So, for those wanting to retain Saul, does tonight's result change anything in your mind?

I just don't see any way of justifying an extension...short of dire financials in which we cannot get anyone better (which could be possible).

The title of this thread is just shocking.

Completely based on a loss to Buffalo and a comeback win at home...on Senior Day....to an awful Miami team.

Look at the entire body of work. This thing is a grease fire.

I think the idea is that things at OHIO would be like Stoney Brook, with Boals as head coach and Ford as his assistant.

This game was emblematic of the entire season; decent stretches, awful stretches. If some of the players truly wanted Coach Phillips back they sure didn't play like it. They made Northern look like Buffalo.

Russ and Rob were pretty blunt in their assessment of what will probably happen tomorrow. They said it was above their pay grade.

I am not one to rant and rave about things, but I am still at a loss as to how some people whom I respect and are long time posters on here think we deserve this. The nuns taught me to offer up sufferings for the poor souls in purgatory and I do, buy they also taught me masochism is a sin too. The idea that we should put up with this for another season is truly sinful.

Since those who defend what we have seen this year haven't answered my repeated questions as to why we deserve this let me ask one more time. Do you really think we can't find anyone to do a better job? Did you want to see Coach Hahn retained? Was I just imaging that Coach Nee had us turned around in his third season? Was I just imagining that the late Coach Majerus took a hapless Ball State team and had them 29-3 in his second year? Finally, the late Charlie Coles, playing in the horrid East German like structure they call Millett Hall, and playing second fiddle to the hockey team, probably wished he had the kind of talent we had this season, yet he rarely had a team play this uninspired. I just don't understand why anyone believes we deserve this.

I hope Coach Phillips has enough financial resources to take a year off and study the game as did Coach Solich did the year before he came our way. Coach Solich said it helped him immeasurably. I hope the perspective gained from a year off would make a good man like Coach Phillips an even better coach.

If Saul is retained, the anger on this board is going to turn into apathy. How excited would you be to renew your season tickets if it's announced that he's coming back? How difficult would it be to generate any excitement for what's left of a student body that regularly attends games?

Not to rehash the "solich hasn't won a MAC" argument, but you can't argue that his success has at least brought hope every year and some sense of optimism before each season.

That's not the case right now with the basketball team. I never like to see a coach leave but it's time to turn the page.

Bingo! A 1/3-of-the-way-filled Convo Friday night against Miami was horrible to see. I felt compelled to tell the guests I brought with me "You should have seen this place for a Miami game years ago".

+1. Hard pass on Geno as HC for me. I still ask, what compels Boals to come back to Ohio other than the love for the Alma Mater? As a business decision, is is really all that great of an idea for him at this point in his career?

Are there any Power 5 assistants angone would like to see that would take the pay here?

My nephew is a sophomore at Ohio and he's attended one men's basketball game in his first two years. I never missed one home game in my four years at Ohio when school was in session. I also went to countless road games. I asked him why are you and your friends not going to basketball games? His response..."Because we aren't any good." Have to produce a better product on the court to get the fanbase interested....especially students.

In the past, good basketball covered for the fact that pretty much every other aspect of a Convo gameday kind of sucks (uninviting entrance that looks and is patrolled like it’s Baghdad, sub-high school concessions, and so-so in-game/timeout entertainment. New scoreboard definitely is nice though). When everything sucks, it becomes a tough sell fast

So we want the guy whose team lost early in their conference tournament,at home, when they were a 2 seed? Hmm....

The most important thing to look at, IMO, is the assistant's recruiting track record. Groce was a grand slam hire because he was one of the nation's top recruiters, period. If you go back and look at the number of 5 Stars he was pulling in at OSU, it was remarkable.

Pedon may be a fine coach, but he is no where near the level that Groce was. That's why I'm saying Tom Ostrom's the guy. He's already landed two 5 Stars in Langford and Jackson-Davis, plus an elite 4 star out of Columbus in Jerome Hunter. He knows how to recruit at the highest level, and knows how to recruit Ohio. Plus he has worked under a pack-line defensive guy in Archie, who just so happens to come from the same coaching tree as Groce.

I'll say it again, Ostrom is the guy.

Also, for all of those who doubt whether we'll be able to attract quality candidates, this is still the best job in the conference. It's not just me saying that, but the MAC's own coaches:

https://watchstadium.com/news/mac-college-basketball-coac... /