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Posted: 3/25/2025 12:21 PM
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This won't be the last move of this nature, folks.

https://www.streetinsider.com/PRNewswire/Saint+Francis+Un...
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Posted: 3/25/2025 12:47 PM
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Interesting the Flash and Hartford both skipped D2 and went straight to D3; don't want to even pay for scholarships. There are plenty of D3 leagues in the East and Midwest, less so in the West and South.
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Posted: 3/25/2025 2:36 PM
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Makes too much sense. Either you're a university or you're an athletics mill masquerading as a university.
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Posted: 3/25/2025 3:00 PM
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Saint Francis will fit right into the PAC.
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Posted: 3/26/2025 6:42 PM
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Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Makes too much sense. Either you're a university or you're an athletics mill masquerading as a university.
Truer words were never spoken.
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Posted: 3/27/2025 7:33 AM
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https://pge.post-gazette.com/.pf/showstory/202503260051/3
St Francis community reacts to change.
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Posted: 3/27/2025 1:22 PM
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So if this is the same St Francis that we’re scheduled to play to open the football season in 2027, we’ll be looking for somebody else.
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Posted: 3/27/2025 2:41 PM
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So if this is the same St Francis that we’re scheduled to play to open the football season in 2027, we’ll be looking for somebody else.
I believe the team we have scheduled is St. Francis of New York. The one dropping to DIII is St. Francis of Pennsylvania.
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Posted: 3/27/2025 2:56 PM
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I just checked, it’s in Penn. according to the Future Football Schedule site. The one in NY dropped from D-1 in 2023.
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Posted: 3/27/2025 3:19 PM
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Well, now I'm thoroughly confused. There are just too many colleges named St Francis to keep 'em all straight. I do remember years ago that the one in Indiana and the one in New York had good basketball teams. I looked it up and there is even one in Hong Kong. I'm fairly certain that's not the one we scheduled in 2027.
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Posted: 3/29/2025 8:53 AM
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OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
So if this is the same St Francis that we’re scheduled to play to open the football season in 2027, we’ll be looking for somebody else.
I believe the team we have scheduled is St. Francis of New York. The one dropping to DIII is St. Francis of Pennsylvania.
Are you sure it wasn't St Francis of Assisi?

Boom. Catholic Humor.
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Posted: 3/29/2025 10:34 AM
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Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
So if this is the same St Francis that we’re scheduled to play to open the football season in 2027, we’ll be looking for somebody else.
I believe the team we have scheduled is St. Francis of New York. The one dropping to DIII is St. Francis of Pennsylvania.
Are you sure it wasn't St Francis of Assisi?

Boom. Catholic Humor.
I understand that the Assisi team plays like a bunch of animals!
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Posted: 3/29/2025 11:28 AM
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OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Well, now I'm thoroughly confused. There are just too many colleges named St Francis to keep 'em all straight. I do remember years ago that the one in Indiana and the one in New York had good basketball teams. I looked it up and there is even one in Hong Kong. I'm fairly certain that's not the one we scheduled in 2027.
There should be a conference of only St. Francis and Loyola teams.
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Posted: 3/29/2025 4:12 PM
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this decision was all about money. no way does moving to a smaller class and not giving scholarships to athletes help a school. and this comes just after an ncaa appearance. the smart money says a lot fewer people will wanna enroll there. the end result may likely be the school will go broke. its bullshit that a D1 school cant be a good academic school. schools like duke,stanford, northwestern, prin ceton, and ohio university manage to be D! and be solid academic schools providing quality education. going back to D3 will only hurt Stfrancis in the long run. there will be less money in,less oppurtunity, less public awareness and fewer resources.
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Posted: 3/31/2025 11:27 AM
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Should a school with 1600 undergraduates be Division I to begin with?
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Posted: 3/31/2025 2:35 PM
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Should a school with 1600 undergraduates be Division I to begin with?
The smallest I could find was Presbyterian at about 1000. Any others ? Davidson, Wofford and Wagner are all less than 2000.
Last Edited: 3/31/2025 2:41:44 PM by colobobcat66
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Posted: 3/31/2025 5:28 PM
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VMI is something like 1600, too.
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Posted: 3/31/2025 5:56 PM
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colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Should a school with 1600 undergraduates be Division I to begin with?
The smallest I could find was Presbyterian at about 1000. Any others ? Davidson, Wofford and Wagner are all less than 2000.
University of Tulsa is an FBS program in the AAC with less than 3000 undergrads.
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Posted: 4/1/2025 11:26 AM
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Davidson College has an enrollment of 1,973. I remember when they were all male the called themselves "a thousand gentlemen." Then they went co-ed and became, "two thousand people." Doesn't quite have the ring to it.
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