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Andrew Ruck
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Posted: 6/13/2019 7:34 PM
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JSF wrote:expand_more
In some ways, D-II is even dirtier than D-I. Hope he doesn't get swallowed up.
How so? Just curious. I know nothing about D2 basketball.
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Posted: 6/14/2019 1:27 AM
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I think transferring rules are more lax. That may be part of what JSF was referring to.
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Posted: 6/14/2019 11:25 AM
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Sounds like a win/win situation for everyone involved. I trust that Saul has learned a thing or two at the Division I level that might help him in this particular situation. I'll certainly be following his situation and wish both him and his wonderful family the absolute best of luck.
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Posted: 6/14/2019 8:28 PM
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Saul recruited good kids with ONE good ass’t and one young ass’t and one BAD ass’t . Hope he can get a good staff to work the area
His one good ass’t has a good job and will do well
The young ass’t might be looking for a high school job
The bad ass’t should sell used cars
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Posted: 6/16/2019 8:07 AM
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In 3 years he'll have this squad playing .500 ball.
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Posted: 6/16/2019 10:40 AM
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Saul is experienced in recruiting D-2 level talent.
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Posted: 6/16/2019 9:37 PM
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bobcat28 wrote:expand_more
In 3 years he'll have this squad playing .500 ball.

greencat wrote:expand_more
Saul is experienced in recruiting D-2 level talent.
Gotta love the positive attitude and recruiting expertise here! 👍
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Posted: 6/16/2019 9:52 PM
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Saul is experienced in recruiting D-2 level talent.
So you are saying the MAC is D-2?

MAC All-Freshman team

2019=Preston and VanderPlas

2018=Kirk

2017 Carter all freshman team and all conference later

2016 Dartis on all freshman team with Massinburg and wins all conference later
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Posted: 6/20/2019 4:47 PM
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colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Just watched the whole press conference, and no kidding the first thing out of the AD’s mouth was “it’s a great day to be a wolf”
They make these guys in a stamping machine. You can get a different color paint job, maybe a matte finish, but you can't really get a different one.
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Posted: 6/20/2019 4:57 PM
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OU_Country wrote:expand_more
In 3 years he'll have this squad playing .500 ball.

Saul is experienced in recruiting D-2 level talent.
Gotta love the positive attitude and recruiting expertise here! 👍
Don't disagree, but let's not be too overboard on shaming some of our fans' annoyance at how this all turned out.

If the big splashy hire made at almost any other DI program turned out to eventually be a D2 coach, those would be the nicest things ever posted about that coach on their message boards. There would be a Deadspin story on how FORMER OHIO STATE COACH NOW SLUMMING IT IN NORTH DAKOTA followed by a belittling "I ACTUALLY LOVE IT HERE IN EXILE" profile in Sports Illustrated.
Last Edited: 6/20/2019 4:59:46 PM by Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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Posted: 6/20/2019 5:56 PM
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Brian Smith wrote:expand_more
Just watched the whole press conference, and no kidding the first thing out of the AD’s mouth was “it’s a great day to be a wolf”


They make these guys in a stamping machine. You can get a different color paint job, maybe a matte finish, but you can't really get a different one.


"Little boxes on the hillside
Little boxes made of ticky-tacky
Little boxes on the hillside
Little boxes all the same
There's a pink one and a green one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same"

Last Edited: 6/20/2019 6:02:10 PM by OhioCatFan
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Brian Smith wrote:expand_more
Just watched the whole press conference, and no kidding the first thing out of the AD’s mouth was “it’s a great day to be a wolf”
They make these guys in a stamping machine. You can get a different color paint job, maybe a matte finish, but you can't really get a different one.
But they are labeled with "collector's item" on the box!

It's pretty sad how uncreative organizations/people can be. Ever since Clemson launched their "All In" motto/concept/whatever you want to call it, it seems like half the high schools in the country have started using it.

Same with the reveal a lot of high schoolers use on Twitter to share that they are "blessed to share that they will be continuing my academic and athletic career at _____________ University."

I think it would have been awesome if the AD would just walk up to the mic and howl as long and hard as he physically can. Then be like "what up, my wolves?!

The new Ohio AD simply needs to walk up to the mic and say "OU? Oh yeah!"
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Posted: 8/5/2019 1:41 PM
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OUcats82 wrote:expand_more
The new Ohio AD simply needs to walk up to the mic and say "OU? Oh yeah!"
I love this idea.
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Posted: 8/5/2019 1:52 PM
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Househunters is impressive. But let me know when he gets on a food network show with Giada de Laurentiis and then I'll tune in for sure.
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Posted: 8/5/2019 2:54 PM
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Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
In some ways, D-II is even dirtier than D-I. Hope he doesn't get swallowed up.
How so? Just curious. I know nothing about D2 basketball.
I am curious as well. What ways are dirtier? I know Jeff answered for JSF but I am now intrigued how it could possibly be dirtier than the stuff we have seen in DI the last 2 seasons.
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Househunters is impressive. But let me know when he gets on a food network show with Giada de Laurentiis and then I'll tune in for sure.
I was reading an article about how little "reality" there is in "reality T.V."

I don't know about Househunters,but for shows like "Beachfront Bargain Hunt",you can't even apply to be on the show until you've closed on the
house you decide to buy on the show.

Also never knew that all the furniture on Fixer Upper were props.
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Posted: 8/5/2019 4:51 PM
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I suggest Saul focus on becoming a better coach rather than a reality TV personality. Much room for improvement, to be sure.
Last Edited: 8/5/2019 4:59:24 PM by SBH
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I suggest Saul focus on becoming a better coach rather than a reality TV personality. Much room for improvement, to be sure.
Agreed. While their self-promotion may have ingratiated them to lots of people, the $2.5 million that he was paid was a very poor return on investment for OU.
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Posted: 8/5/2019 8:12 PM
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OU_Country wrote:expand_more
The new Ohio AD simply needs to walk up to the mic and say "OU? Oh yeah!"
I love this idea.
OH YEAH !!
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Posted: 8/5/2019 9:49 PM
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Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
I suggest Saul focus on becoming a better coach rather than a reality TV personality. Much room for improvement, to be sure.
Agreed. While their self-promotion may have ingratiated them to lots of people, the $2.5 million that he was paid was a very poor return on investment for OU.
Very bizarre that with all of this self-promotion that Saul never understood the value of twitter as a head coach and how it can help recruiting.
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Posted: 8/6/2019 10:41 AM
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FearLeon wrote:expand_more
I suggest Saul focus on becoming a better coach rather than a reality TV personality. Much room for improvement, to be sure.
Agreed. While their self-promotion may have ingratiated them to lots of people, the $2.5 million that he was paid was a very poor return on investment for OU.
Very bizarre that with all of this self-promotion that Saul never understood the value of twitter as a head coach and how it can help recruiting.
It's a tool that can be useful, but I wonder how much it really matters with recruiting?

For us, it's interesting that we're able to easily compare how inactive Saul Phillips was to how active Jeff Boals is. What I wonder about is how active most D1 head coaches are? It seems like Coach Brannen at UC is fairly active - more than Mick Cronin was. Mick was still successful obviously. Coach Holtmann is somewhat active for OSU. I don't pay attention to any other coaches, but I'd be interested to hear about some who are where it seems to help them recruit. My perception is that Coach Boals uses it to his advantage - but I don't know how much it influences decisions of players to come to OU.
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OU_Country wrote:expand_more
I suggest Saul focus on becoming a better coach rather than a reality TV personality. Much room for improvement, to be sure.
Agreed. While their self-promotion may have ingratiated them to lots of people, the $2.5 million that he was paid was a very poor return on investment for OU.
Very bizarre that with all of this self-promotion that Saul never understood the value of twitter as a head coach and how it can help recruiting.
It's a tool that can be useful, but I wonder how much it really matters with recruiting?

For us, it's interesting that we're able to easily compare how inactive Saul Phillips was to how active Jeff Boals is. What I wonder about is how active most D1 head coaches are? It seems like Coach Brannen at UC is fairly active - more than Mick Cronin was. Mick was still successful obviously. Coach Holtmann is somewhat active for OSU. I don't pay attention to any other coaches, but I'd be interested to hear about some who are where it seems to help them recruit. My perception is that Coach Boals uses it to his advantage - but I don't know how much it influences decisions of players to come to OU.
Does a coach who is active on Twitter sway a recruit....no. But it certainly can't hurt to score some cool points with the recruits and their families. It's all about branding the program you lead. The fact that Saul never embraced it is very odd to me since he's not afraid to appear on reality shows.
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Posted: 8/7/2019 9:11 AM
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FearLeon wrote:expand_more
I suggest Saul focus on becoming a better coach rather than a reality TV personality. Much room for improvement, to be sure.
Agreed. While their self-promotion may have ingratiated them to lots of people, the $2.5 million that he was paid was a very poor return on investment for OU.
Very bizarre that with all of this self-promotion that Saul never understood the value of twitter as a head coach and how it can help recruiting.
It's a tool that can be useful, but I wonder how much it really matters with recruiting?

For us, it's interesting that we're able to easily compare how inactive Saul Phillips was to how active Jeff Boals is. What I wonder about is how active most D1 head coaches are? It seems like Coach Brannen at UC is fairly active - more than Mick Cronin was. Mick was still successful obviously. Coach Holtmann is somewhat active for OSU. I don't pay attention to any other coaches, but I'd be interested to hear about some who are where it seems to help them recruit. My perception is that Coach Boals uses it to his advantage - but I don't know how much it influences decisions of players to come to OU.
Does a coach who is active on Twitter sway a recruit....no. But it certainly can't hurt to score some cool points with the recruits and their families. It's all about branding the program you lead. The fact that Saul never embraced it is very odd to me since he's not afraid to appear on reality shows.
Agreed. While not an absolute necessity it does give you another touchpoint with anyone you seek to connect with. It can benefit in building a connection/relationship with prospects, gives your fan base a glimpse into what you are doing/who you are seeking after and, in some cases, gives you a bit of the benefit of the doubt when anyone questions if you are truly leveraging all of the tools available to you.

I do wonder how many Twitter accounts used by coaches are actually fed by a ghostwriter.
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Posted: 8/7/2019 9:25 AM
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Saul was still using Friendster and MySpace as his main social media tools so he was a little behind.
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