I agree with you about TK, but not Carter. Hes better than you're giving him credit for. Oats said the best two inside players in the MAC were Perkins and Carter.

TK didnt improve his outside shooting enough to be an effective guard in the MAC. Add to that an unwillingness to respond consistently to coaching, and I dont see this as a major loss.

I agree we should be looking at those lists and maybe make some offers, but we also have to remember that while we may not be Ivy League, we do have more stringent academic standards than some other MAC schools. It's not just a matter of finding a kid who will be good on the court in Boals' system, they also have to be satisfactory off the court. Buffalo, probably the strongest academic school in the MAC, has been able to pull it off...can Ohio? Part of this is institutional support....will the President and Deans give the coaches leeway to recruit the players we need to be competitive in the MAC?

I thought for a second Cleveland Browns defensive lineman Emmanuel Ogbah had pulled a 21 Jump Street and was playing college basketball...

To quote Gene Hackman...

"I hope you will support who we are...not who we are not"

This made me laugh really hard.

I agree Jeff. Really don't want to lose Carter. Think he can fit into Boal's style. TK not so much. Tk didn't show me any improvement this year.
As for recruitment, Boal's has know this job "may" be open for 2 years. "Probably" be open for a year. He wanted the job when Saul landed it and really wanted this time. No doubt in my mind he has for the last year keep a book on who stays and who is shown the door . Also who to recruit.
Bottom line. I suspect Boal's is WAY ahead of a coach that we could of hired that would have required a Google to see who he was.

The funny thing is you really believe you know what Boals is thinking.

Willing to bet someone is in Carter’s ear and he’s showing loyalty to Saul, but he’s a 2 for 1 guy transferring would be silly, and his ability to go up in level would be questionable. He would flourish under Boals and the athleticism that will be brought in when Boals gets a full year to recruit. His staff is all Ohio guys with great relationships with OHIO coaches. Kirk, well, “we wish you the best in your future endeavors”.

I have a feeling that Jason Preston might transfer as well

His twitter would suggest otherwise

I think BVP would transfer before him.

For a bad team, like we were, TK was useful. We had few options and he was one of them.
However for a new coach, trying to build a winner— I doubt a PG, or tiny SG who can’t shoot, doesn’t pass, doesn’t make others around them better, is turnover prone, and can’t shoot free throws is a foundational piece for this team, or any team. He’s doing JB a favor. This is the definition of addition by subtraction.
As for a James, he looked decent in his limited minutes, but if you can’t get minutes for a bottom tier team with the 2 guys ahead of you out for the year, then maybe that’s what SP thought about that recruiting selection? And finally, if Carter would rather sit 2 of his first 4 years in college, then he’s telling you he’s not a foundational piece to a winning team either and must have enjoyed the losing? Baffles me how you can be the highest paid staff member of large historically successful organization, you don’t even make it to Cleveland two years straight and the future not looking much brighter and you’re mad that the boss isn’t willing to throw a couple more million bucks at the problem. Hope these guys aren’t business majors cause that isn’t how it works in real life guys. I’ve always thought this was a scrape and rebuild vs a remodel and I’m looking like that assumption may be accurate.