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Posted: 12/9/2020 9:47 AM

Use this thread to talk about anything game-related. 

Date: December 10th, 2020 2:00 PM

Opponent: Purdue Northwest  (0-1)

Site: Convocation Center

TV: None

Radio: Ohio Radio or TuneIn Radio

Webcast: TBD

Purdue Northwest statistics and roster

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Posted: 12/9/2020 9:57 AM
I legit have no idea who Purdue Northwest is but I am waiting for McKinney to tell us all about them and how formidable of an opponent they are.
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Posted: 12/9/2020 10:16 AM
They lost 88-67 in an exhibition game against Bowling Green.
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Posted: 12/9/2020 10:24 AM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
I legit have no idea who Purdue Northwest is but I am waiting for McKinney to tell us all about them and how formidable of an opponent they are.
They have a player named Joan.
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Posted: 12/9/2020 10:28 AM
The campus is pretty much due north of Purdue instead of northwest, which could be misleading.
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Posted: 12/9/2020 11:01 AM
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I legit have no idea who Purdue Northwest is but I am waiting for McKinney to tell us all about them and how formidable of an opponent they are.
They have a player named Joan.
He's from Spain so it might be pronounced Hoan?

They also have kids from Calif and Arizona, so it apparently isn't just a community college setup.

I had never heard of them either but they apparently used to be Purdue Calumet, which has been around since WWII.

They're near the Westville prison, so it sounds like a tough town.
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Posted: 12/9/2020 11:06 AM
OUVan wrote:expand_more
I legit have no idea who Purdue Northwest is but I am waiting for McKinney to tell us all about them and how formidable of an opponent they are.
They have a player named Joan.
And their coach’s name is Boomer.
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Posted: 12/9/2020 11:40 AM
UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
They lost 88-67 in an exhibition game against Bowling Green.
This was a scheduled game and not just and exhibition. Bowling Green didn't crush them they way Ohio destroyed CSU or the way Ohio normally destroys a non-D1 opponent.

So, I'm looking at Massey's ratings. There is still a lot of weight given to last year in these ratings which in most years phases out until about New Year's when most computer systems are evaluating from this year's games data alone. With the lack of non-conference games this year, I don't know that it will go away entirely at all this year but in a situation like this a system like Massey is still about the best resource that we have. His ratings rate all of college basketball. This not only includes all three divisions of the NCAA and both NAIA divisions but several JUCO only divisions and Canadian colleges. There are more than 2000 total.

He has Ohio #88. We were one of the very youngest teams in the country and may have improved more with respect to last than the vast majority of teams in D1 so last year being factored may be dragging us down. I think we are probably about #60 but we have to wait and see. During loss at Illinois Ohio played very well but still lost and an historic 40-0 run is impressive against anyone. But COVID has caused the wins to not exactly be murderers row.

Cleveland St. D1 320/357 and 336 overall
NC A&T D1 331/357 and 352 overall
Chicago St. 356/357 and 545 overall
MVSU 357/357 and 693 overall

Those who know anything about statistics know what a skinny tail of a normal bell curve distribution looks like. Most teams are clustered together near the middle but out in the skinning tail are the outliers whose ability is well spaced out from their closest neighbors in ability. Cleveland State is a bad Division 1 basketball team but good enough that they are on the low end of the cluster in the middle. Massey thinks that only championship contenders in other divisions are better than them. With Chicago St. and Mississippi Valley State this is not the case and they would look more at home in another division.

So where is Purdue Northwest? Massey says #511 overall. This means that we made a clear upgrade from MVSU if that is right. I'm not going to go traditional McKinney here. This is still a team Ohio should easily defeat but for a non-D1 opponent they are apparently actually pretty good.
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Posted: 12/9/2020 12:51 PM
They have a lot of pride
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Posted: 12/9/2020 5:47 PM
OUVan wrote:expand_more
They have a player named Joan.
Do they have a boy named Sue?
Last Edited: 12/9/2020 5:50:08 PM by stub
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Posted: 12/10/2020 8:38 AM
No web stream today?
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Posted: 12/10/2020 9:33 AM
I hope we see a stream. Working from home gets really boring by Thursday.
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Posted: 12/10/2020 9:39 AM
The team tweeted no video today. Too short of notice to assemble a crew.
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Posted: 12/10/2020 1:44 PM
Agree about working from home being boring by Thursday. I'm hoping to alleviate that this afternoon by listening to the game here: http://www.wxtq.com/music /
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Posted: 12/10/2020 1:57 PM
Roderick sitting out today. Sounds precautionary. Towns to start in his place.
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Posted: 12/10/2020 2:46 PM
Sounds like they underestimated this team
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Posted: 12/10/2020 2:51 PM
Good learning moment! Let’s see how the react. 1-11 from 3 and 56% from the line doesn’t help. These guys gave BG a better game than the final score indicates.
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Posted: 12/10/2020 3:01 PM
I blame McKinney for failing to warn us.
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Posted: 12/10/2020 3:30 PM
Struggling today against this squad is probably the best thing that could happen to Ohio. With all of the national attention the past two weeks, maybe a little bit went to their heads. Boals will tell them how much work needs to be done moving forward. On the bright side, Billy Hahn would have definitely lost this game.
Last Edited: 12/10/2020 3:54:37 PM by FearLeon
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Posted: 12/10/2020 3:57 PM
Another solid game from JP with 22, 11 and 3 and a JP-like line from BVP with 13-6-7.

JP 10 of 15 from floor, 2 of 4 from three, if he can keep dishing and shooting at those percentages the attention is going to stick around all season.
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Posted: 12/10/2020 3:59 PM
And Wilson 17 & 13, continue to love his fit and production.
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Posted: 12/10/2020 4:02 PM
I can't imagine Mississippi Valley giving us a game like that.
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Posted: 12/10/2020 4:10 PM
BVP 1 of 7 from 3 today to go to 8 for 30 on the season. He was 3 for 5 from 2. Should he keep taking an average of six three point shots per game? I thought that at the end of last season his low post development was excellent. I like him shooting the three, but I think he should get back to more shots from down low.
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Posted: 12/10/2020 6:17 PM
On the other hand, BVP, who really struggled at the line last year, is at 81% (9 of 11) this year.

The team, unfortunately, needs to improve upon its 61% from the line. The 2 PGs are a combined 8 of 21 - JP 6/12 and Miles B. 2/9.
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Posted: 12/10/2020 7:00 PM
GroverBall wrote:expand_more
BVP 1 of 7 from 3 today to go to 8 for 30 on the season. He was 3 for 5 from 2. Should he keep taking an average of six three point shots per game? I thought that at the end of last season his low post development was excellent. I like him shooting the three, but I think he should get back to more shots from down low.
Do not forget you have Wilson in the paint. Most of BVP’s points came from mid range getting to the paint or dumping to Wilson.
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