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Ted Thompson
2/26/2020 2:55 PM

Use this thread to talk about anything game-related. 

Date: February 28th, 2020 6:30 PM

Opponent: Kent St.  (18-10, 8-7 MAC)

Site: Convocation Center

TV: CBS Sports Network

Radio: Ohio Radio or TuneIn Radio

Webcast: None

Kent St. statistics, roster and media guide.

Kent St. Fan Site:  Flash Fanatics

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GoCats105
2/26/2020 3:50 PM
I know this has already been beat to death, but this date switch this late in the season kills any chances of a good crowd for Jordy's last game as a Bobcat. With the OHSAA postseason already started, those games are going to be a more important draw than this one and that's sad. I hope anyone who can go, will go.
Last Edited: 2/26/2020 3:50:18 PM by GoCats105
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OU_Country
2/26/2020 4:10 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
I know this has already been beat to death, but this date switch this late in the season kills any chances of a good crowd for Jordy's last game as a Bobcat. With the OHSAA postseason already started, those games are going to be a more important draw than this one and that's sad. I hope anyone who can go, will go.
Obviously, I'm not shy on this point. This sucks, and it ticks me off as a season ticket holder. Ten days ago, I sent an email to Julie Cromer and Amy Dean expressing my frustration about this, figuring that complaints on a message board isn't going to get any real change started. No response to date. If I knew who to send it to in the MAC offices, I'd probably send it to them too.

Stuff like this absolutely is going to influence my spending decisions on Ohio Athletics and "MACtion" in the future. For me, this became a the final nudge between my renewing everything without a second thought, and considering if there are other ways my wife and I can spend our time and dollars.
(worth noting that, no matter what, I'll have basketball tickets - just might spend less.)

That said, I agree, I hope anyone who can go, does. If I didn't have prior plans with my parents Friday, I'd be there regardless of how annoyed I am. Instead, I'll be watching on 'tape delay' when I get home Friday night.
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SBH
2/26/2020 4:30 PM
Inexcusable that you have not received a response from the AD.
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The Better Ohio Bobcat
2/26/2020 4:46 PM
But it’s better to be on tv. The more games on tv, the more money OU makes. And even if you have a problem with it it’s not Ohio’s fault, it’s the MAC’s fault. You better hope we don’t get good because Buffalo played almost all of their MAC weekend games on a Friday last year.
Last Edited: 2/26/2020 4:49:42 PM by The Better Ohio Bobcat
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GoCats105
2/26/2020 5:13 PM
The Ohio University wrote:expand_more
But it’s better to be on tv. The more games on tv, the more money OU makes. And even if you have a problem with it it’s not Ohio’s fault, it’s the MAC’s fault. You better hope we don’t get good because Buffalo played almost all of their MAC weekend games on a Friday last year.
I'd really like to see the difference in revenue between having a Friday night game on TV versus a Saturday afternoon where a potentially decent crowd could be on hand given these factors:

1. Senior Day, including one of the best Bobcats we've had in a while in his last game in the Convo.

2. Kent, while not a rival, is always a good draw and usually a really good game.

3. Most high school games in the area are probably playing on Friday, and the ones that aren't may have been bounced from the tournament already.

4. The other games we'll be competing with for eyeballs that night: Harvard at Columbia (ESPNNews), Davidson at Dayton (ESPN2), Villanova at Creighton (FS1), loaded NBA schedule and a smattering of women's basketball games.

I don't know how much money we're making off of these, since CBS is only airing 12 football games and 12 basketball games a season. And all of that money is split between the conference members. It can't be THAT large.

https://getsomemaction.com/news/2019/7/22/football-mac-cb...
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bobcatsquared
2/26/2020 7:11 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
I know this has already been beat to death, but this date switch this late in the season kills any chances of a good crowd for Jordy's last game as a Bobcat. With the OHSAA postseason already started, those games are going to be a more important draw than this one and that's sad. I hope anyone who can go, will go.
Newark fans hoping to catch Dartis' senior night lucked out.

All Central Ohio DI second-round games are scheduled for Friday. However, Newark announced a couple of days ago that their home game has been moved to Thursday night so the gym can be used for a wrestling tournament Friday night. I know several local Bobcat fans that wouldn't have been able to make it Friday night are now planning on being there for Dartis' home finale.
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OU_Country
2/26/2020 8:37 PM
The Ohio University wrote:expand_more
But it’s better to be on tv. The more games on tv, the more money OU makes. And even if you have a problem with it it’s not Ohio’s fault, it’s the MAC’s fault. You better hope we don’t get good because Buffalo played almost all of their MAC weekend games on a Friday last year.
Is it better? How's the fan base of this conference going to look in ten years after games get moved around on a whim two weeks before a game for ESPN or CBS? Agree with me, or not, this angers fans that buy tickets and season tickets only to watch their plans get screwed up. The MAC should be able to negotiate a deal that at least extends the notice required to move the date of the game to 30-45 days.

What other conferences have this kind of deal that allows a TV "partner" to move their game dates?
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OU_Country
2/26/2020 8:38 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
I know this has already been beat to death, but this date switch this late in the season kills any chances of a good crowd for Jordy's last game as a Bobcat. With the OHSAA postseason already started, those games are going to be a more important draw than this one and that's sad. I hope anyone who can go, will go.
Newark fans hoping to catch Dartis' senior night lucked out.

All Central Ohio DI second-round games are scheduled for Friday. However, Newark announced a couple of days ago that their home game has been moved to Thursday night so the gym can be used for a wrestling tournament Friday night. I know several local Bobcat fans that wouldn't have been able to make it Friday night are now planning on being there for Dartis' home finale.
Glad to hear this. He deserves a good send off.
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BillyTheCat
2/26/2020 8:55 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
But it’s better to be on tv. The more games on tv, the more money OU makes. And even if you have a problem with it it’s not Ohio’s fault, it’s the MAC’s fault. You better hope we don’t get good because Buffalo played almost all of their MAC weekend games on a Friday last year.
I'd really like to see the difference in revenue between having a Friday night game on TV versus a Saturday afternoon where a potentially decent crowd could be on hand given these factors:

1. Senior Day, including one of the best Bobcats we've had in a while in his last game in the Convo.

2. Kent, while not a rival, is always a good draw and usually a really good game.

3. Most high school games in the area are probably playing on Friday, and the ones that aren't may have been bounced from the tournament already.

4. The other games we'll be competing with for eyeballs that night: Harvard at Columbia (ESPNNews), Davidson at Dayton (ESPN2), Villanova at Creighton (FS1), loaded NBA schedule and a smattering of women's basketball games.

I don't know how much money we're making off of these, since CBS is only airing 12 football games and 12 basketball games a season. And all of that money is split between the conference members. It can't be THAT large.

https://getsomemaction.com/news/2019/7/22/football-mac-cb...
In th SE District, all the tournament games are held in the Convocation Center from tonight until the Final Four. So I really doubt that any area teams will be playing on Friday night
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Recovering Journalist
2/26/2020 9:01 PM
For a variety of reasons, I’ve missed every game this year - as a season ticket holder. This was on the calendar, room is booked... and I’m screwed by the MAC office. Disheartening.

I hope Dartis goes off and that my first game of the year is in Cleveland.
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NashvilleKat
2/26/2020 10:33 PM
Driving in from Nashville. Always excited to attend a game at the Convo. Any BA's want to say hello, we're in section 115, Row A, Seats 6 and 7.
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OU_Country
2/26/2020 10:37 PM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
For a variety of reasons, I’ve missed every game this year - as a season ticket holder. This was on the calendar, room is booked... and I’m screwed by the MAC office. Disheartening.

I hope Dartis goes off and that my first game of the year is in Cleveland.
I hope so as well. Send a note to the AD. I feel like they need to be made aware in cases like this that several people's plans are affected by this wonky TV deal. Even if they can't change it now, it could have bearing on the future. Maybe? Possibly?
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GoCats105
2/27/2020 9:19 AM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
But it’s better to be on tv. The more games on tv, the more money OU makes. And even if you have a problem with it it’s not Ohio’s fault, it’s the MAC’s fault. You better hope we don’t get good because Buffalo played almost all of their MAC weekend games on a Friday last year.
I'd really like to see the difference in revenue between having a Friday night game on TV versus a Saturday afternoon where a potentially decent crowd could be on hand given these factors:

1. Senior Day, including one of the best Bobcats we've had in a while in his last game in the Convo.

2. Kent, while not a rival, is always a good draw and usually a really good game.

3. Most high school games in the area are probably playing on Friday, and the ones that aren't may have been bounced from the tournament already.

4. The other games we'll be competing with for eyeballs that night: Harvard at Columbia (ESPNNews), Davidson at Dayton (ESPN2), Villanova at Creighton (FS1), loaded NBA schedule and a smattering of women's basketball games.

I don't know how much money we're making off of these, since CBS is only airing 12 football games and 12 basketball games a season. And all of that money is split between the conference members. It can't be THAT large.

https://getsomemaction.com/news/2019/7/22/football-mac-cb...
In th SE District, all the tournament games are held in the Convocation Center from tonight until the Final Four. So I really doubt that any area teams will be playing on Friday night
Interesting that they play the sectional games there. My knowledge was based off the East District which has switched to the higher seeds' home gyms for the first two rounds in sectional play.
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UpSan Bobcat
2/27/2020 11:11 AM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
But it’s better to be on tv. The more games on tv, the more money OU makes. And even if you have a problem with it it’s not Ohio’s fault, it’s the MAC’s fault. You better hope we don’t get good because Buffalo played almost all of their MAC weekend games on a Friday last year.
I'd really like to see the difference in revenue between having a Friday night game on TV versus a Saturday afternoon where a potentially decent crowd could be on hand given these factors:

1. Senior Day, including one of the best Bobcats we've had in a while in his last game in the Convo.

2. Kent, while not a rival, is always a good draw and usually a really good game.

3. Most high school games in the area are probably playing on Friday, and the ones that aren't may have been bounced from the tournament already.

4. The other games we'll be competing with for eyeballs that night: Harvard at Columbia (ESPNNews), Davidson at Dayton (ESPN2), Villanova at Creighton (FS1), loaded NBA schedule and a smattering of women's basketball games.

I don't know how much money we're making off of these, since CBS is only airing 12 football games and 12 basketball games a season. And all of that money is split between the conference members. It can't be THAT large.

https://getsomemaction.com/news/2019/7/22/football-mac-cb...
In th SE District, all the tournament games are held in the Convocation Center from tonight until the Final Four. So I really doubt that any area teams will be playing on Friday night
Interesting that they play the sectional games there. My knowledge was based off the East District which has switched to the higher seeds' home gyms for the first two rounds in sectional play.
I believe the southeast district has neutral site games for sectional rounds, but it is into district play there. The southeast plays sectional games a week before some of the other districts.
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FanInTheStands
2/27/2020 11:32 AM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
But it’s better to be on tv. The more games on tv, the more money OU makes. And even if you have a problem with it it’s not Ohio’s fault, it’s the MAC’s fault. You better hope we don’t get good because Buffalo played almost all of their MAC weekend games on a Friday last year.
I'd really like to see the difference in revenue between having a Friday night game on TV versus a Saturday afternoon where a potentially decent crowd could be on hand given these factors:

1. Senior Day, including one of the best Bobcats we've had in a while in his last game in the Convo.

2. Kent, while not a rival, is always a good draw and usually a really good game.

3. Most high school games in the area are probably playing on Friday, and the ones that aren't may have been bounced from the tournament already.

4. The other games we'll be competing with for eyeballs that night: Harvard at Columbia (ESPNNews), Davidson at Dayton (ESPN2), Villanova at Creighton (FS1), loaded NBA schedule and a smattering of women's basketball games.

I don't know how much money we're making off of these, since CBS is only airing 12 football games and 12 basketball games a season. And all of that money is split between the conference members. It can't be THAT large.

https://getsomemaction.com/news/2019/7/22/football-mac-cb...

Calculate into all of this the fact that Ohio's hockey club (currently ranked #4) will have a game at 7 pm as well. A good number of students will certainly be there rather than in the Convo.
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OhioCatFan
2/27/2020 11:39 AM
SBH wrote:expand_more
Inexcusable that you have not received a response from the AD.
I guess her first 100 day listening tour is over!

Edit: I did not receive a response from her on an email that was within the 100 days. Just saying . . .
Last Edited: 2/27/2020 11:41:16 AM by OhioCatFan
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Panda
2/27/2020 11:41 AM
The MAC office establishes this game in acccordance to the MAC/CBS coontract.This is not an OHIO move.
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CatsUp
2/27/2020 11:53 AM
FanInTheStands wrote:expand_more
But it’s better to be on tv. The more games on tv, the more money OU makes. And even if you have a problem with it it’s not Ohio’s fault, it’s the MAC’s fault. You better hope we don’t get good because Buffalo played almost all of their MAC weekend games on a Friday last year.
I'd really like to see the difference in revenue between having a Friday night game on TV versus a Saturday afternoon where a potentially decent crowd could be on hand given these factors:

1. Senior Day, including one of the best Bobcats we've had in a while in his last game in the Convo.

2. Kent, while not a rival, is always a good draw and usually a really good game.

3. Most high school games in the area are probably playing on Friday, and the ones that aren't may have been bounced from the tournament already.

4. The other games we'll be competing with for eyeballs that night: Harvard at Columbia (ESPNNews), Davidson at Dayton (ESPN2), Villanova at Creighton (FS1), loaded NBA schedule and a smattering of women's basketball games.

I don't know how much money we're making off of these, since CBS is only airing 12 football games and 12 basketball games a season. And all of that money is split between the conference members. It can't be THAT large.

https://getsomemaction.com/news/2019/7/22/football-mac-cb...

Calculate into all of this the fact that Ohio's hockey club (currently ranked #4) will have a game at 7 pm as well. A good number of students will certainly be there rather than in the Convo.
Not a knock on our outstanding club hockey team but this does kind of put a crimp in the argument that athletic events need to be “big time” for student interest.
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shabamon
2/27/2020 12:05 PM
CatsUp wrote:expand_more
But it’s better to be on tv. The more games on tv, the more money OU makes. And even if you have a problem with it it’s not Ohio’s fault, it’s the MAC’s fault. You better hope we don’t get good because Buffalo played almost all of their MAC weekend games on a Friday last year.
I'd really like to see the difference in revenue between having a Friday night game on TV versus a Saturday afternoon where a potentially decent crowd could be on hand given these factors:

1. Senior Day, including one of the best Bobcats we've had in a while in his last game in the Convo.

2. Kent, while not a rival, is always a good draw and usually a really good game.

3. Most high school games in the area are probably playing on Friday, and the ones that aren't may have been bounced from the tournament already.

4. The other games we'll be competing with for eyeballs that night: Harvard at Columbia (ESPNNews), Davidson at Dayton (ESPN2), Villanova at Creighton (FS1), loaded NBA schedule and a smattering of women's basketball games.

I don't know how much money we're making off of these, since CBS is only airing 12 football games and 12 basketball games a season. And all of that money is split between the conference members. It can't be THAT large.

https://getsomemaction.com/news/2019/7/22/football-mac-cb...

Calculate into all of this the fact that Ohio's hockey club (currently ranked #4) will have a game at 7 pm as well. A good number of students will certainly be there rather than in the Convo.
Not a knock on our outstanding club hockey team but this does kind of put a crimp in the argument that athletic events need to be “big time” for student interest.
Ohio hockey might as well be varsity. It's presented as if it is and to my eye, it appears to be high level competent players, and they do recruit.
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OU_Country
2/27/2020 12:10 PM
Panda wrote:expand_more
The MAC office establishes this game in acccordance to the MAC/CBS coontract.This is not an OHIO move.
But, Ohio is 1/12 of the MAC, so agreeing to this contract, in a way, is somewhat an Ohio move.
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GoCats105
2/27/2020 12:10 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Inexcusable that you have not received a response from the AD.
I guess her first 100 day listening tour is over!

Edit: I did not receive a response from her on an email that was within the 100 days. Just saying . . .
You guys realize that the ADs of colleges and universities get probably close to one hundred emails, maybe more, a day? And not just from fans? You can't blame them for not taking the time to read every single email they get from the fans.
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BillyTheCat
2/27/2020 12:25 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
But it’s better to be on tv. The more games on tv, the more money OU makes. And even if you have a problem with it it’s not Ohio’s fault, it’s the MAC’s fault. You better hope we don’t get good because Buffalo played almost all of their MAC weekend games on a Friday last year.
I'd really like to see the difference in revenue between having a Friday night game on TV versus a Saturday afternoon where a potentially decent crowd could be on hand given these factors:

1. Senior Day, including one of the best Bobcats we've had in a while in his last game in the Convo.

2. Kent, while not a rival, is always a good draw and usually a really good game.

3. Most high school games in the area are probably playing on Friday, and the ones that aren't may have been bounced from the tournament already.

4. The other games we'll be competing with for eyeballs that night: Harvard at Columbia (ESPNNews), Davidson at Dayton (ESPN2), Villanova at Creighton (FS1), loaded NBA schedule and a smattering of women's basketball games.

I don't know how much money we're making off of these, since CBS is only airing 12 football games and 12 basketball games a season. And all of that money is split between the conference members. It can't be THAT large.

https://getsomemaction.com/news/2019/7/22/football-mac-cb...

Calculate into all of this the fact that Ohio's hockey club (currently ranked #4) will have a game at 7 pm as well. A good number of students will certainly be there rather than in the Convo.
Not a knock on our outstanding club hockey team but this does kind of put a crimp in the argument that athletic events need to be “big time” for student interest.
Ohio hockey might as well be varsity. It's presented as if it is and to my eye, it appears to be high level competent players, and they do recruit.
The chasm between what Ohio Hockey is and real DI hockey, is amazing! Not to mention Hockey is the most expensive sport to have and maintain.
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shabamon
2/27/2020 12:28 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
But it’s better to be on tv. The more games on tv, the more money OU makes. And even if you have a problem with it it’s not Ohio’s fault, it’s the MAC’s fault. You better hope we don’t get good because Buffalo played almost all of their MAC weekend games on a Friday last year.
I'd really like to see the difference in revenue between having a Friday night game on TV versus a Saturday afternoon where a potentially decent crowd could be on hand given these factors:

1. Senior Day, including one of the best Bobcats we've had in a while in his last game in the Convo.

2. Kent, while not a rival, is always a good draw and usually a really good game.

3. Most high school games in the area are probably playing on Friday, and the ones that aren't may have been bounced from the tournament already.

4. The other games we'll be competing with for eyeballs that night: Harvard at Columbia (ESPNNews), Davidson at Dayton (ESPN2), Villanova at Creighton (FS1), loaded NBA schedule and a smattering of women's basketball games.

I don't know how much money we're making off of these, since CBS is only airing 12 football games and 12 basketball games a season. And all of that money is split between the conference members. It can't be THAT large.

https://getsomemaction.com/news/2019/7/22/football-mac-cb...

Calculate into all of this the fact that Ohio's hockey club (currently ranked #4) will have a game at 7 pm as well. A good number of students will certainly be there rather than in the Convo.
Not a knock on our outstanding club hockey team but this does kind of put a crimp in the argument that athletic events need to be “big time” for student interest.
Ohio hockey might as well be varsity. It's presented as if it is and to my eye, it appears to be high level competent players, and they do recruit.
The chasm between what Ohio Hockey is and real DI hockey, is amazing! Not to mention Hockey is the most expensive sport to have and maintain.
Oh for sure, we would get crushed by any D1 varsity team. I mean to say that average fans and students might put our club team on the same playing field as our varsity teams, and not think of hockey as second rate to basketball.
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rpbobcat
2/27/2020 12:38 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
You guys realize that the ADs of colleges and universities get probably close to one hundred emails, maybe more, a day? And not just from fans? You can't blame them for not taking the time to read every single email they get from the fans.
I disagree.

If not her personally,someone in her office should be reading every email sent to her and sending out at least an "acknowledgement".

"Relevant" emails could then be given to her to read and responded to.
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