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Recovering Journalist
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Posted: 4/25/2018 9:00 AM
A lot of change seems to be on the horizon.

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Posted: 4/25/2018 9:15 AM
These recommendations do not address the issues of whether or not college athletes could or should be compensated for the use of their likeness, etc.
The strongest point in the report is that "One and Done" should be Done, and they make it clear that the NBA and the NBA players union needs to get together and work together with the NCAA to come up with clear path forward for 18 year olds.
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Posted: 4/25/2018 11:02 AM
From my understanding of this: they huffed, they puffed, and blew at a brick house.
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Posted: 4/25/2018 11:29 AM
Its amazing the different takes on the same study.
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Posted: 4/25/2018 11:34 AM
It seems to me that the Rice Commission is just nibbling around the edges of college basketball problems, and is not really supplying solutions. The chances needed are more drastic. The most important change needed, IMHO, is strengthening the academic requirements for freshmen. As it is, as a freshman, a student-athlete does not really need to maintain an average that would but him or her on a realistic track for graduation, despite statement of the NCAA to the contrary. Upping the academic requirement for freshmen would separate those who really want an education from those who have the one-and-done mentality. If a player isn't eligible in the freshman year, but is committed to getting an education, he or she will spend that year working to improve grades and become eligible in the following year. If it's a one-and-mentality, the player won't enroll in the first place, and that would be good for college basketball.
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Posted: 4/25/2018 12:08 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
It seems to me that the Rice Commission is just nibbling around the edges of college basketball problems, and is not really supplying solutions. The chances needed are more drastic. The most important change needed, IMHO, is strengthening the academic requirements for freshmen. As it is, as a freshman, a student-athlete does not really need to maintain an average that would but him or her on a realistic track for graduation, despite statement of the NCAA to the contrary. Upping the academic requirement for freshmen would separate those who really want an education from those who have the one-and-done mentality. If a player isn't eligible in the freshman year, but is committed to getting an education, he or she will spend that year working to improve grades and become eligible in the following year. If it's a one-and-mentality, the player won't enroll in the first place, and that would be good for college basketball.
3 years ago, several conferences brought back and tossed around the idea of freshmen ineligibility.
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Posted: 4/25/2018 12:42 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Its amazing the different takes on the same study.
I wouldn't call it different takes but different approaches - the first was an opinion piece and the second was reporting.
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Posted: 4/25/2018 12:50 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Its amazing the different takes on the same study.
I wouldn't call it different takes but different approaches - the first was an opinion piece and the second was reporting.
Agreed - generally, Mike has analysis and opinion in his work. For college hoops fans, I think he's a must Twitter follow.
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Posted: 4/25/2018 1:08 PM
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3 years ago, several conferences brought back and tossed around the idea of freshmen ineligibility.
Personally,for a number of reasons,I'd like to see freshman ineligibility come back.

Given the number of "red shirts" in college sports,its becoming pretty much the norm to try,unless you have a real "stud", to red shirt freshmen.

You'd also kill the "one and done".

The only potential downside are a lot more potential Grad Transfers.
But that's another rule I'd like to see go away.
Last Edited: 4/25/2018 1:10:55 PM by rpbobcat
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Posted: 4/25/2018 4:05 PM
i know lots of UK fans who are more than fine with one and done so long as they their share of the 5 star recruits.

two of them are looking at spending $4k for them and spouse to go to Bahamas for 4 game exhibition series vs international pro teams. good lord....

i love the Bobcat Way where we get most everyone for four years.
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Posted: 4/25/2018 6:38 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Given the number of "red shirts" in college sports,its becoming pretty much the norm to try,unless you have a real "stud", to red shirt freshmen.
Do you have any statistical facts to back up this claim? If we're talking football I might tend to agree, but not basketball - but if you have statistics showing otherwise I'd love to see them. As in, over the last 5-10 years, what percentage of MAC basketball freshmen have been red shirted due to non-medical reasons? Again, I could be wrong but I have serious doubts it's "the norm". It certainly isn't for OU.
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Posted: 4/25/2018 7:57 PM
GraffZ06 wrote:expand_more
Given the number of "red shirts" in college sports,its becoming pretty much the norm to try,unless you have a real "stud", to red shirt freshmen.
Do you have any statistical facts to back up this claim? If we're talking football I might tend to agree, but not basketball - but if you have statistics showing otherwise I'd love to see them. As in, over the last 5-10 years, what percentage of MAC basketball freshmen have been red shirted due to non-medical reasons? Again, I could be wrong but I have serious doubts it's "the norm". It certainly isn't for OU.
I think you're right. There are very few basketball freshmen who redshirt unless for a medical reason. In football, however, especially on the mid-major level, there aren't very many true freshmen who play.
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