Michigan’s cases went up by 300% yesterday, New York’s cases went up 115% and New Jersey’s (where we have an insider who said it is a hoax to get federal money) cases went up 165% yesterday. If we all stay home and follow the guidelines for 14 days most that are sick will be able to get tested and quarantine and we can stop the exponential spreading of the virus.
Considering we went months without testing, every day that we do test will show tremendous growth in this virus. With global travel, there is no way this virus just showed up here in the past month. When this is all over many deaths will be able to be traced back to this virus and our lack of testing and action.
Just to be clear, even with testing the cases would have come. Even with testing, the cases had to get to a certain level before people would take it seriously, and accept the restrictions necessary to stop it. Even with testing, how are you going to stop the stupidity of teens partying in mass groups for Spring Break, and then bringing the cases back and infecting many communities across the country?
Yes, we could have handled this much better, but in the end, sadly, the result would have been very much the same. It had to be. I think it was Italy, combined with the fact that our cases were ten days behind there that was the wake up call to all American, not just the politicians.
The key is where we go from here. Can we stop the stupidity? Can we maintain social distances and keep the economy running? Can we wash our hands often enough, and learn to not touch our mouth, nose, and eyes? Can we build additional hospitals where needed, fast enough to keep the deaths in the 1-2% range instead of 6-10%?
What we do from here out is much, much more important that what we have done to this point. We need to cut that partisan hate and bickering, and work together. We need to stop the ageist animosity, too. We CAN defeat this, but only if we work together.
No LC had we tested earlier, we could have identified the hot spots, we could have implemented social distancing earlier. What we should all do is be still for 20 days and the sick will emerge, there are still states like Oklahoma who are pretty lax. Every president has a failure and this was Trump’s, the testing was not perfect, just like the transcripts. What happened in Washington was a travesty, seven first responders got it due to a lack of testing and when they went to take patients from the nursing home to the emergency room, they infected others. 3m filled a 100 million mask order to Taiwan because trump failed to implement his emergency production powers to get mask for American health care workers, companies tried to 3D print the mask and they were sued by the likes of 3m. Let’s pray that it does not get much worst. Italy warned us and we thought we were far superior to them. Crazy
I guess we will have to disagree, allen. Had the testing been better, yes, it would have spread slower. However, had it spread slower, people wouldn't agree to social distancing. Maybe there would have been few enough cases that we would have tried to have March Madness, but then we'd be right back where we are now. We would ultimately have needed to get to the same point before we got the same result, and there are a lot of possible paths we could have taken to get here.
If you question my point, think back to Feb. 1, when they cancelled the Miami-CMU game. Suppose that, instead, they had cancelled the entire rest of the basketball season at that point. Would that have been accepted? Hardly. People would have thought it was a crazy over-reaction. It took a certain number of cases, and a certain amount of time passing, and a certain amount of awareness before it became possible.
In any case, it's not clear that even now social distancing is going to be enough, since young people don't agree with it. If the young people don't comply, it can't work. The US isn't like some of the dictatorships. If people don't comply, there is not a lot we can do about it.
In my opinion, since a vaccine will not be available for 18 months, in the long run, approximately the same number of people will get this, sooner or later, regardless of what we do, and regardless of what we might have done. The only real question is whether the cases will come so fast that they overwhelm the hospital system, in which case more people will die than should have died. Since we can still prevent that, nothing we have done to this point critically changes what happens in the future.
As I posted on another thread, on a brighter note, a drug that the Chinese announced success with back in early February has been tested in France, and it worked there, too, in a small case study. The drug, chloroquine, is a 20 year old malaria drug that is now available as a generic, and which can easily and quickly manufactured in quantity. This is exciting because it could be given inexpensively to anyone that tests positive. Even better, it might turn out to also be useful to give it prophylactically to anyone with known exposure, such as the front line medical staff, or anyone with a known exposure even before they show symptoms.
Last Edited: 3/21/2020 4:59:26 PM by L.C.