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FearLeon
4/4/2019 5:58 AM
DJCooperBurnerAccount wrote:expand_more
Hard to believe he’s going to stay division 1. Dude disappeared and looked like he was afraid to shoot the ball. Those saying he was solid, what did he do? I remember exactly zero times Cowart doing anything positive. He wasn’t bad... he just didn’t do anything
I remember being told this guy was a defensive wizard. And in his last game as a Bobcat, Eugene German dumped 18 points on his head in the first half of Ohio's MAC Tournament loss in Dekalb. I can't remember one thing this guy did that stood out all year.

The whole roster is being shredded and I have zero problem with it.
Last Edited: 4/4/2019 6:01:33 AM by FearLeon
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bobcatsquared
4/4/2019 6:25 AM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Cowart was solid, I wish he would have stayed. Boals should probably take some grad transfers to hold down the fort and use most of the scholarships on a higher talent pool next year.
I’m sure Coach Boals will be calling you for recommendations
Boals will have to get in line. I think Coach Solich is also considering adding allen to his staff as are several scouting departments of NFL teams.
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Deciduous Forest Cat
4/4/2019 8:38 AM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
Hard to believe he’s going to stay division 1. Dude disappeared and looked like he was afraid to shoot the ball. Those saying he was solid, what did he do? I remember exactly zero times Cowart doing anything positive. He wasn’t bad... he just didn’t do anything
I remember being told this guy was a defensive wizard. And in his last game as a Bobcat, Eugene German dumped 18 points on his head in the first half of Ohio's MAC Tournament loss in Dekalb. I can't remember one thing this guy did that stood out all year.

The whole roster is being shredded and I have zero problem with it.
And then German did the same to Toledo a couple days later. German did that to people. He was chucking from all over the floor and burying them in the first half. It happens. Again, I don't remember the most recent shutout in Division 1 college basketball.
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UpSan Bobcat
4/4/2019 8:58 AM
Ohio's players obviously had deficiencies. That's why the record was below .500. But guys like Kirk and Cowart offered positives. That's why Ohio was able to win sometimes. They could be useful players on winning teams but they were asked to do more than what was ideal for them.

I realize there probably isn't enough time for those guys to make drastic improvements. There also likely isn't enough time to bring in enough talent around them for them to play more appropriate roles. That's probably part of why they are leaving. I'd still rather have them around because without them, we're probably going to just be putting new guys into spots they're not really ready for, and that's going to lead to a lot more losing. I don't mind lots of losing in a rebuilding situation but potential recruits might. I think at this point it could be hard to bring in enough talent for this year to win even 10 games. I just hope that isn't a further detriment for the future.
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FearLeon
4/4/2019 9:08 AM
UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
I think at this point it could be hard to bring in enough talent for this year to win even 10 games. I just hope that isn't a further detriment for the future.
But what did you expect to happen this offseason and in Boals first year as coach? Next year is not going to be pretty in the win column. However, by the end of Boals second full recruiting class we are going to see a roster full of Division-One talent...something that has been lacking in this program for five years. Boals is cleaning up a huge mess and this is going to take two years for him to get his players to fit his system. As I've said before, we can't really judge Boals until year 3. He is facing one of the most difficult rebuilding jobs in Division-One hoops.
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cbus cat fan
4/4/2019 9:39 AM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
I think at this point it could be hard to bring in enough talent for this year to win even 10 games. I just hope that isn't a further detriment for the future.
But what did you expect to happen this offseason and in Boals first year as coach? Next year is not going to be pretty in the win column. However, by the end of Boals second full recruiting class we are going to see a roster full of Division-One talent...something that has been lacking in this program for five years. Boals is cleaning up a huge mess and this is going to take two years for him to get his players to fit his system. As I've said before, we can't really judge Boals until year 3. He is facing one of the most difficult rebuilding jobs in Division-One hoops.
Exactly, and yet we had more than a few people who were for staying the course which would akin to the crew of the Titanic saying, "nothing but a few icebergs ahead." We heard stories about how every player and their parents loved the previous coaching staff. I have no doubt that this is true and we might all say that Coach Phillips was a nicer guy than Coach Christian and even Coach Nee. However, sometimes leaders aren't always nice. I have heard stories that the staff at 10 Downing Street thought Neville Chamberlain was nicer than Winston Churchill. In a perfect world all successful leaders would be nice, but we live in a fallen world and perfection awaits us in heaven.

Again, as I stated before I was heckuva lot nicer to my players when I was coaching than my coaches were to me. However, sometimes you have to raise your voice and show displeasure. You might have to tell players that they are not measuring up. I can't begin to tell you the feeling you get when you don't think you can accomplish something and a coach helps you believe you can (although not always in the nicest way.) Human nature being what it is, far too many people want to coast in life. Hopefully, those players who want to put their talents and abilities on cruise control are getting the message that those days are in the past.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
4/4/2019 9:54 AM
I don't know what Boals is going to target even though I've thrown a few of my predictions out there given his past. If this kid is out, he's out. So be it. I mean not to sound like a prick, but this team went below .500 and was pretty obvious the talent wasn't there across the board, whether injured, young, or just not sufficient.

What I can predict though is that this next season is going to have some very difficult pills for us as a fanbase to swallow. You don't go about losing half your roster unofficially (until Kirk and Co. pull their names out of the portal and return, I'm assuming they're gone) and expect to win games quickly. Not only that, our coach has a 30 day window to successfully recruit six players and how he goes about that is going to be a challenge. Maybe Boals eats a scholarship or two to get the classes to balance out in the long-run.

That said, this presents a great opportunity for Boals to come in and have the opportunity to establish what he wants culture and talent wise, as he will have scholarships to work with. Whether he has all 6 scholarships ready to be utilized come May 1 remains to be seen, but the bottomline is his kids will have more impact quickly which in the long run should pay dividends. How big will depend on the kids he brings in.

On another note, I am not going to rush to judging his recruiting that quickly for this recruiting class. I will wait until recruiting years 2 and 3 to make that decision, as I have said it takes 6 years to get what you want.
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shabamon
4/4/2019 9:57 AM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
What I can predict though is that this next season is going to have some very difficult pills for us as a fanbase to swallow.
I've already accepted the likelihood that Purdue will blow us out by 40+ in our own building.
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OU_Country
4/4/2019 11:22 AM
Bobcat1998 wrote:expand_more
I wasn’t “happy” with our results this season but it’s absurd to suggest the team lacked any talent whatsoever. Winning 14 games in D-1 isn’t nothing and at times they were competitive with some pretty good programs. I’m sure the guys transferring will have options at the D-1 level. There are a lot of teams who won less games than we did.

It does speak to the potential and expectations of this program that a slightly below 500 season is considered disasterous. At many other MAC programs, that’s a regular occurrence every so often. Doesn’t happen often in Athens
Cowart was awful. Indicative of Saul era. No impact whatsoever. Have a nice career Antonio who is Rodney Culver Lite
My, my, my.......Dr. Hyperbole strikes again.
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MonroeClassmate
4/4/2019 11:25 AM
Chicken George wrote:expand_more
As I've said a few times, tear this thing down and start from scratch. We finished dead last in the MAC East with all of these guys who are on their way out. My big question is where in the hell does Cowart think he can actually go to play at another D-One school?

Two weeks left in signing period. I can't imagine that Coach Boals and staff will be getting much sleep between now and then.
He received about 17 Div I offers. I'd think at least a couple of those might still be interested. He played excellent defense for us, I hate to see him leave.
I agree. I remember Saul often praised his defense. His offense, not so much.
I’m sorry, let me repeat the question—-how many minutes per game do you think Mr. Cowart would contribute to a MAC Championship team? And remember, he started for us.
Say there chicken: how many minutes would any MAC non-Buffalo player have played on the Buffalo team this past season? MyAnswer: only slightly more minutes than Dartis contributed to the Bobcats this past season. Only the all-MAC first teamers may have received minutes.

Now, think about it, if one of Buffalo's players was lost for extended time and Cowart was the only answer, would Buffalo still have been MAC champs? MyAnswer: Likely nothing would have changed. Buffalo has the horses to enjoy a defensive specialist but not so much on an Ohio team that had little offensive firepower.
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OU_Country
4/4/2019 11:25 AM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
On another note, I am not going to rush to judging his recruiting that quickly for this recruiting class. I will wait until recruiting years 2 and 3 to make that decision, as I have said it takes 6 years to get what you want.
Based on recent history, 50+% of this crowd won't give Boals 3 years to get what he wants, much less six.
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OU_Country
4/4/2019 11:32 AM
Serious question, if someone knows: What approximate percentage of players return to their school after dipping their toes in the Transfer Portal waters? I ask because it's theoretically possible that happens at Ohio this year, right?


(note - I wouldn't do it, because I perceive that it would be like getting back together with an ex - there will always be questions and issues)
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Jeff McKinney
4/4/2019 11:39 AM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
I wasn’t “happy” with our results this season but it’s absurd to suggest the team lacked any talent whatsoever. Winning 14 games in D-1 isn’t nothing and at times they were competitive with some pretty good programs. I’m sure the guys transferring will have options at the D-1 level. There are a lot of teams who won less games than we did.

It does speak to the potential and expectations of this program that a slightly below 500 season is considered disasterous. At many other MAC programs, that’s a regular occurrence every so often. Doesn’t happen often in Athens
Cowart was awful. Indicative of Saul era. No impact whatsoever. Have a nice career Antonio who is Rodney Culver Lite
My, my, my.......Dr. Hyperbole strikes again.
Dr. Hyperbole....awesome.
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Jeff McKinney
4/4/2019 11:44 AM
This situation reminds me somewhat of what Coach Groce faced at Akron with his first recruiting class. His approach was to bring in enough transfers to hold down the fort in his first season. That approach bought some wins but it also led to Groce having to clean house a couple of times.

Guess I'm more optimistic than many on here about the prospects for the first season. I'm basing that on the new staff's recruiting connections and the sense of urgency Coach Boals has.
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OU_Country
4/4/2019 11:48 AM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
As I've said a few times, tear this thing down and start from scratch. We finished dead last in the MAC East with all of these guys who are on their way out. My big question is where in the hell does Cowart think he can actually go to play at another D-One school?

Two weeks left in signing period. I can't imagine that Coach Boals and staff will be getting much sleep between now and then.
He received about 17 Div I offers. I'd think at least a couple of those might still be interested. He played excellent defense for us, I hate to see him leave.
To save the time looking it up, there are a lot of offers there: http://verbalcommits.com/players/antonio-cowart-jr

I think he'd be a decent guy to keep around if he's allowed to play to his strengths.
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BillyTheCat
4/4/2019 12:11 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
As I've said a few times, tear this thing down and start from scratch. We finished dead last in the MAC East with all of these guys who are on their way out. My big question is where in the hell does Cowart think he can actually go to play at another D-One school?

Two weeks left in signing period. I can't imagine that Coach Boals and staff will be getting much sleep between now and then.
He received about 17 Div I offers. I'd think at least a couple of those might still be interested. He played excellent defense for us, I hate to see him leave.
To save the time looking it up, there are a lot of offers there: http://verbalcommits.com/players/antonio-cowart-jr

I think he'd be a decent guy to keep around if he's allowed to play to his strengths.
And lets get serious about the fact that very few of those offers excite anyone.
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OU_Country
4/4/2019 12:46 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
As I've said a few times, tear this thing down and start from scratch. We finished dead last in the MAC East with all of these guys who are on their way out. My big question is where in the hell does Cowart think he can actually go to play at another D-One school?

Two weeks left in signing period. I can't imagine that Coach Boals and staff will be getting much sleep between now and then.
He received about 17 Div I offers. I'd think at least a couple of those might still be interested. He played excellent defense for us, I hate to see him leave.
To save the time looking it up, there are a lot of offers there: http://verbalcommits.com/players/antonio-cowart-jr

I think he'd be a decent guy to keep around if he's allowed to play to his strengths.
And lets get serious about the fact that very few of those offers excite anyone.
They may not, but it points to the fact that he's got enough talent that he can contribute in D1. I think he'd be fine at Ohio as the guy off the bench giving defensive focus and energy. Of course the flip side is that we have no idea what his role would look like under the new staff.
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BillyTheCat
4/4/2019 1:32 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
As I've said a few times, tear this thing down and start from scratch. We finished dead last in the MAC East with all of these guys who are on their way out. My big question is where in the hell does Cowart think he can actually go to play at another D-One school?

Two weeks left in signing period. I can't imagine that Coach Boals and staff will be getting much sleep between now and then.
He received about 17 Div I offers. I'd think at least a couple of those might still be interested. He played excellent defense for us, I hate to see him leave.
To save the time looking it up, there are a lot of offers there: http://verbalcommits.com/players/antonio-cowart-jr

I think he'd be a decent guy to keep around if he's allowed to play to his strengths.
And lets get serious about the fact that very few of those offers excite anyone.
They may not, but it points to the fact that he's got enough talent that he can contribute in D1. I think he'd be fine at Ohio as the guy off the bench giving defensive focus and energy. Of course the flip side is that we have no idea what his role would look like under the new staff.
But then you assume that is what he wants? be a guy off the bench, giving defense and energy? When guys transfer, many times is because they are not achieving success or being as successful as they think "they should be". Or utilized in the manner they feel they should be. Most all believe the grass is always greener, and the next school will be what showcases their talent.
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Bobcat1998
4/4/2019 2:40 PM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
I wasn’t “happy” with our results this season but it’s absurd to suggest the team lacked any talent whatsoever. Winning 14 games in D-1 isn’t nothing and at times they were competitive with some pretty good programs. I’m sure the guys transferring will have options at the D-1 level. There are a lot of teams who won less games than we did.

It does speak to the potential and expectations of this program that a slightly below 500 season is considered disasterous. At many other MAC programs, that’s a regular occurrence every so often. Doesn’t happen often in Athens
Cowart was awful. Indicative of Saul era. No impact whatsoever. Have a nice career Antonio who is Rodney Culver Lite
My, my, my.......Dr. Hyperbole strikes again.
Dr. Hyperbole....awesome.
I actually don't have my PH.D in hyperbole yet. I am working towards it but can't get past the dissection test.
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FearLeon
4/4/2019 2:49 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
On another note, I am not going to rush to judging his recruiting that quickly for this recruiting class. I will wait until recruiting years 2 and 3 to make that decision, as I have said it takes 6 years to get what you want.
Based on recent history, 50+% of this crowd won't give Boals 3 years to get what he wants, much less six.
I am definitely going to be patient here. It's a mess that he inherited and we all know it.
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Kevin Finnegan
4/4/2019 2:57 PM
I think it'll be less about whether he gets three years to prove his chops with the on-the-court product and more on what his recruiting looks like three years in.
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greencat
4/4/2019 3:17 PM
There are really good Juco players out there...check out where some of these guys are headed next...

https://www.jucorecruiting.com/2019-juco-basketball-top-1...
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OU_Country
4/4/2019 3:25 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
As I've said a few times, tear this thing down and start from scratch. We finished dead last in the MAC East with all of these guys who are on their way out. My big question is where in the hell does Cowart think he can actually go to play at another D-One school?

Two weeks left in signing period. I can't imagine that Coach Boals and staff will be getting much sleep between now and then.
He received about 17 Div I offers. I'd think at least a couple of those might still be interested. He played excellent defense for us, I hate to see him leave.
To save the time looking it up, there are a lot of offers there: http://verbalcommits.com/players/antonio-cowart-jr

I think he'd be a decent guy to keep around if he's allowed to play to his strengths.
And lets get serious about the fact that very few of those offers excite anyone.
They may not, but it points to the fact that he's got enough talent that he can contribute in D1. I think he'd be fine at Ohio as the guy off the bench giving defensive focus and energy. Of course the flip side is that we have no idea what his role would look like under the new staff.
But then you assume that is what he wants? be a guy off the bench, giving defense and energy? When guys transfer, many times is because they are not achieving success or being as successful as they think "they should be". Or utilized in the manner they feel they should be. Most all believe the grass is always greener, and the next school will be what showcases their talent.
I don't assume that, and you have a good point. I just think that, a year ago, he would have been a good one for that type of role, under the assumption that Jordan Dartis was starting most games.
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OU_Country
4/4/2019 3:28 PM
greencat wrote:expand_more
There are really good Juco players out there...check out where some of these guys are headed next...

https://www.jucorecruiting.com/2019-juco-basketball-top-1...
I'm wondering how many of those committed to UB will remain that way. It would be kind of nice to have one or two end up at Ohio after re-opening their recruitment.
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allen
4/4/2019 3:32 PM
greencat wrote:expand_more
There are really good Juco players out there...check out where some of these guys are headed next...

https://www.jucorecruiting.com/2019-juco-basketball-top-1...
James Reese is a good one, he signed with buffalo and he is the former South Carolina player of the year.
http://www.wranglersports.com/sports/mbkb/2018-19/bios/re...
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