Pretty sure there are several teams with this type of position. College basketball as we knew it, and even as we know it now, may cease to exist in the very near future if someone doesn't get their hands around "the wild, wild west" that college athletics has become. I for one am sad about how it's going. Players deserve compensation. Players shouldn't be getting million dollar enticements to jump programs on a whim. That was never the spirit of "NIL" to begin with.

The NCAA doesn't get nearly as muck flak for this as it deserves. There were people for years who tried to implement a reasonable system for player pay. The NCAA fought it to the death until the courts blew the doors off, leading to what we have now.

Absolutely agree. The NCAA is killing their own golden goose. And at some point, you'd think that "donors" are going to quit being willing to give the kind of money to their respective programs that they are now. I.e., the money well will start to run dry, right?

Players deserve compensation, but with that should come some kind of agreement that they can't transfer without giving back some of the "NIL money" they received. This form of free agency is worse than any professional sport on earth because there are almost no consequences for leaving to a new place every single year. Yes, that's a contract, and that makes them employees, but who the hell are we kidding? That's exactly what is happening now.

I am honestly shocked we haven’t seen any contracts like this for NIL yet. Something like “we’ll pay you $100K per season for 4 years, but if you leave early we recoup 50%.” It’s exactly what is done for coaches (buyout clauses), and, if players can be paid directly (I.e. are employees), there’s no reason such a contract shouldn’t hold up against legal challenges.

You can’t have said contract, because the NIL is for anything BUT performance. Until they become employees, going to be very hard to legally restrain this trade. And when they do become employees, you’ll see schools drop out of this rat race.

You can’t have said contract, because the NIL is for anything BUT performance. Until they become employees, going to be very hard to legally restrain this trade. And when they do become employees, you’ll see schools drop out of this rat race.

You can’t bind a student to that school. Do you think no one has thought of this yet?

It is a business agreement. But you think an athlete is going to sign one that locks him in? These kids have representatives at the higher levels. If it was as easy as you say, Smith at OSU would be locked up. No one is contractual to their school through NIL, that’s just not how this works.

I mean yes, XYZ could sign a two year deal with the Buggy, but it’s risky for the Buggy because an NIL CANNON stipulate that XYZ play at OHIO to get paid. That is explicitly against the law and rule of NIL. So why would a collective sign XYZ to a two year contract when next year they may be paying them to play against them.

What you propose though is not what’s happening and or what is going to happen in the immediate future. Why you like living in a fantasy world? That’s is up to you. [/QUOTE]It is actually exactly what's happening in many, many cases. That you aren't capable of reading what I'm saying and understanding it doesn't change that.

Tons and tons of athletes are getting paid by brands per Instagram post. That's a perfect example of what I'm talking about -- a contract that's based on specific deliverables and milestones. A "deliverable" would be the post itself; the milestones would be a number of posts and cadence of posts within a certain timeline before payment is issued. I'm sure they even have kickers when certain engagement metrics are met.

When Mark Sears was still here there was some local company that paid him for some Instagram posts. I forget who it was. Do you think they're still paying him? He just did a post for Cava. How do you think that contract was structured? Think they dropped a briefcase full of cash at his house or did they maybe get a contract signed?

Also, here's an analysis from ESPN of actual NIL contracts: https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/44107758/n...

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LeRoy, who reviewed several contracts obtained by ESPN, said the deals meet several key standards in a legal test that federal courts have established to determine if someone is an employee. As they roughly defined, an employee is someone performing services for another party's benefit in exchange for compensation while under that party's control.

The contracts viewed by ESPN are structured, in part, as licensing deals where the school is buying the rights to use the athlete's NIL in promotions. Payments for those rights are separate from the tuition and other academic-related funding athletes receive from their schools.

Many of the contracts explicitly state that athletes are not employees and are not being paid for playing on the team. However, experts say, the fine print might be deemed in a court challenge to contradict those assertions.

Part of the argument, they say, focuses on the amount of control that the schools impose on athletes in this exchange. The transfer portal has emerged as one of the principal ways athletes can leverage their talents to get a better deal, but contractual language seems designed to limit players' maneuverability.

Several of the contracts and templates require players (or their future teams) to pay a buyout fee if athletes decide to transfer schools before the end of the contract. Most let the school stop paying athletes immediately if they enter the transfer portal -- or if they or their agent even express interest in a transfer. .

It is actually exactly what's happening in many, many cases. That you aren't capable of reading what I'm saying and understanding it doesn't change that.

Tons and tons of athletes are getting paid by brands per Instagram post. That's a perfect example of what I'm talking about -- a contract that's based on specific deliverables and milestones. A "deliverable" would be the post itself; the milestones would be a number of posts and cadence of posts within a certain timeline before payment is issued. I'm sure they even have kickers when certain engagement metrics are met.

When Mark Sears was still here there was some local company that paid him for some Instagram posts. I forget who it was. Do you think they're still paying him? He just did a post for Cava. How do you think that contract was structured? Think they dropped a briefcase full of cash at his house or did they maybe get a contract signed?

Also, here's an analysis from ESPN of actual NIL contracts: https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/44107758/n...

The contracts do the exact thing Bobcat Tattoo suggested. Far more aggressively than my suggestions, in fact. It took me 2 minutes of googling to know more about this than you do with all of your "insider" info.

But the good news is that your streak of simultaneously being very, very wrong and a condescending prick remains unbroken. 10,244 posts of that and counting. An impressive streak.

You miss the topic. NONE of those lock a player into a school. If you got it figured out, you’ve got a lot of money on the table in fees. Go get you some! Don’t dream about it be about it! Our players need help navigating this NIL landscape, please for Bobcatnation, go help us all. Get these guys paid and tied into long term contracts. [/QUOTE]He said:


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What you propose though is not what’s happening and or what is going to happen in the immediate future. Why you like living in a fantasy world? That’s is up to you.

What you don’t get is no player is signing that contract and it’s not NIL legal, which is its own law. You really think you two have invented something!?


Go make your money! Cash that shit in! You got the NIL answer, go make it!