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Topic: How much longer will the ESPN money be there for the MAC?
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rpbobcat
4/28/2017 11:59 AM
colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
I hear...well, actually I'm 100%, totally making up..that OHIO may change conferences, probably going to, at least, ACC level.

Why not? We always have these thoughts and haven't had it for a while.


Heck, with Zaire transferring in to OHIO, we're hot attractive!
I hear it's a sure thing since an anonymous donor from California who sells doggie bags had donated $100,000,000 to build a new football field-Monroe Stadium.
I was thinking he may want it called "No MACC Stadium".
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Monroe Slavin
4/28/2017 1:53 PM
That's a disaster, fake news, and someone else will be blamed for it.


The stadium name, of course, is correct.

But it won't cost $100 million. It will cost $21 billion..by which, of course, I mean $74 billion.

While it will never be built, of course, you can be sure that stupd cow Marshall will pay for it to be built.


Now excuse me while I go watch the news headlines on certain selected, non-fake-news channels about how terrific I am.
Last Edited: 4/28/2017 1:54:15 PM by Monroe Slavin
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OhioCatFan
4/28/2017 1:55 PM
colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
I hear...well, actually I'm 100%, totally making up..that OHIO may change conferences, probably going to, at least, ACC level.

Why not? We always have these thoughts and haven't had it for a while.


Heck, with Zaire transferring in to OHIO, we're hot attractive!
I hear it's a sure thing since an anonymous donor from California who sells doggie bags had donated $100,000,000 to build a new football field-Monroe Stadium.
I believe the proper terminology is that it's "a done deal"!
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C Money
8/8/2017 5:21 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
I think the question is whether the leagues themselves handle the streaming, or ESPN abandons the cable model, or a new player like Netflix or Amazon incorporates live sports.
IMHO, if ESPN doesn't abandon the cable model they will not survive. For the next several years they need to be in a transition mode where they are still in cable but are putting increasing emphasis on streaming.
And here is the answer:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/disney-pull-movies-netflix...
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Ohio69
8/9/2017 8:33 AM
It will be interesting to see what the price will be. HBO Now is like $15 per month. Wonder if it could reach that level.
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MedinaCat
8/9/2017 12:42 PM
Ohio69 wrote:expand_more
It will be interesting to see what the price will be. HBO Now is like $15 per month. Wonder if it could reach that level.
I currently stream ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPN3 via Sling for $20/month. If they charge more than the Netflix basic package of $7.99/month, I believe they will be priced too high.
Last Edited: 8/9/2017 12:43:18 PM by MedinaCat
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C Money
12/5/2017 4:08 PM
http://awfulannouncing.com/fox/disney-will-reportedly-get...

So, either ESPN is doubling down on its cable TV strategy by shifting more content to the regional networks & requiring more cable TV subscriptions to see the content we want to see, or (hopefully) it is looking for a way to put together a regional sports streaming package for the new streaming service.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
12/5/2017 4:11 PM
C Money wrote:expand_more
http://awfulannouncing.com/fox/disney-will-reportedly-get...

So, either ESPN is doubling down on its cable TV strategy by shifting more content to the regional networks & requiring more cable TV subscriptions to see the content we want to see, or (hopefully) it is looking for a way to put together a regional sports streaming package for the new streaming service.
This is going to be interesting. What ESPN is looking to do from the sounds of this is make itself one of the few cats controlling the negotiating table in regards to sporting events. When you eliminate a power source for Fox to go negotiate with and make your regional networking effective, it's going to help ESPN in their quest for programming.

That said, this is a lot of overhead to take on and also means their contract guys are going to be involved in numerous smaller deals....this could get fun to watch a hog take on more gristle and fat.
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OhioStunter
12/5/2017 7:17 PM
This will be interesting to watch as program viewing habits are at a crossroads.

Live sports will be even more of a commodity given the shift in "binge watching" and on-demand viewing.

Does that mean you'll see streaming providers like Hulu, Prime and Netflix get into the live sports streaming exclusivity for certain sports?

Will the NCAA, conferences, and/or pro sports orgs (who all have already created their own networks), now shift games exclusively to those networks (and apps)?

If you think newspapers and magazines are dying, wait until you see the future of the Big 4 TV networks. Once the saturation of the market is in a good place with technology (a few years ago, we may not have all had cell phones/tablets/interactive TVs, but that is quickly becoming standard in homes), advertising will go where people are going. (Hint: it won't be as much traditional TV ads as you think).

I don't think that's good news for the MAC. With such a small viewing audience, I don't think they will get the revenue on their own. They will need to be part of a "programming package" that providers can offer (if the other big sports go off on their own).
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Pataskala
12/6/2017 12:51 PM
This is comparable to Sears buying KMart. One failing concern buys another just like it.
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C Money
2/7/2018 9:36 AM
New details on ESPN's forthcoming streaming app:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/with-fox-merger-and-esp...
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/6/16981894/disney-espn-pl...

-$4.99/mo
-No access to games on the networks, so you're basically paying $5 per month for ESPN3.
-It's still unclear whether you have to subscribe to ESPN to get the streaming service. "Iger says Disney will not make ESPN Plus available unless you’re a 'traditional or non-traditional' subscriber of standard ESPN." I don't know what that means.
-No discussion of stream quality issues.

IMO, this is a huge whiff by ESPN. They're charging for something that was free without any added benefit. If I could get streaming access to the networks + some assurance of stream quality, sure, $5/mo is a great deal. $10/mo would be a great deal. But this? Nah.
Last Edited: 2/7/2018 9:38:12 AM by C Money
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bshot44
2/8/2018 3:33 PM
C Money wrote:expand_more
New details on ESPN's forthcoming streaming app:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/with-fox-merger-and-esp...
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/6/16981894/disney-espn-pl...

-$4.99/mo
-No access to games on the networks, so you're basically paying $5 per month for ESPN3.
-It's still unclear whether you have to subscribe to ESPN to get the streaming service. "Iger says Disney will not make ESPN Plus available unless you’re a 'traditional or non-traditional' subscriber of standard ESPN." I don't know what that means.
-No discussion of stream quality issues.

IMO, this is a huge whiff by ESPN. They're charging for something that was free without any added benefit. If I could get streaming access to the networks + some assurance of stream quality, sure, $5/mo is a great deal. $10/mo would be a great deal. But this? Nah.
Knowing ESPN, they will f**k this up royally I'm guessing.

If I have to pay-per-view every game I want to watch .... I'm done with them. That's garbage.

I already pay for DirecTV ... and now I'm supposed pay more to get the ESPN+ games?!?!

Garbage.

Even $5/mo is absurd if you already are paying for ESPN thru cable/satellite TV.

Just going to nickel-and-dime folks to death on this is my guess.

Reason #4,987,404 I hate ESPN
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OhioCatFan
2/8/2018 7:39 PM
Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought this pay-by-the-mouth plan was for those who don't have access through something like a cable company subscription. Every so often, when I bring up my WatchESPN app, I have to authorize it via my Spectrum credentials. At this point they don't let anyone have access to WatchESPN live action without such credentials. I thought that this initiative was to allow folks now left out to have access without any affiliation with a cable company and/or a satellite system. Did I misread this?
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OhioStunter
2/8/2018 8:06 PM
Basically, more people are pulling the plug on paying for cable and opting for Neflix or Hulu for their TV entertainment. That's bad news for ESPN, because they pull in about $10/mo. of every cable bill from each cable subscriber. So as subscribers go down (and they are continuing to fall), ESPN loses revenue. Therefore, ESPN is looking for a Netflix version of live and recorded sports content.

People may need to subscribe for that. Frankly, live sports are the only thing keeping me subscribed to cable. If there's an opt-out for me to pay Netflix prices to access ESPN content, it would be cheaper for me to do that vs. cable and more profitable for ESPN.
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mcbin
3/1/2018 7:41 PM
Haven't seen the numbers yet, but it looks like the Sun Belt just signed a MAC-like deal with ESPN today. Will be interesting to see how the two compare.
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OhioStunter
3/1/2018 8:12 PM
mcbin wrote:expand_more
Haven't seen the numbers yet, but it looks like the Sun Belt just signed a MAC-like deal with ESPN today. Will be interesting to see how the two compare.
I looked at several reports and none I saw disclosed financials.

Seems similar in setup to the MAC deal.
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Brian Smith (No, not that one)
3/2/2018 1:13 PM
Hulu's live TV has everything we need for about $39 a month. Chose that over the other services because the wife is an Indiana grad and Chicago fan and this was the only package we found that had BTN and CSN Chicago available together. We were paying $140 a month for Direct. Put together with the MLB package, Netflix and the Amazon streaming service and we're at about $70 a month for everything and more we were paying double for previously. If I need to pay an extra 10 a month to get ESPN's streaming service for OU games, I will gladly.
Last Edited: 3/2/2018 1:14:34 PM by Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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OhioStunter
3/2/2018 1:37 PM
Brian Smith wrote:expand_more
Hulu's live TV has everything we need for about $39 a month. Chose that over the other services because the wife is an Indiana grad and Chicago fan and this was the only package we found that had BTN and CSN Chicago available together. We were paying $140 a month for Direct. Put together with the MLB package, Netflix and the Amazon streaming service and we're at about $70 a month for everything and more we were paying double for previously. If I need to pay an extra 10 a month to get ESPN's streaming service for OU games, I will gladly.
This is good intel, Brian. Thanks. I've been looking to make a cable cut, but didn't want to miss out on live sports nationally and here in Chicago.
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