many had him as a potential UFA.

-He gets drafted in the second round and is still a force today.

That's how you make a name for yourself.
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bshot44
12/11/2017 2:37 PM
Just don't search his name on Twitter during a Steelers game ...

All you'll find is a running diary of people cursing him for his blown coverages and horrific tackling.

I've cursed him once or twice watching the Black and Gold.

He can be incredibly frustrating to watch ... but I do agree, he has had a long NFL career, something not a lot of Bobcats have accomplished over the years.
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OU_Country
12/12/2017 11:45 AM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
Sidebar on Mike Mitchell:

I didn't quite realize how much he has overcome to be a solid NFL player.

-Did he ever get all-conference? I don't think he did.

-He wasn't invited to the NFL Combine.

-Many had him as a potential UFA.

-He gets drafted in the second round and is still a force today.

That's how you make a name for yourself.

Away from football, I suspect Mike is a good guy. At the end of the day that's what matters. Even though as a player I don't like him, his antics, and those of his team. I do truly believe that Tomlin's attitude has rubbed off on Mike, along with several other players on that team, and he adds to the attitudes of certain other players - Antonio Brown as an example.

I guess Tomlin wins, but he's not the type of class act that his predecessor showed to be.
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bshot44
12/12/2017 12:23 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Sidebar on Mike Mitchell:

I didn't quite realize how much he has overcome to be a solid NFL player.

-Did he ever get all-conference? I don't think he did.

-He wasn't invited to the NFL Combine.

-Many had him as a potential UFA.

-He gets drafted in the second round and is still a force today.

That's how you make a name for yourself.

Away from football, I suspect Mike is a good guy. At the end of the day that's what matters. Even though as a player I don't like him, his antics, and those of his team. I do truly believe that Tomlin's attitude has rubbed off on Mike, along with several other players on that team, and he adds to the attitudes of certain other players - Antonio Brown as an example.

I guess Tomlin wins, but he's not the type of class act that his predecessor showed to be.
Agree on most points. He does seem like a great guy off-the-field ... does a lot of charity, etc.

On the field ... his antics are tiresome. Especially because he isn't good enough to be acting like that. Steelers have let up something like six 50+ yard TD passes this year ... the most in franchise history since the '30s or something. Many of those you can see #23 chasing down the receiver that has blown past him.

But I wouldn't single out the Steelers are the sole violator of good sportsmanship on the field. Sadly ... this is what the NFL has become across the board with all teams.

From Gronk to OBJ to Burfict ... the list goes on and on of guys who do questionable things on the field.

And yes ... Tomlin is a little different in his coaching ... a little more of hype-guy than others ... but I don't think he condones what JuJu Smith-Schuster did to Burfict or a lot of the antics Antonio pulls during a game.

This league is becoming the wild west more and more each day ... and that starts at the top with Goodell. The league's inability to create a standard for what the rules are leaves the cavernous grey area of what guys think they can/can't get away with ... especially when it comes to tackling/hitting on defense.

They are so wildly inconsistent in the way they referee and police the league ... it's hard to watch sometimes.
Last Edited: 12/12/2017 12:24:30 PM by bshot44
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allen
12/12/2017 12:27 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Sidebar on Mike Mitchell:

I didn't quite realize how much he has overcome to be a solid NFL player.

-Did he ever get all-conference? I don't think he did.

-He wasn't invited to the NFL Combine.

-Many had him as a potential UFA.

-He gets drafted in the second round and is still a force today.

That's how you make a name for yourself.

Away from football, I suspect Mike is a good guy. At the end of the day that's what matters. Even though as a player I don't like him, his antics, and those of his team. I do truly believe that Tomlin's attitude has rubbed off on Mike, along with several other players on that team, and he adds to the attitudes of certain other players - Antonio Brown as an example.

I guess Tomlin wins, but he's not the type of class act that his predecessor showed to be.

What has Tomlin done to get his character assassinated? It kind of sound Pennsylvania fire chiefish. http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/video/steelers-villanueva-ma...
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/09/26/tomlin-addresse... /
Last Edited: 12/12/2017 12:32:54 PM by allen
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Sean Gallagher
12/12/2017 10:13 PM
He's a Squeeler. Enough said.
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allen
12/13/2017 9:42 AM
Sean Gallagher wrote:expand_more
He's a Squeeler. Enough said.
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