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OU_Country
10/17/2019 10:45 AM
IceCat76 wrote:expand_more
FYI. Article in this morning's Boston Globe.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/colleges/2019/10/15/co...
Nice piece. Good for him and his staff on evolving and changing what they do to elevate their expectations. I hope they go dancin' this year.
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Obc2
10/17/2019 5:45 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
FYI. Article in this morning's Boston Globe.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/colleges/2019/10/15/co...
Nice piece. Good for him and his staff on evolving and changing what they do to elevate their expectations. I hope they go dancin' this year.
Cuck Fhristion.

Assclown.
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Bobcat Love
10/19/2019 2:29 PM
No mentions of Khadeem Green?
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bshot44
10/21/2019 11:14 AM
Obc2 wrote:expand_more
FYI. Article in this morning's Boston Globe.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/colleges/2019/10/15/co...
Nice piece. Good for him and his staff on evolving and changing what they do to elevate their expectations. I hope they go dancin' this year.
Cuck Fhristion.

Assclown.
Never fully understood the flat out vitriol for Christian by Ohio fans. I mean, he's the only coach to bring a MAC regular season title to Athens outside of Larry Hunter in 35 years.

I personally liked the guy ... thought he was a good coach. Was very disappointed he didn't stay longer in Athens ... but couldn't blame him for jumping to an ACC job that was very close to his hometown.
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Bobcat1998
10/21/2019 11:52 AM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
FYI. Article in this morning's Boston Globe.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/colleges/2019/10/15/co...
Nice piece. Good for him and his staff on evolving and changing what they do to elevate their expectations. I hope they go dancin' this year.
Cuck Fhristion.

Assclown.
Never fully understood the flat out vitriol for Christian by Ohio fans. I mean, he's the only coach to bring a MAC regular season title to Athens outside of Larry Hunter in 35 years.

I personally liked the guy ... thought he was a good coach. Was very disappointed he didn't stay longer in Athens ... but couldn't blame him for jumping to an ACC job that was very close to his hometown.
I don't dislike the guy but I certainly don't care what he does for the rest of his career. He had a nice little run in Athens in terms of wins and losses but he wasted a ton of talent that was GIVEN TO HIM by Groce and didn't get us to the Tourney. Once again, I wish no ill will towards the man but I don't feel anything towards him at all. Just like Saul, I can't hate the guy for being a mediocre coach and recruiter. Nice guy who just didn't belong in Athens. But I won't root for him elsewhere. I'd rather root for guys like Fuss and Tommy F.
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shabamon
10/21/2019 12:05 PM
Bobcat1998 wrote:expand_more
FYI. Article in this morning's Boston Globe.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/colleges/2019/10/15/co...
Nice piece. Good for him and his staff on evolving and changing what they do to elevate their expectations. I hope they go dancin' this year.
Cuck Fhristion.

Assclown.
Never fully understood the flat out vitriol for Christian by Ohio fans. I mean, he's the only coach to bring a MAC regular season title to Athens outside of Larry Hunter in 35 years.

I personally liked the guy ... thought he was a good coach. Was very disappointed he didn't stay longer in Athens ... but couldn't blame him for jumping to an ACC job that was very close to his hometown.
I don't dislike the guy but I certainly don't care what he does for the rest of his career. He had a nice little run in Athens in terms of wins and losses but he wasted a ton of talent that was GIVEN TO HIM by Groce and didn't get us to the Tourney. Once again, I wish no ill will towards the man but I don't feel anything towards him at all. Just like Saul, I can't hate the guy for being a mediocre coach and recruiter. Nice guy who just didn't belong in Athens. But I won't root for him elsewhere. I'd rather root for guys like Fuss and Tommy F.
The 2013/14 team under Christian played harder and more resiliently than any other Bobcat team I can remember. My lasting memories of that year were getting down double digits multiple times but still rallying for wins, despite multiple nagging injuries and a season-ender. I really appreciated their effort. I'm not even mad at not returning to the tournament in 2013. Akron was really, really good that year and they were the only MAC team to beat us. What I did not like was the following:

1) That he was hired with the belief that he was a long term solution. He used us as a lifesaver to get out of TCU. I never thought he truly belonged in Athens or that we was OUR coach. The hire looked temporary the whole way, and I'm surprised Schaus could not see that. I think it was JSF who said that Groce's system gives you a chance to beat anyone, but JC's system will have you win the games you're supposed to, but never pull the upset.

2) There were lots of signs that players did not like him. Treg Setty told us on this board that he hated him. Jon Smith quit the team before the CIT he had enough. His on-court body language did not seem to reach the players when they made a mistake, particularly Ivo and Stevie who seemed to hang their heads on the bench. But what do I know? Stevie ended up working on his BC staff, and as mentioned before, we were winning games, so how much does that really matter?
Last Edited: 10/21/2019 12:06:34 PM by shabamon
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bobcatsquared
10/21/2019 12:59 PM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
Never fully understood the flat out vitriol for Christian by Ohio fans.
The English language lacks a word that measures my indifference toward Jim Christian and his success at BC.
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JSF
10/21/2019 10:49 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
I think it was JSF who said that Groce's system gives you a chance to beat anyone, but JC's system will have you win the games you're supposed to, but never pull the upset.
Sounds like I thing I would say. Probably included that Groce's teams could lose to almost anyone, too.
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FearLeon
10/22/2019 9:15 AM
I know people like to harp on Jim Christian winning the MAC during his brief tenure. However, if you don't consider him not taking OHIO back to the NCAA Tournament at least once in those two years as a massive failure...then I can't help you. The man was left with a loaded roster and didn't meet expectations.

I'll also never forget his players turning his back on him during the Memphis game. He did not have the respect of his players and we continue to hear stories about that era of OHIO hoops trickle out as the years pass by. Treg's comments on his experience with Christian are telling.
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shabamon
10/22/2019 9:42 AM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
I know people like to harp on Jim Christian winning the MAC during his brief tenure. However, if you don't consider him not taking OHIO back to the NCAA Tournament at least once in those two years as a massive failure...then I can't help you. The man was left with a loaded roster and didn't meet expectations.
Yeah, I'm in that camp. I'm not surprised with not going in 2014 with all the injuries we dealt with throughout the year. Yes, we did return everyone, but so did Akron and we beat them by only one in the 2012 final. I did not like getting blown out in the 2013 final and then laying an egg in the NIT first round. I wonder if people would feel differently about that year if we had better showings in either game.
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OhioCatFan
10/22/2019 10:48 AM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
I know people like to harp on Jim Christian winning the MAC during his brief tenure. However, if you don't consider him not taking OHIO back to the NCAA Tournament at least once in those two years as a massive failure...then I can't help you. The man was left with a loaded roster and didn't meet expectations.

I'll also never forget his players turning his back on him during the Memphis game. He did not have the respect of his players and we continue to hear stories about that era of OHIO hoops trickle out as the years pass by. Treg's comments on his experience with Christian are telling.
+1

If I recall correctly his teams choked in every game against a quality non-conference opponent. And, if you look back at his time at TCU and KSU, it was not much different. Some guys are "big game coaches" (like Jim Groce, Jim Snyder, Danny Nee, and even Larry Hunter to some extent), but not JC, IMHO.
Last Edited: 10/22/2019 10:49:28 AM by OhioCatFan
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