menu
Logo
99+
Bobcat Attack Menu
Logo
99+
Ohio Basketball Topic
Topic: Arkley Saul Apologist Column
Page: 5 of 5
mail
person
Recovering Journalist
3/21/2019 7:03 PM
The column is still proudly (obstinately) pinned to the top of his Twitter page... But I guess that's understandable since not much has happened in either the men's or women's program in the last week.
mail
FearLeon
3/21/2019 10:00 PM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
The column is still proudly (obstinately) pinned to the top of his Twitter page... But I guess that's understandable since not much has happened in either the men's or women's program in the last week.
Embarrassing that our beat writer still has this pinned as his lead column on twitter. He'd be better off pinning Pete Nakos column/article instead. That paints a much better picture of the Saul era and what led to his demise. Time to move on Jason and look forward to a new era of Ohio basketball.
Last Edited: 3/22/2019 9:07:05 AM by FearLeon
mail
person
catfan28
3/22/2019 9:31 AM
The only thing I thought was out of bounds/over the top was the bit about "everyone but the players". No one at our level is making money, and it's intellectually dishonest to act as though there is a pot of cash that could/should be going to the players.
mail
OU_Country
3/22/2019 6:23 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
The column is still proudly (obstinately) pinned to the top of his Twitter page... But I guess that's understandable since not much has happened in either the men's or women's program in the last week.
Embarrassing that our beat writer still has this pinned as his lead column on twitter. He'd be better off pinning Pete Nakos column/article instead. That paints a much better picture of the Saul era and what led to his demise. Time to move on Jason and look forward to a new era of Ohio basketball.
I don't get the take that it's "embarrassing"? Why do you worry so much about what he pinned to the top of his time line?
mail
FearLeon
3/22/2019 6:58 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
The column is still proudly (obstinately) pinned to the top of his Twitter page... But I guess that's understandable since not much has happened in either the men's or women's program in the last week.
Embarrassing that our beat writer still has this pinned as his lead column on twitter. He'd be better off pinning Pete Nakos column/article instead. That paints a much better picture of the Saul era and what led to his demise. Time to move on Jason and look forward to a new era of Ohio basketball.
I don't get the take that it's "embarrassing"? Why do you worry so much about what he pinned to the top of his time line?
Jeff Boals is now the new head coach at Ohio. It's time for Arkley to get over it and show some respect. If he gets into this "pinning" thing and clearly he does...then why not pin an opinion column on what he truly believes Boals brings to the program? Start promoting the new regime. Why would he want people to see the Saul tribute as the first thing people see on his page? Time to move on Jason...time to move on.
Last Edited: 3/22/2019 6:59:34 PM by FearLeon
mail
GraffZ06
3/22/2019 7:07 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
I don't get the take that it's "embarrassing"? Why do you worry so much about what he pinned to the top of his time line?
It's embarrassing because his daddy is no longer employed at the University which he is the beat writer. It was bad enough (IMO) he wrote the article how he did, but then to keep it pinned - yikes. People generally pin articles they think are the most "important" or the most "pertinent" so that everyone sees it. So Arkley thinks crying about a former employee is more important and pertinent than actually covering the current coach/team/players. IF he's going to pin anything it should be the glowing article he wrote about the excitement for the future of OU basketball following bringing Coach Boals home (oh wait - he didn't write that did he? hmmm...)

He was so wrapped up emotionally in Saul - and he doesn't even attempt to hide it anymore - that he was neither objective in his reporting while he was still here, nor, some fear, will he be able to be objective in the future for the new regime because he's still mad they're even here.

It's the equivalent of a Browns beat writer pining for Hue Jackson and pinning that article even after the hiring of Kitchens and their off-season. The team you are covering has moved on. He should too.

It's why I said it's time to get on the Boals Bus. What's done is done. Saul and family will be just fine. They've moved on I'm sure. Jason should take a page from his daddy and do the same.
mail
person
brucecuth
3/22/2019 7:45 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
The column is still proudly (obstinately) pinned to the top of his Twitter page... But I guess that's understandable since not much has happened in either the men's or women's program in the last week.
Embarrassing that our beat writer still has this pinned as his lead column on twitter. He'd be better off pinning Pete Nakos column/article instead. That paints a much better picture of the Saul era and what led to his demise. Time to move on Jason and look forward to a new era of Ohio basketball.
I don't get the take that it's "embarrassing"? Why do you worry so much about what he pinned to the top of his time line?
Jeff Boals is now the new head coach at Ohio. It's time for Arkley to get over it and show some respect. If he gets into this "pinning" thing and clearly he does...then why not pin an opinion column on what he truly believes Boals brings to the program? Start promoting the new regime. Why would he want people to see the Saul tribute as the first thing people see on his page? Time to move on Jason...time to move on.

I AM NOT a fan of Arkley. I disagree with a lot of what he has written. But it is NOT the job of a journalist to "start promoting the new regime." If someone thinks it is, do a web search about what happened when an award-winning journalist in Illinois was told earlier this month that his access to the Bradley basketball team was being curtailed because he wasn't doing enough to "promote" the team.

Let me make my opinion unmistakably clear. Large market or small. Big time team or MAC team. An independent journalist is NOT in the business of "promoting" anything or anybody. If he or she writes a positive or negative OPINION piece, then fine, that's the whole point of an OPINION piece.

Arkley can damn well pin anything he wants in his twitter feed. And anyone is free to criticize him for doing so. But any duty to "promote the new regime" should be relegated to the Sports Information Department. That's the department's job. Any journalist who feels he must "promote" anything or anybody is no longer a journalist, and no longer anyone whose words can be trusted.

Finally, when did Arkley become "our" beat writer, 'cuz he sure as hell ain't mine!

I write this as a proud graduate of the Ohio University School of Journalism with 40 years experience in broadcast journalism, print journalism and public relations.
Last Edited: 3/22/2019 7:46:17 PM by brucecuth
mail
person
Jeff McKinney
3/22/2019 7:47 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
The column is still proudly (obstinately) pinned to the top of his Twitter page... But I guess that's understandable since not much has happened in either the men's or women's program in the last week.
Embarrassing that our beat writer still has this pinned as his lead column on twitter. He'd be better off pinning Pete Nakos column/article instead. That paints a much better picture of the Saul era and what led to his demise. Time to move on Jason and look forward to a new era of Ohio basketball.
I don't get the take that it's "embarrassing"? Why do you worry so much about what he pinned to the top of his time line?
Jeff Boals is now the new head coach at Ohio. It's time for Arkley to get over it and show some respect. If he gets into this "pinning" thing and clearly he does...then why not pin an opinion column on what he truly believes Boals brings to the program? Start promoting the new regime. Why would he want people to see the Saul tribute as the first thing people see on his page? Time to move on Jason...time to move on.
"Promoting"?? I thought lack of objectivity was your main gripe with Arkley and that you thought he was promoting Saul? If hes supposed to become more objective as a reporter, why should he be "promoting" Boals?
mail
GraffZ06
3/22/2019 8:08 PM
brucecuth wrote:expand_more
I AM NOT a fan of Arkley. I disagree with a lot of what he has written. But it is NOT the job of a journalist to "start promoting the new regime." If someone thinks it is, do a web search about what happened when an award-winning journalist in Illinois was told earlier this month that his access to the Bradley basketball team was being curtailed because he wasn't doing enough to "promote" the team.

Let me make my opinion unmistakably clear. Large market or small. Big time team or MAC team. An independent journalist is NOT in the business of "promoting" anything or anybody. If he or she writes a positive or negative OPINION piece, then fine, that's the whole point of an OPINION piece.

Arkley can damn well pin anything he wants in his twitter feed. And anyone is free to criticize him for doing so. But any duty to "promote the new regime" should be relegated to the Sports Information Department. That's the department's job. Any journalist who feels he must "promote" anything or anybody is no longer a journalist, and no longer anyone whose words can be trusted.

Finally, when did Arkley become "our" beat writer, 'cuz he sure as hell ain't mine!

I write this as a proud graduate of the Ohio University School of Journalism with 40 years experience in broadcast journalism, print journalism and public relations.
Agreed it's not his job to "promote" the new regime. It's his job to cover it. Report it. Tell us about it. Maybe even reflect the newfound excitement the department and fans feel (even if he or others personally don't). He should be giving unbiased reports about the Ohio Bobcats.

Guess what - Saul Phillips isn't a part of the Ohio Bobcats anymore. Jeff Boals is. So why the heck is that article pinned? Again, it would be like a Browns writer pinning his emotional farewell to Hue Jackson. He's free to write whatever opinion article he wants - and I'm free to rip him for it. But, pinning an article about Saul instead of the actual team he's paid to cover is no beuno. Might as well start pinning articles about cooking - it has as much relevance to the current Ohio Bobcats basketball team he's actually paid to cover.

But, to be fair, we all know EXACTLY why that's his pinned article. He's the beat writer of the Ohio Bobcats not Saul Phillips.
mail
FearLeon
3/22/2019 9:03 PM
Fair enough...”promote” was not the right word choice and I know that’s not the job of a beat writer. My point is why not pin the the story of the day Boals was introduced at the presser? Why keep up the Saul column? It serves zero purpose now that Boals has officially taken over.
mail
person
mid70sbobcat
3/22/2019 9:26 PM
GraffZ06 wrote:expand_more
I don't get the take that it's "embarrassing"? Why do you worry so much about what he pinned to the top of his time line?
It's embarrassing because his daddy is no longer employed at the University which he is the beat writer. It was bad enough (IMO) he wrote the article how he did, but then to keep it pinned - yikes. People generally pin articles they think are the most "important" or the most "pertinent" so that everyone sees it. So Arkley thinks crying about a former employee is more important and pertinent than actually covering the current coach/team/players. IF he's going to pin anything it should be the glowing article he wrote about the excitement for the future of OU basketball following bringing Coach Boals home (oh wait - he didn't write that did he? hmmm...)

He was so wrapped up emotionally in Saul - and he doesn't even attempt to hide it anymore - that he was neither objective in his reporting while he was still here, nor, some fear, will he be able to be objective in the future for the new regime because he's still mad they're even here.

It's the equivalent of a Browns beat writer pining for Hue Jackson and pinning that article even after the hiring of Kitchens and their off-season. The team you are covering has moved on. He should too.

It's why I said it's time to get on the Boals Bus. What's done is done. Saul and family will be just fine. They've moved on I'm sure. Jason should take a page from his daddy and do the same.
And who was/is closer to the Ohio basketball program? You or Arkley? No reply required.
mail
person
mid70sbobcat
3/22/2019 9:29 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
The column is still proudly (obstinately) pinned to the top of his Twitter page... But I guess that's understandable since not much has happened in either the men's or women's program in the last week.
Embarrassing that our beat writer still has this pinned as his lead column on twitter. He'd be better off pinning Pete Nakos column/article instead. That paints a much better picture of the Saul era and what led to his demise. Time to move on Jason and look forward to a new era of Ohio basketball.
I don't get the take that it's "embarrassing"? Why do you worry so much about what he pinned to the top of his time line?
Jeff Boals is now the new head coach at Ohio. It's time for Arkley to get over it and show some respect. If he gets into this "pinning" thing and clearly he does...then why not pin an opinion column on what he truly believes Boals brings to the program? Start promoting the new regime. Why would he want people to see the Saul tribute as the first thing people see on his page? Time to move on Jason...time to move on.
So he should be rah-rah about Boals when he's barely been on campus? Sorry, but a journalist should be objective and factual IMO and write columns as he has data/info to be objective.
Last Edited: 3/22/2019 9:29:54 PM by mid70sbobcat
mail
FearLeon
3/22/2019 9:48 PM
mid70sbobcat wrote:expand_more
The column is still proudly (obstinately) pinned to the top of his Twitter page... But I guess that's understandable since not much has happened in either the men's or women's program in the last week.
Embarrassing that our beat writer still has this pinned as his lead column on twitter. He'd be better off pinning Pete Nakos column/article instead. That paints a much better picture of the Saul era and what led to his demise. Time to move on Jason and look forward to a new era of Ohio basketball.
I don't get the take that it's "embarrassing"? Why do you worry so much about what he pinned to the top of his time line?
Jeff Boals is now the new head coach at Ohio. It's time for Arkley to get over it and show some respect. If he gets into this "pinning" thing and clearly he does...then why not pin an opinion column on what he truly believes Boals brings to the program? Start promoting the new regime. Why would he want people to see the Saul tribute as the first thing people see on his page? Time to move on Jason...time to move on.
So he should be rah-rah about Boals when he's barely been on campus? Sorry, but a journalist should be objective and factual IMO and write columns as he has data/info to be objective.
Ha...funny...because Jason left out a ton of facts when he wrote his farewell to Saul column...#recruiting would be one of them.
mail
person
Mark Lembright '85
3/22/2019 9:58 PM
This thread exemplifies what’s wrong with social media. Why are you people obsessing about what some guy pinned to his twitter account? Complaining about ‘pinning” comes off like a jilted teenager. Sheesh who gives a s***? Embarrassing??? I could care less what someone whom I never have nor ever will meet and lives far away from me “pins” to his twitter feed and the last thing I am is embarrassed. Goodness people-March Madness is on, enjoy that instead!!!

Oh, and go Iowa State!!!
Last Edited: 3/22/2019 9:59:35 PM by Mark Lembright '85
mail
person
Recovering Journalist
3/22/2019 11:25 PM
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:expand_more
This thread exemplifies what’s wrong with social media. Why are you people obsessing about what some guy pinned to his twitter account? Complaining about ‘pinning” comes off like a jilted teenager. Sheesh who gives a s***? Embarrassing??? I could care less what someone whom I never have nor ever will meet and lives far away from me “pins” to his twitter feed and the last thing I am is embarrassed. Goodness people-March Madness is on, enjoy that instead!!!

Oh, and go Iowa State!!!
I don't obsess over it. I respect Arkley's work enough to look on Twitter because he posts a lot of useful and interesting info on Bobcat athletics. He can do what he wants with it, but being greeted by his more-than-a-week-old grudge when I visited today struck me as petty. In the time since he wrote that, the men's team hired a coach, the women's team got jilted by the NCAA, and the women's team won a WNIT game. If anyone is looking like a jilted teenager, it's Arkley.
Last Edited: 3/22/2019 11:26:38 PM by Recovering Journalist
mail
person
GroverBall
3/23/2019 12:00 AM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
This thread exemplifies what’s wrong with social media. Why are you people obsessing about what some guy pinned to his twitter account? Complaining about ‘pinning” comes off like a jilted teenager. Sheesh who gives a s***? Embarrassing??? I could care less what someone whom I never have nor ever will meet and lives far away from me “pins” to his twitter feed and the last thing I am is embarrassed. Goodness people-March Madness is on, enjoy that instead!!!

Oh, and go Iowa State!!!
I don't obsess over it. I respect Arkley's work enough to look on Twitter because he posts a lot of useful and interesting info on Bobcat athletics. He can do what he wants with it, but being greeted by his more-than-a-week-old grudge when I visited today struck me as petty. In the time since he wrote that, the men's team hired a coach, the women's team got jilted by the NCAA, and the women's team won a WNIT game. If anyone is looking like a jilted teenager, it's Arkley.
It's mind-boggling to me that people are obsessed with the social media accounts of an Athens Messsenger sports writer. Really? Move on people, I hope your lives are more important.
mail
GraffZ06
3/23/2019 12:04 AM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
This thread exemplifies what’s wrong with social media. Why are you people obsessing about what some guy pinned to his twitter account? Complaining about ‘pinning” comes off like a jilted teenager. Sheesh who gives a s***? Embarrassing??? I could care less what someone whom I never have nor ever will meet and lives far away from me “pins” to his twitter feed and the last thing I am is embarrassed. Goodness people-March Madness is on, enjoy that instead!!!

Oh, and go Iowa State!!!
I don't obsess over it. I respect Arkley's work enough to look on Twitter because he posts a lot of useful and interesting info on Bobcat athletics. He can do what he wants with it, but being greeted by his more-than-a-week-old grudge when I visited today struck me as petty. In the time since he wrote that, the men's team hired a coach, the women's team got jilted by the NCAA, and the women's team won a WNIT game. If anyone is looking like a jilted teenager, it's Arkley.
Bingo.

Lots of important and more relevant things to cover and "feature" than what he's choosing.

Again, because of his actions, it makes it feel like he was a Saul fan first and foremost (perfectly fine, I liked him too, but don't let that show in your reporting or HOW you report things) and now he has an axe to grind against the University and new regime, which he's supposed to cover impartially, just because he's got hurt feelings. The mature thing to do would be to say your piece and move on to cover the more pressing news of the day.

It is what it is - but after this whole period I know in the future to take anything Jason says with a big scoop of bias, salt and emotion.
Showing Messages: 101 - 117 of 117
reply
vertical_align_top
vertical_align_center
vertical_align_bottom
add_comment
chevron_backward
MAC News Links



extra small (< 576px)
small (>= 576px)
medium (>= 768px)
large (>= 992px)
x-large (>= 1200px)
xx-large (>= 1400px)