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OU_Country
5/18/2018 10:18 AM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Does anyone know if O.U. is still looking into building a new skating rink to replace Bird Arena?

I believe the idea was to build it next to or near Ping.

If that does happen, they could renovate Bird into a basketball practice facility.
I believe that is still in the plans. Your idea for renovating Bird, I think, is a good one!
Instead, they'll probably raze it, make it greenspace, and apply for funding for 3 separate projects instead of making it one project. Ahhh, the OU way.
The justification for a new Bird Arena near Ping was to save energy costs.

They never really explained that in any detail.

You'd have to save a lot of energy to make up for the cost of a new ice rink,especially given the soil conditions in the area near Ping.
Everything has to go on piles.
Just like there's never been much explanation why the practice facility project didn't come with additional things, such as improved restrooms and concessions attached to Peden, or the inclusion of basketball/volleyball/wrestling practice facilities. Same logic could be applied to the new academic center. Because doing it that way would have made sense.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in favor of both projects. It just seems likely to me that adding some of the other things I mentioned that need done to these two projects could have killed 4 birds with two stones, and less dollars in the long run. Maybe I'm assuming too much.
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OUcats82
5/18/2018 12:14 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Does anyone know if O.U. is still looking into building a new skating rink to replace Bird Arena?

I believe the idea was to build it next to or near Ping.

If that does happen, they could renovate Bird into a basketball practice facility.
I believe that is still in the plans. Your idea for renovating Bird, I think, is a good one!
Instead, they'll probably raze it, make it greenspace, and apply for funding for 3 separate projects instead of making it one project. Ahhh, the OU way.
The justification for a new Bird Arena near Ping was to save energy costs.

They never really explained that in any detail.

You'd have to save a lot of energy to make up for the cost of a new ice rink,especially given the soil conditions in the area near Ping.
Everything has to go on piles.
Never thought about the need for pilings but makes sense.

Would there need to be an even stronger base there for a facility housing an ice rink? Would the overall weight much more significant than the existing structures in Ping?
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rpbobcat
5/18/2018 1:29 PM
OUcats82 wrote:expand_more
Does anyone know if O.U. is still looking into building a new skating rink to replace Bird Arena?

I believe the idea was to build it next to or near Ping.

If that does happen, they could renovate Bird into a basketball practice facility.
I believe that is still in the plans. Your idea for renovating Bird, I think, is a good one!
Instead, they'll probably raze it, make it greenspace, and apply for funding for 3 separate projects instead of making it one project. Ahhh, the OU way.
The justification for a new Bird Arena near Ping was to save energy costs.

They never really explained that in any detail.

You'd have to save a lot of energy to make up for the cost of a new ice rink,especially given the soil conditions in the area near Ping.
Everything has to go on piles.
Never thought about the need for pilings but makes sense.

Would there need to be an even stronger base there for a facility housing an ice rink? Would the overall weight much more significant than the existing structures in Ping?
Ping was built on piles.
At least the main structure.

For some reason they didn't use piles, or extend the grade beams,for the outer walls.

Over time the underlying soil,which is primarily clay,settled.

That's why a couple of years ago they had to "shore up" Ping's outside walls.
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OhioCatFan
5/20/2018 12:13 AM
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The job to put the new seats into The Convo came with a 2.85 million price tag and the new scoreboard is another 1.98 million on top of that. What is going on with naming rights for the arena? Is a donor identified for the basketball practice facility? Big news could be around the corner.

https://www.ohio.edu/design-construction/projects/upload/...
The "for sale" sign for Convo/Peden naming rights is pretty old and faded at this point. They have been looking for five years and have either received no offers or, more likely, no compelling ones. If I were a potential sponsor of either building, I'm not sure I'd want to make any investment right now. College sports are changing quickly and unpredictably and those changes are not likely to result in more exposure for the Ohios of the world.
I heard Fred Johnson's family was gonna take another swing at naming rights.
I don't believe your rumor, but I know a person you should but likely will not.
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BillyTheCat
5/20/2018 6:39 AM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Does anyone know if O.U. is still looking into building a new skating rink to replace Bird Arena?

I believe the idea was to build it next to or near Ping.

If that does happen, they could renovate Bird into a basketball practice facility.
I believe that is still in the plans. Your idea for renovating Bird, I think, is a good one!
Instead, they'll probably raze it, make it greenspace, and apply for funding for 3 separate projects instead of making it one project. Ahhh, the OU way.
The justification for a new Bird Arena near Ping was to save energy costs.

They never really explained that in any detail.

You'd have to save a lot of energy to make up for the cost of a new ice rink,especially given the soil conditions in the area near Ping.
Everything has to go on piles.
Just like there's never been much explanation why the practice facility project didn't come with additional things, such as improved restrooms and concessions attached to Peden, or the inclusion of basketball/volleyball/wrestling practice facilities. Same logic could be applied to the new academic center. Because doing it that way would have made sense.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in favor of both projects. It just seems likely to me that adding some of the other things I mentioned that need done to these two projects could have killed 4 birds with two stones, and less dollars in the long run. Maybe I'm assuming too much.
Attaching the practice facility to Peden would interfere with the plans to expand Peden and would drive up the cost.
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FanInTheStands
12/31/2018 10:02 AM
I know we've talked about this on BA many times in the past but just wanted to share a casual observation I had recently.
Last week a friend and I were in the Dayton area and happened to be driving by Wright State University. My friend commented about how their basketball arena was all lit up with green and white outside lights and he stated that something "must be happening there" tonight. Obviously, there was...the men's team had a home basketball game that evening and made it known to everyone traveling in the area that something was indeed happening there.
I find it such a shame that we can't manage to improve our gameday lighting outside of The Convo. I would think it would be relatively easy to install some canned LED lighting either from the top of The Convo shining down or to mount it on "the forbidden" concrete slabs surrounding The Convo shining upward. At least those traveling in the area would have an idea that a game was happening and it would also provide some much needed lighting for those of us forced to walk the outer walkway of The Convo to the front entrance.
Rant over...for now anyway.
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OU_Country
12/31/2018 1:29 PM
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