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Topic: Worst Case Scenario: No 2020-2021 Season
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FearLeon
7/11/2020 3:33 PM
Don't even want to think about it, but probably worth a conversation. What happens if there is no 2020-2021 college basketball season? Does this mean we've seen the last of Preston and BVP in a Bobcat uniform? Never thought we'd get to the point where this topic could be a real possibility, but here we are.
Last Edited: 7/11/2020 3:34:47 PM by FearLeon
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Alan Swank
7/11/2020 6:26 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
Don't even want to think about it, but probably worth a conversation. What happens if there is no 2020-2021 college basketball season? Does this mean we've seen the last of Preston and BVP in a Bobcat uniform? Never thought we'd get to the point where this topic could be a real possibility, but here we are.
Preston is just a junior and BVP a senior with two more years to play. No reason to believe they won't be back in 21-22.
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FearLeon
7/12/2020 5:44 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Don't even want to think about it, but probably worth a conversation. What happens if there is no 2020-2021 college basketball season? Does this mean we've seen the last of Preston and BVP in a Bobcat uniform? Never thought we'd get to the point where this topic could be a real possibility, but here we are.
Preston is just a junior and BVP a senior with two more years to play. No reason to believe they won't be back in 21-22.
Yep....well aware of how many years they have left to play. My concern is no hoops for a year and the Power 5's come calling.
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Andrew Ruck
7/14/2020 2:27 PM
You shut your mouth.
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Donuts
7/14/2020 3:02 PM
There's a lot more layers to all of this losing a season of football and basketball than just two players. We are talking about a crushed athletic program and city of Athens in general.
Last Edited: 7/14/2020 3:02:21 PM by Donuts
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OU_Country
7/14/2020 3:18 PM
Donuts wrote:expand_more
There's a lot more layers to all of this losing a season of football and basketball than just two players. We are talking about a crushed athletic program and city of Athens in general.
And crushed colleges, and college athletics in general. Because if there's not a basketball season, things are pretty bad, which means all classes are probably online.
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Jeff McKinney
7/14/2020 7:46 PM
That's why I'm not getting involved very much in discussions about specific sports issues. What we are really dealing with is trying to retain viable athletics functions at universities at all.

There's no guarantee that Division I sports, especially at the Group of 5 level, will continue at all in its present form.
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Alan Swank
7/14/2020 9:32 PM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
That's why I'm not getting involved very much in discussions about specific sports issues. What we are really dealing with is trying to retain viable athletics functions at universities at all.

There's no guarantee that Division I sports, especially at the Group of 5 level, will continue at all in its present form.
Which raises an interesting point. Are athletics at the D 1 level essential to the college experince? I went to a D 3 school, went to some football games and most of the basketball games and had a great time and graduated in 4 years.
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BillyTheCat
7/15/2020 11:03 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
That's why I'm not getting involved very much in discussions about specific sports issues. What we are really dealing with is trying to retain viable athletics functions at universities at all.

There's no guarantee that Division I sports, especially at the Group of 5 level, will continue at all in its present form.
Which raises an interesting point. Are athletics at the D 1 level essential to the college experince? I went to a D 3 school, went to some football games and most of the basketball games and had a great time and graduated in 4 years.
I think our own student attendance answers that question.
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OUVan
7/15/2020 7:25 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
That's why I'm not getting involved very much in discussions about specific sports issues. What we are really dealing with is trying to retain viable athletics functions at universities at all.

There's no guarantee that Division I sports, especially at the Group of 5 level, will continue at all in its present form.
Which raises an interesting point. Are athletics at the D 1 level essential to the college experince? I went to a D 3 school, went to some football games and most of the basketball games and had a great time and graduated in 4 years.
It was a huge part of my college experience. I think it's plays a large factor in alumni keeping an attachment to their school as well. That being said glee clubs used to be a big part of college life. The fraternity system no longer has the importance it once did. Life is evolving constantly. But this may be more than the de-emphasis of college athletics. We may be seeing the de-emphasis of college life entirely. I sure hope not because I learned more in my time in Athens outside the classroom than I did in the classroom.
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Pataskala
7/16/2020 12:34 PM
OUVan wrote:expand_more
That's why I'm not getting involved very much in discussions about specific sports issues. What we are really dealing with is trying to retain viable athletics functions at universities at all.

There's no guarantee that Division I sports, especially at the Group of 5 level, will continue at all in its present form.
Which raises an interesting point. Are athletics at the D 1 level essential to the college experince? I went to a D 3 school, went to some football games and most of the basketball games and had a great time and graduated in 4 years.
It was a huge part of my college experience. I think it's plays a large factor in alumni keeping an attachment to their school as well. That being said glee clubs used to be a big part of college life. The fraternity system no longer has the importance it once did. Life is evolving constantly. But this may be more than the de-emphasis of college athletics. We may be seeing the de-emphasis of college life entirely. I sure hope not because I learned more in my time in Athens outside the classroom than I did in the classroom.
The major sports are becoming less a part of the college experience at the "P" schools because so few kids are allowed at games. About 95% of fans in the stands at football games are non-students. It's about the same for b-ball. Mid-major schools are a bit different because admission is cheap or even free. In the Saturday football games I've attended the student section is usually pretty full until after halftime. But I don't think a lot of kids would miss it if football or b-ball were gone. They have other things to do and have easy access to them.
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Alan Swank
7/16/2020 4:41 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
That's why I'm not getting involved very much in discussions about specific sports issues. What we are really dealing with is trying to retain viable athletics functions at universities at all.

There's no guarantee that Division I sports, especially at the Group of 5 level, will continue at all in its present form.
Which raises an interesting point. Are athletics at the D 1 level essential to the college experince? I went to a D 3 school, went to some football games and most of the basketball games and had a great time and graduated in 4 years.
It was a huge part of my college experience. I think it's plays a large factor in alumni keeping an attachment to their school as well. That being said glee clubs used to be a big part of college life. The fraternity system no longer has the importance it once did. Life is evolving constantly. But this may be more than the de-emphasis of college athletics. We may be seeing the de-emphasis of college life entirely. I sure hope not because I learned more in my time in Athens outside the classroom than I did in the classroom.
The major sports are becoming less a part of the college experience at the "P" schools because so few kids are allowed at games. About 95% of fans in the stands at football games are non-students. It's about the same for b-ball. Mid-major schools are a bit different because admission is cheap or even free. In the Saturday football games I've attended the student section is usually pretty full until after halftime. But I don't think a lot of kids would miss it if football or b-ball were gone. They have other things to do and have easy access to them.
Not sure where you're getting your 95% nunber from but at tosu and Michigan, around 20% of the tickets are student tickets.
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SVAC83
7/16/2020 8:01 PM
Penn state sells almost 1/3 of the stadium to student season tickets plus there are other students in the stadium.
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rpbobcat
7/27/2020 6:54 AM
There's an interesting article in today's The Record by John Marshall of the AP about the 2020-2021 college basketball season.

It won't link,but is on apnews.com
Last Edited: 7/27/2020 6:54:36 AM by rpbobcat
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berniebobcat
7/27/2020 11:12 AM
The article states that schools have started voluntary basketball workouts. Does anybody have any feedback about what is happening with our guys?
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BillyTheCat
7/30/2020 3:28 PM
berniebobcat wrote:expand_more
The article states that schools have started voluntary basketball workouts. Does anybody have any feedback about what is happening with our guys?
Entire department was shut down thanks to two sports. OHIO basketball is back to individual workouts
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OUVan
8/5/2020 9:28 AM
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rpbobcat
8/5/2020 3:22 PM
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Just saw that earlier today the NCAA canceled all Fall Championships for DIII sports.
Last Edited: 8/5/2020 3:23:21 PM by rpbobcat
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rpbobcat
8/6/2020 6:42 AM
DII President's Council voted to cancel their Fall Championships.

That wasn't unexpected since as of yesterday 11 of the 23 DII conferecnes had
already canceled their Fall seasons.
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FearLeon
8/8/2020 11:00 AM
Well...now that the MAC football season is history...if there is no college football in the fall (which is very likely), how is college basketball going to start up January 1st? So is anyone else concerned that after Preston and BVP put in another academic year at OHIO and two seasons of no March tournament action, that these guys might look to move onto a power five conference school for the 2021-2022 season? I can't be the only one thinking of this dreaded possibility.
Last Edited: 8/8/2020 11:03:13 AM by FearLeon
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RSBobcat
8/9/2020 1:04 AM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
Well...now that the MAC football season is history...if there is no college football in the fall (which is very likely), how is college basketball going to start up January 1st? So is anyone else concerned that after Preston and BVP put in another academic year at OHIO and two seasons of no March tournament action, that these guys might look to move onto a power five conference school for the 2021-2022 season? I can't be the only one thinking of this dreaded possibility.
Where they gonna go? The potential pool of same situation type players could be Huge....
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The Optimist
8/9/2020 4:26 PM
RSBobcat wrote:expand_more
Well...now that the MAC football season is history...if there is no college football in the fall (which is very likely), how is college basketball going to start up January 1st? So is anyone else concerned that after Preston and BVP put in another academic year at OHIO and two seasons of no March tournament action, that these guys might look to move onto a power five conference school for the 2021-2022 season? I can't be the only one thinking of this dreaded possibility.
Where they gonna go? The potential pool of same situation type players could be Huge....
My first thought was they could play in Europe, however since COVID started the racists in Europe have become xenophobic
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OUVan
8/20/2020 8:04 AM
I'd say with Notre Dame and UNC having to shut down practices that even the Southern conferences are going to end up shutting down.

And based on what my buddy just told me I'm thinking schools might end up shutting down dorms. He dropped off his freshman daughter (17) at Coastal Carolina on Saturday. Two of her suitemates showed up with colds. Two others caught colds when they got there. All six of the suitemates went to a bar Saturday night. His daughter started getting congestion and a bad sinus headache on Tuesday night. The other girls who were sick didn't go to the campus clinic but she is coming off of brain surgery (benign tumor) this past Spring and didn't want to take any chances so she went to get it checked out. They then test her for COVID and tell her the results won't be back for several days and in the meantime she is to be quarantined. She can't go back to her room and all her suitemates are now quarantined in the suite for 14 days. They have off-campus apartments set up for anyone that shows up at the clinic with symptoms. And even if her test comes back negative she still has to stay quarantined as do they.

Now all of that makes sense but essentially once word gets out of this protocol none of the kids is going to go to the clinic. Her suitemates are pissed at her for going in the first place. And my buddy is furious at the school for a couple of steps the school took after she went to the clinic. After going to the clinic they told her she would get an email with instructions on where to go. Four hours later she got an email. Thankfully she had a car she could sit in because the school just left a 17 year old girl homeless for four hours on her own. And to compound that they planned to put her in a room with two other girls who had already tested positive. Needless to say that didn't go over too well. He ended up getting her a hotel room instead. But I'm guessing this scenario is playing out all over the country.
Last Edited: 8/20/2020 8:13:36 AM by OUVan
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