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bobcatbucknut
2/20/2019 11:22 AM
How is Ohio not on this kid? He can flat out score. All time leader in school history. Committed to D2 Malone college but sure he would flip with an offer from a local D1 offer.
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OhioCatFan
2/20/2019 12:08 PM
I wish we had someone today who had the eye for local talent that Jim Snyder did. He found all kinds of "diamonds in the rough" in Southern Ohio. Look at his rosters over the years and you'll see players from all around the area who were not only on his teams but stars on his teams. Gentleman Jim was able to discern the potential of a player in the backwoods who might not be up against the greatest talent on opposing teams. That's a real skill, and I'm not sure we've had a coach since who was able to make those kinds of independent judgements and sign a kid no one else was after, but who had great potential.
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BillyTheCat
2/20/2019 12:16 PM
bobcatbucknut wrote:expand_more
How is Ohio not on this kid? He can flat out score. All time leader in school history. Committed to D2 Malone college but sure he would flip with an offer from a local D1 offer.
come on! The kid has zero DI scholarship offers, two DII last I checked. He's played AAU and traveled the country. He's a nice player, but obviously 350 other coaches see the same thing. We have pages and pages of post complaining about not being athletic enough and recruiting players with no other offers (or 1 or 2), then we want a thread where we argue to take another in the same mold. He is a great H.S. player, he's also a great person. But he will do much better playing DII basketball than coming to a DI program. And some will take this all wrong, but there is NOTHING wrong with going to a DII program and having a great career.
Last Edited: 2/20/2019 12:18:37 PM by BillyTheCat
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bobcatbucknut
2/20/2019 3:32 PM
Still think he has d1 talent and he's being missed for some reason. Logan has played a very tough schedule this year and he was the best player on the floor every game.
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DJCooperBurnerAccount
2/20/2019 4:15 PM
bobcatbucknut wrote:expand_more
Still think he has d1 talent and he's being missed for some reason. Logan has played a very tough schedule this year and he was the best player on the floor every game.
I agree. These kids have D1 talent, I don't understand why OU won't snag them. Will he start and be a 4 year letter winner? Maybe not. But we have 5-6 guys on scholarship riding the pine right now who don't sniff the floor. The plan is to develop these kids so jr/sr year they can contribute. I wish we would take a look at closer guys. Marshall grabbed a kid from Zanesville. A forward I believe... guess which school is closer to Zanesville? OU. But to my knowledge, Saul didn't sniff him.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
2/20/2019 7:55 PM
DJCooperBurnerAccount wrote:expand_more
Still think he has d1 talent and he's being missed for some reason. Logan has played a very tough schedule this year and he was the best player on the floor every game.
I agree. These kids have D1 talent, I don't understand why OU won't snag them. Will he start and be a 4 year letter winner? Maybe not. But we have 5-6 guys on scholarship riding the pine right now who don't sniff the floor. The plan is to develop these kids so jr/sr year they can contribute. I wish we would take a look at closer guys. Marshall grabbed a kid from Zanesville. A forward I believe... guess which school is closer to Zanesville? OU. But to my knowledge, Saul didn't sniff him.
+1

I don't mind if they don't have the talent, I just wanna see pride of our guys on the floor where if we're not as talented truly put up a fight. Guess I'm used to watching teams up our way in HS ball fight thru that stuff and be a well-coached unit that plays a similar style......

On the note of him going to a D2 and getting great opportunities, he totally will. Hope he kills it at D2 and shows what he can do. Scholarship still does the same thing as it would at the D1 level. Lil sis is playing D2 ball right now and it's one of those things where she's part of a tight bond with the teammates and enjoys the college.
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BillyTheCat
2/21/2019 8:15 AM
Let me put this another way. If this young man was not a local product, and we offered him with his lack of DI offers, then this board would be up in arms at our recruiting strategy of going after a kid who has no other offers. Lets just be fair and consistent in how we view things.
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brucecuth
2/21/2019 8:51 AM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Let me put this another way. If this young man was not a local product, and we offered him with his lack of DI offers, then this board would be up in arms at our recruiting strategy of going after a kid who has no other offers. Lets just be fair and consistent in how we view things.
voice of reason.
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DJCooperBurnerAccount
2/21/2019 9:44 AM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Let me put this another way. If this young man was not a local product, and we offered him with his lack of DI offers, then this board would be up in arms at our recruiting strategy of going after a kid who has no other offers. Lets just be fair and consistent in how we view things.
Shouldn't there be some locality to recruitment? Hey, let's offer some guy from Florida who will never see the court vs offering the same roster spot to a nearby kid who would bring more people out to games?
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shabamon
2/21/2019 9:47 AM
DJCooperBurnerAccount wrote:expand_more
Let me put this another way. If this young man was not a local product, and we offered him with his lack of DI offers, then this board would be up in arms at our recruiting strategy of going after a kid who has no other offers. Lets just be fair and consistent in how we view things.
Shouldn't there be some locality to recruitment? Hey, let's offer some guy from Florida who will never see the court vs offering the same roster spot to a nearby kid who would bring more people out to games?
No one's coming to see any player who can't make an impact on the court. Local or not.
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brucecuth
2/21/2019 11:32 AM
DJCooperBurnerAccount wrote:expand_more
Let me put this another way. If this young man was not a local product, and we offered him with his lack of DI offers, then this board would be up in arms at our recruiting strategy of going after a kid who has no other offers. Lets just be fair and consistent in how we view things.
Shouldn't there be some locality to recruitment? Hey, let's offer some guy from Florida who will never see the court vs offering the same roster spot to a nearby kid who would bring more people out to games?
If we are knowingly recruiting kids "who will never see the court" let's just disband the program. Sheeesh...
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DJCooperBurnerAccount
2/21/2019 12:30 PM
brucecuth wrote:expand_more
Let me put this another way. If this young man was not a local product, and we offered him with his lack of DI offers, then this board would be up in arms at our recruiting strategy of going after a kid who has no other offers. Lets just be fair and consistent in how we view things.
Shouldn't there be some locality to recruitment? Hey, let's offer some guy from Florida who will never see the court vs offering the same roster spot to a nearby kid who would bring more people out to games?
If we are knowingly recruiting kids "who will never see the court" let's just disband the program. Sheeesh...
I didn't say let's recruit kids who will never play. I said if we have two kids who won't make a major impact right away and have to be groomed- one local and one non-local; take the local kid for obvious reasons. But go ahead and keep pulling in scrubs from all over the US. That's working out great for our depth right now...
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DJCooperBurnerAccount
2/21/2019 12:31 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
Let me put this another way. If this young man was not a local product, and we offered him with his lack of DI offers, then this board would be up in arms at our recruiting strategy of going after a kid who has no other offers. Lets just be fair and consistent in how we view things.
Shouldn't there be some locality to recruitment? Hey, let's offer some guy from Florida who will never see the court vs offering the same roster spot to a nearby kid who would bring more people out to games?
No one's coming to see any player who can't make an impact on the court. Local or not.
Nobody is coming to games now anyways because we suck.... adding a local kid would not negatively impact that. If he's from Logan, people will travel to from there to see him. Bench or not.
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OUVan
2/21/2019 2:59 PM
https://www.prephoops.com/2018/07/recruiting-report-bo-my... /

According to the link above we did look at him.
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OUVan
2/21/2019 3:02 PM
DJCooperBurnerAccount wrote:expand_more
I didn't say let's recruit kids who will never play. I said if we have two kids who won't make a major impact right away and have to be groomed- one local and one non-local; take the local kid for obvious reasons. But go ahead and keep pulling in scrubs from all over the US. That's working out great for our depth right now...
Not sure I agree. You would go for the kid with the highest upside. You also have to think about roster balance to cover for injuries. And you also never know if the kid is willing to sit the bench for a year or two.
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brucecuth
2/21/2019 4:29 PM
DJCooperBurnerAccount wrote:expand_more
Let me put this another way. If this young man was not a local product, and we offered him with his lack of DI offers, then this board would be up in arms at our recruiting strategy of going after a kid who has no other offers. Lets just be fair and consistent in how we view things.
Shouldn't there be some locality to recruitment? Hey, let's offer some guy from Florida who will never see the court vs offering the same roster spot to a nearby kid who would bring more people out to games?
If we are knowingly recruiting kids "who will never see the court" let's just disband the program. Sheeesh...
I didn't say let's recruit kids who will never play. I said if we have two kids who won't make a major impact right away and have to be groomed- one local and one non-local; take the local kid for obvious reasons. But go ahead and keep pulling in scrubs from all over the US. That's working out great for our depth right now...
you keep repeating the same thought, just using different words. So I'll repeat myself. If we "keep pulling in scrubs from all over the U.S" let's just disband the program. Double sheesh.

We've got two kids from within 75 miles, both from Licking Co. Granted one is hurt, but the other is arguably our best player. My guess, and I emphasize guess, is if the exact same players came from, say Illinois, the difference in attendance would be in the neighborhood of 20 per game and that may be generous. Yes, Licking County is farther away, but it's also several times bigger than Hocking County, so the differences cancel each other out.


Were you around when Steve Bruning from Athens High School played for Ohio? I was. He was actually a decent reserve in the mid 80s. And it didn't affect attendance one way or the other. But slipping from 22 wins the first year he played to 14 his second certainly did.
Last Edited: 2/21/2019 4:31:08 PM by brucecuth
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DJCooperBurnerAccount
2/21/2019 4:51 PM
brucecuth wrote:expand_more
Let me put this another way. If this young man was not a local product, and we offered him with his lack of DI offers, then this board would be up in arms at our recruiting strategy of going after a kid who has no other offers. Lets just be fair and consistent in how we view things.
Shouldn't there be some locality to recruitment? Hey, let's offer some guy from Florida who will never see the court vs offering the same roster spot to a nearby kid who would bring more people out to games?
If we are knowingly recruiting kids "who will never see the court" let's just disband the program. Sheeesh...
I didn't say let's recruit kids who will never play. I said if we have two kids who won't make a major impact right away and have to be groomed- one local and one non-local; take the local kid for obvious reasons. But go ahead and keep pulling in scrubs from all over the US. That's working out great for our depth right now...
you keep repeating the same thought, just using different words. So I'll repeat myself. If we "keep pulling in scrubs from all over the U.S" let's just disband the program. Double sheesh.

We've got two kids from within 75 miles, both from Licking Co. Granted one is hurt, but the other is arguably our best player. My guess, and I emphasize guess, is if the exact same players came from, say Illinois, the difference in attendance would be in the neighborhood of 20 per game and that may be generous. Yes, Licking County is farther away, but it's also several times bigger than Hocking County, so the differences cancel each other out.


Were you around when Steve Bruning from Athens High School played for Ohio? I was. He was actually a decent reserve in the mid 80s. And it didn't affect attendance one way or the other. But slipping from 22 wins the first year he played to 14 his second certainly did.
Missing the point here bud. I said, and I'll repeat it for you because you seem to miss it:
Player A from nearby school
Player B from Florida
Both have equal impact on the program-
Take the local kid...
No, I wasn't around in the 80's so I don't know. What I do know is that the end of our bench right now- scrubs... so why not give a local talent a shot?
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BillyTheCat
2/21/2019 5:50 PM
brucecuth wrote:expand_more
Let me put this another way. If this young man was not a local product, and we offered him with his lack of DI offers, then this board would be up in arms at our recruiting strategy of going after a kid who has no other offers. Lets just be fair and consistent in how we view things.
Shouldn't there be some locality to recruitment? Hey, let's offer some guy from Florida who will never see the court vs offering the same roster spot to a nearby kid who would bring more people out to games?
If we are knowingly recruiting kids "who will never see the court" let's just disband the program. Sheeesh...
I didn't say let's recruit kids who will never play. I said if we have two kids who won't make a major impact right away and have to be groomed- one local and one non-local; take the local kid for obvious reasons. But go ahead and keep pulling in scrubs from all over the US. That's working out great for our depth right now...
you keep repeating the same thought, just using different words. So I'll repeat myself. If we "keep pulling in scrubs from all over the U.S" let's just disband the program. Double sheesh.

We've got two kids from within 75 miles, both from Licking Co. Granted one is hurt, but the other is arguably our best player. My guess, and I emphasize guess, is if the exact same players came from, say Illinois, the difference in attendance would be in the neighborhood of 20 per game and that may be generous. Yes, Licking County is farther away, but it's also several times bigger than Hocking County, so the differences cancel each other out.


Were you around when Steve Bruning from Athens High School played for Ohio? I was. He was actually a decent reserve in the mid 80s. And it didn't affect attendance one way or the other. But slipping from 22 wins the first year he played to 14 his second certainly did.
On the flip side of that, Danny Nee had great attendance because he had Rick Scarberry on the team. At least 2,000 came a night to see a Southern Ohio kid shoot from the corner. Ball State used to bring in extra seats when the Cats played there when we had a local player on our team. Why more programs do not do this just baffles me!
Last Edited: 2/21/2019 5:51:05 PM by BillyTheCat
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brucecuth
2/21/2019 7:02 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Let me put this another way. If this young man was not a local product, and we offered him with his lack of DI offers, then this board would be up in arms at our recruiting strategy of going after a kid who has no other offers. Lets just be fair and consistent in how we view things.
Shouldn't there be some locality to recruitment? Hey, let's offer some guy from Florida who will never see the court vs offering the same roster spot to a nearby kid who would bring more people out to games?
If we are knowingly recruiting kids "who will never see the court" let's just disband the program. Sheeesh...
I didn't say let's recruit kids who will never play. I said if we have two kids who won't make a major impact right away and have to be groomed- one local and one non-local; take the local kid for obvious reasons. But go ahead and keep pulling in scrubs from all over the US. That's working out great for our depth right now...
you keep repeating the same thought, just using different words. So I'll repeat myself. If we "keep pulling in scrubs from all over the U.S" let's just disband the program. Double sheesh.

We've got two kids from within 75 miles, both from Licking Co. Granted one is hurt, but the other is arguably our best player. My guess, and I emphasize guess, is if the exact same players came from, say Illinois, the difference in attendance would be in the neighborhood of 20 per game and that may be generous. Yes, Licking County is farther away, but it's also several times bigger than Hocking County, so the differences cancel each other out.


Were you around when Steve Bruning from Athens High School played for Ohio? I was. He was actually a decent reserve in the mid 80s. And it didn't affect attendance one way or the other. But slipping from 22 wins the first year he played to 14 his second certainly did.
On the flip side of that, Danny Nee had great attendance because he had Rick Scarberry on the team. At least 2,000 came a night to see a Southern Ohio kid shoot from the corner. Ball State used to bring in extra seats when the Cats played there when we had a local player on our team. Why more programs do not do this just baffles me!
Billy, with his tongue planted firmly in cheek, preach!
Last Edited: 2/21/2019 7:24:13 PM by brucecuth
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BillyTheCat
2/21/2019 7:09 PM
You think about this, Akron's President was probably dead on when ordering more instate kids be recruited. Just think of all the fans that will flock to the JAR to see the local kids.
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Buck.Cat
2/22/2019 12:10 PM
I'm kinda surprised this player is not a Bobcat commit or signee. Seems to be a Saul recruit to a T.
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UpSan Bobcat
2/22/2019 12:44 PM
All things equal, sure, recruit a local player over a non-local one. But it sounds like the consensus of 350+ Division I coaches that this kid isn't a Division I player. In fact, only two coaches believe in him enough to think he's a Division II player, and he's committed to an average Division II program.

Coaches are wrong all the time. There's a lot of Division II players who could play Division I, and there's lots of Division I players, including probably some on Ohio's team right now, that would be better off in Division II. This kid probably could be better than some of the guys on the team at this time.

But you can't throw a scholarship at a player who you don't think is quite on the Division I level just because he's local and then hope you're wrong. If coaches believe a player doesn't have Division I potential, they should not recruit him, local or not. He could be a nice candidate as a walk-on if he was interested but for most it makes sense to take a scholarship and go somewhere where you've got a better shot of succeeding.
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mid70sbobcat
2/22/2019 1:18 PM
DJCooperBurnerAccount wrote:expand_more
Let me put this another way. If this young man was not a local product, and we offered him with his lack of DI offers, then this board would be up in arms at our recruiting strategy of going after a kid who has no other offers. Lets just be fair and consistent in how we view things.
Shouldn't there be some locality to recruitment? Hey, let's offer some guy from Florida who will never see the court vs offering the same roster spot to a nearby kid who would bring more people out to games?
If we are knowingly recruiting kids "who will never see the court" let's just disband the program. Sheeesh...
I didn't say let's recruit kids who will never play. I said if we have two kids who won't make a major impact right away and have to be groomed- one local and one non-local; take the local kid for obvious reasons. But go ahead and keep pulling in scrubs from all over the US. That's working out great for our depth right now...
you keep repeating the same thought, just using different words. So I'll repeat myself. If we "keep pulling in scrubs from all over the U.S" let's just disband the program. Double sheesh.

We've got two kids from within 75 miles, both from Licking Co. Granted one is hurt, but the other is arguably our best player. My guess, and I emphasize guess, is if the exact same players came from, say Illinois, the difference in attendance would be in the neighborhood of 20 per game and that may be generous. Yes, Licking County is farther away, but it's also several times bigger than Hocking County, so the differences cancel each other out.


Were you around when Steve Bruning from Athens High School played for Ohio? I was. He was actually a decent reserve in the mid 80s. And it didn't affect attendance one way or the other. But slipping from 22 wins the first year he played to 14 his second certainly did.
Missing the point here bud. I said, and I'll repeat it for you because you seem to miss it:
Player A from nearby school
Player B from Florida
Both have equal impact on the program-
Take the local kid...
No, I wasn't around in the 80's so I don't know. What I do know is that the end of our bench right now- scrubs... so why not give a local talent a shot?
I don't think anyone folows your logic as there is none. So you want "local" scrubs rather than ones from further away. And as others have said if he ZERO D1 offers there is likely a reason.
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BillyTheCat
2/23/2019 9:29 PM
Bounced tonight in a first round sectional play in as the 12 seed. Beaten by the 28 seed.
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