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FJC31
3/20/2025 10:28 PM
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Why do we "need" to add 2 bigs exactly? At any time there's only 2 on the floor, and Boals prefers to play a 4 out, 1 in, so only 1 on the floor at a time.

Split the difference and say 1.5*40 minutes is 60 minutes a game for "bigs".

We assume we're adding one. We already have Hadaway, Kuany, Evans and quasi Mobley. That's 5.

If Hadaway is playing 28 minutes a night. Incoming big is a starter who plays 20-22 minutes. That only leaves 10-12 minutes for the bench. I think Kuany and Evans can fill that just fine.

Do we really need a 6th big so 4 bench guys can fight over 12 or so minutes a night? Basically ensuring 2 of them never see the floor.
Because everyone you listed outside of Hadaway is unproven.
So we're just assuming no players will ever go from little playing time to some playing time? What if Kuany was good enough to play last year but didn't bc of the visa/redshirt issues? What if Evans actually realizes some of his potential and improves? We don't even need BOTH of them to contribute a ton of minutes. Either both play a little or one or the other emerges as our 3rd big off the bench.

If you're recruiting a 6th big you might as well cut Kuany and Evans now.

And if you're going to say a guy better play and contribute as a freshman or they're worth cutting, then expect to never recruit another HS big ever again.

Which means you better be willing to break out your non-existent burrito buggy NIL to sign all those portal bigs we will be relying on every year.

If one or either gives us any quality minutes next year we don't "need" another big at all. Just not enough minutes to go around IMO.
There’s 95 total minutes of playing time at this level between Evans, Kuany, and Mosley. Better to have and not need than to need and not have.
Last Edited: 3/20/2025 10:28:31 PM by FJC31
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
3/21/2025 8:10 AM
GraffZ06 wrote:expand_more
Incoming big is a starter who plays 20-22 minutes. That only leaves 10-12 minutes for the bench. I think Kuany and Evans can fill that just fine. [/QUOTE]My man, your entire point here relies on a massive assumption that we get an "incoming big who is a starter and plays 20-22 minutes per game." Given that, wouldn't you feel better getting two shots at finding that guy rather than one?

Which means you better be willing to break out your non-existent burrito buggy NIL to sign all those portal bigs we will be relying on every year.
You're taking getting a new starter from the portal as a given and then a post later insisting we can't rely on the portal for bigs because of our lack of NIL money, and we need to be developing young bigs.


So we're just assuming no players will ever go from little playing time to some playing time? What if Kuany was good enough to play last year but didn't bc of the visa/redshirt issues? What if Evans actually realizes some of his potential and improves? We don't even need BOTH of them to contribute a ton of minutes. Either both play a little or one or the other emerges as our 3rd big off the bench.
Give me the list of 5s that Boals has brought in as freshman that contributed at a starter level, please.

In other words, nobody is assuming we won't be able to develop young bigs. But we are hedging against it. Why? Boals' track record doing so. Notably, you're also massively hedging against it. Because even you -- the person here most optimistic about our young bigs -- recognize neither should be expected to be a starter yet.

If you're recruiting a 6th big you might as well cut Kuany and Evans now.
Personally, I think we should cut Evans now. I've asked you before: can you find a comp for a big with rate stats like Evans' becoming a contributor the next season? What about within 3 seasons?


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Just not enough minutes to go around IMO.
Yes, because you made up a starter and inserted him into the rotation. And that's the rub here -- the rest of us are being completely logical about Boals' track record with bigs and recognizing you don't just get to snap your fingers and have a starting 5, so rather than just assume it'll happen, we're suggesting that you might want to hedge a bit and bring in multiple guys who might be able to fill that need.
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3/21/2025 8:45 AM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
My man, your entire point here relies on a massive assumption that we get an "incoming big who is a starter and plays 20-22 minutes per game." Given that, wouldn't you feel better getting two shots at finding that guy rather than one?
+1

Getting two somewhat proven tall guys (the North Dakota and South Carolina St. portal guys come to mind) that don't automatically mean backing up a Brinks truck of NIL $$ should be in no way impossible to pull off.

Some of the mid-majors on the first day of the dance yesterday had bigs who went toe-to-toe vs power conference dudes and held their own just fine. It can be done.
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FJC31
3/21/2025 8:50 AM
Quite a few new names followed overnight:

Malek Gomma, Seattle - 6'8 245
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/...

Per 40: 10ppg, 10rpg, 1bpg
Per 100: 15ppg, 14rpg, 1bpg

Santiago Trouet, San Diego - 6'10 218
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/...

Per 40: 14ppg, 11rpg, 1bpg
Per 100: 19ppg 14rpg, 2bpg

Keeyan Itejere, NKY - 6'9 220
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/...

Per 40: 11ppg, 8rpg, 2bpg
Per 100: 16ppg, 12rpg, 4bpg,

Julius Mims, Idaho - 6'9 190
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/...

Couldn't find BB reference page.

KyeRon Lindsey, Murray State - 6'8 220
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/...

Per 40: 17ppg, 11rpg, 2bpg
Per 100: 26ppg, 17rpg, 3bpg

Noah Amenhauser, Coastal Carolina - 7'2 255
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/...

Per 40: 19ppg, 11rpg, 1bpg
Per 100: 30ppg, 17rpg, 2bpg

Most of these guys have already been to 2-3 schools, so I think that debunks our recruiting philosophy of not targeting guys who have transferred a lot.
Last Edited: 3/21/2025 8:51:03 AM by FJC31
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Cats5
3/21/2025 9:40 AM
FJC31 wrote:expand_more
Quite a few new names followed overnight:

Malek Gomma, Seattle - 6'8 245
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/...

Per 40: 10ppg, 10rpg, 1bpg
Per 100: 15ppg, 14rpg, 1bpg

Santiago Trouet, San Diego - 6'10 218
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/...

Per 40: 14ppg, 11rpg, 1bpg
Per 100: 19ppg 14rpg, 2bpg

Keeyan Itejere, NKY - 6'9 220
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/...

Per 40: 11ppg, 8rpg, 2bpg
Per 100: 16ppg, 12rpg, 4bpg,

Julius Mims, Idaho - 6'9 190
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/...

Couldn't find BB reference page.

KyeRon Lindsey, Murray State - 6'8 220
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/...

Per 40: 17ppg, 11rpg, 2bpg
Per 100: 26ppg, 17rpg, 3bpg

Noah Amenhauser, Coastal Carolina - 7'2 255
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/...

Per 40: 19ppg, 11rpg, 1bpg
Per 100: 30ppg, 17rpg, 2bpg

Most of these guys have already been to 2-3 schools, so I think that debunks our recruiting philosophy of not targeting guys who have transferred a lot.
Not a single one under 6'8. Guess we're focusing on what we need lol
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
3/21/2025 10:57 AM
FJC31 wrote:expand_more
Most of these guys have already been to 2-3 schools, so I think that debunks our recruiting philosophy of not targeting guys who have transferred a lot.
Yep. A handful of people here created a retroactive narrative to make sense of Boals' recruiting strategy and try to position the last two years' big man struggles as part of a grand strategy.

We like to tell ourselves stories that Akron has players we would never take academically, that we can't compete for bigs in the portal, that because we can't compete for bigs in the portal, we're focusing instead on developing high school bigs.

It's all conjecture though, and the reality is that Boals' and co seem to go after tons of bigs in the portal, go after multi-transfer guys (Pavs last year, a bunch on this list), and do not actually have a track record of developing young bigs relative to bringing in transfers at the 5.
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shabamon
3/21/2025 11:10 AM
We have expressed interest in Will Aljancic from Findlay. Led them in scoring and rebounding as a 6-6 wing.

https://x.com/ThePortalReport/status/1903098787217702921

Though we have mid-sized wings coming in as freshmen, we were really lacking in mid-sized wings this past season and it's not ideal to rely on true freshmen for that profile.
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FJC31
3/21/2025 1:46 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
We have expressed interest in Will Aljancic from Findlay. Led them in scoring and rebounding as a 6-6 wing.

https://x.com/ThePortalReport/status/1903098787217702921

Though we have mid-sized wings coming in as freshmen, we were really lacking in mid-sized wings this past season and it's not ideal to rely on true freshmen for that profile.
Makes you wonder when the next domino falls from our current roster and enters the portal.
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FearLeon
3/21/2025 1:49 PM
FJC31 wrote:expand_more
We have expressed interest in Will Aljancic from Findlay. Led them in scoring and rebounding as a 6-6 wing.

https://x.com/ThePortalReport/status/1903098787217702921

Though we have mid-sized wings coming in as freshmen, we were really lacking in mid-sized wings this past season and it's not ideal to rely on true freshmen for that profile.
Makes you wonder when the next domino falls from our current roster and enters the portal.
If we get this guy....then it has to be either Nicol or Sheldon next. Shocked one of them hasn't hit the portal already.
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FJC31
3/21/2025 2:33 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
Most of these guys have already been to 2-3 schools, so I think that debunks our recruiting philosophy of not targeting guys who have transferred a lot.
Yep. A handful of people here created a retroactive narrative to make sense of Boals' recruiting strategy and try to position the last two years' big man struggles as part of a grand strategy.

We like to tell ourselves stories that Akron has players we would never take academically, that we can't compete for bigs in the portal, that because we can't compete for bigs in the portal, we're focusing instead on developing high school bigs.

It's all conjecture though, and the reality is that Boals' and co seem to go after tons of bigs in the portal, go after multi-transfer guys (Pavs last year, a bunch on this list), and do not actually have a track record of developing young bigs relative to bringing in transfers at the 5.
Yea, I tend to think that was more of a justification attempt in relation to the current roster build. It'd be self-sabotage by Boals and staff by having the above unnecessary prerequisites to improving the team.

Austin Peay landed what appears to be two of the better lower level bigs from D3 and NAIA. Personal opinion, this should be our worst case rather than trying to develop our own.

With no more AJC as a security blanket for a makeshift 5, there's a clear path to a starting opportunity for any prospective big(s). We need to finally reel in some of the portal bigs.
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3/21/2025 6:13 PM
FJC31 wrote:expand_more
Most of these guys have already been to 2-3 schools, so I think that debunks our recruiting philosophy of not targeting guys who have transferred a lot.
Yep. A handful of people here created a retroactive narrative to make sense of Boals' recruiting strategy and try to position the last two years' big man struggles as part of a grand strategy.

We like to tell ourselves stories that Akron has players we would never take academically, that we can't compete for bigs in the portal, that because we can't compete for bigs in the portal, we're focusing instead on developing high school bigs.

It's all conjecture though, and the reality is that Boals' and co seem to go after tons of bigs in the portal, go after multi-transfer guys (Pavs last year, a bunch on this list), and do not actually have a track record of developing young bigs relative to bringing in transfers at the 5.
Yea, I tend to think that was more of a justification attempt in relation to the current roster build. It'd be self-sabotage by Boals and staff by having the above unnecessary prerequisites to improving the team.

Austin Peay landed what appears to be two of the better lower level bigs from D3 and NAIA. Personal opinion, this should be our worst case rather than trying to develop our own.

With no more AJC as a security blanket for a makeshift 5, there's a clear path to a starting opportunity for any prospective big(s). We need to finally reel in some of the portal bigs.
We can do better than the pair APSU got.
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FJC31
3/22/2025 12:16 PM
greencat wrote:expand_more
Most of these guys have already been to 2-3 schools, so I think that debunks our recruiting philosophy of not targeting guys who have transferred a lot.
Yep. A handful of people here created a retroactive narrative to make sense of Boals' recruiting strategy and try to position the last two years' big man struggles as part of a grand strategy.

We like to tell ourselves stories that Akron has players we would never take academically, that we can't compete for bigs in the portal, that because we can't compete for bigs in the portal, we're focusing instead on developing high school bigs.

It's all conjecture though, and the reality is that Boals' and co seem to go after tons of bigs in the portal, go after multi-transfer guys (Pavs last year, a bunch on this list), and do not actually have a track record of developing young bigs relative to bringing in transfers at the 5.
Yea, I tend to think that was more of a justification attempt in relation to the current roster build. It'd be self-sabotage by Boals and staff by having the above unnecessary prerequisites to improving the team.

Austin Peay landed what appears to be two of the better lower level bigs from D3 and NAIA. Personal opinion, this should be our worst case rather than trying to develop our own.

With no more AJC as a security blanket for a makeshift 5, there's a clear path to a starting opportunity for any prospective big(s). We need to finally reel in some of the portal bigs.
We can do better than the pair APSU got.
We tell ourselves this, but remains to be seen.
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FJC31
3/22/2025 12:22 PM
Two of the more intriguing lower level players staff followed last night:

Antonio Chol of Garden City JUCO. 6’9, averaged 20ppg 8rpg 1.4bpg
Started career at Rutgers. Pasting highlights, seems really athletic and has quite a motor. This clip claims he’s hearing from a lot of P5’s but I haven’t come across any official offers.

https://x.com/workinithoops/status/1902519333349417131?s=...

Aliou Cisse of Bridgeport (D2). 6’7, averaged 20ppg 6rpg 2bpg 1.4spg. Touted as one of the better lower level defenders in portal. Also appears to be quite athletic with a high motor.

https://x.com/pdtscouting/status/1903202475563229263?s=46...
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3/22/2025 12:45 PM
FJC31 wrote:expand_more
Two of the more intriguing lower level players staff followed last night:

Antonio Chol of Garden City JUCO. 6’9, averaged 20ppg 8rpg 1.4bpg
Started career at Rutgers. Pasting highlights, seems really athletic and has quite a motor. This clip claims he’s hearing from a lot of P5’s but I haven’t come across any official offers.

https://x.com/workinithoops/status/1902519333349417131?s=...

Aliou Cisse of Bridgeport (D2). 6’7, averaged 20ppg 6rpg 2bpg 1.4spg. Touted as one of the better lower level defenders in portal. Also appears to be quite athletic with a high motor.

https://x.com/pdtscouting/status/1903202475563229263?s=46...
These are the profile of players we should be following before portal season.
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FJC31
3/23/2025 9:27 AM
Another JUCO followed last night. Emeka Opurum - 7’0 from Butler CC.

9.4ppg 8rpg 3bpg. DPOY. Looks like he just received a few offers from Fresno, Western Michigan, and BG.

https://x.com/coachblippman/status/1902461867944989124?s=...
Last Edited: 3/23/2025 9:28:45 AM by FJC31
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3/23/2025 12:48 PM
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More of a guess, but staff is following both of the agents/reps for Merrimack’s Bryan Etumnu. He doesn’t appear to be on social media himself. He’s 6’7 and it sounds like he played the 5.

Only 8ppg and 6rpg, but averaged 2.3 bpg and won MAAC DPOY. Has great 100 possession and Per 40 stats.

100 possessions - 17ppg, 12rpg, 5bpg
Per 40 mins - 11pg, 8rpg, 3bpg

Winning DPOY and the block numbers sound like the scrappy interior presence we could really use even if on the smaller side of the”bigs”.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/...
Etumnu might be out of reach, getting interest from OSU, Georgetown, Nebraska, and Providence early on

https://x.com/theportalreport/status/1903849808739148037?...
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Buckeye to Bobcat
3/23/2025 10:35 PM
Akron's guys just announced they're coming back to run it back again.....

Appears the road to the MAC will be running thru Akron again.....
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FJC31
3/24/2025 10:27 AM
I feel like we’ll see more of our guys enter the portal because we’ve expressed interest in Louisiana’s Chancellor White who is a guard.

https://x.com/theportalreport/status/1904177518682222692?...
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Cats5
3/24/2025 11:50 AM
Ben Nicol is in the portal
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FJC31
3/24/2025 4:27 PM
More guard interest, we’ve reached out to App State’s Dior Connors. Connors played HS ball at Pickerington North before going JUCO prior to App State.

https://x.com/jakelieberman2/status/1904259020191387775?s...
Last Edited: 3/24/2025 4:32:15 PM by FJC31
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
3/24/2025 4:48 PM
When you look at the projected depth chart for next year, the interest in more guards is kind of perplexing -- even with Nicol and Elmore leaving.

Elmore frees up 25 minutes per game on the perimeter. Nicol didn't play at all. You'd think between 1) Increased minutes for Elliott 2) Burris healthy 3) Sheldon off the bench 4) Fisher 5) Mosley and 6) Kelly we'd have enough bodies to fill those minutes. And then there's, you know, Pavs and AJB.

I know Boals seems to love 4 guard lineups, but even so seems like we've got enough guards to do that.

It could mean we're just kicking the tires and "expressing interest" means very little in practice. But it also could signal the staff isn't convinced the incoming freshman are likely to contribute or that there's another departure for the portal on the horizon.
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3/24/2025 5:23 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
When you look at the projected depth chart for next year, the interest in more guards is kind of perplexing -- even with Nicol and Elmore leaving.

Elmore frees up 25 minutes per game on the perimeter. Nicol didn't play at all. You'd think between 1) Increased minutes for Elliott 2) Burris healthy 3) Sheldon off the bench 4) Fisher 5) Mosley and 6) Kelly we'd have enough bodies to fill those minutes. And then there's, you know, Pavs and AJB.

I know Boals seems to love 4 guard lineups, but even so seems like we've got enough guards to do that.

It could mean we're just kicking the tires and "expressing interest" means very little in practice. But it also could signal the staff isn't convinced the incoming freshman are likely to contribute or that there's another departure for the portal on the horizon.
Yea - at a quick glance, I'm not sure replacing one 6'3 guard averaging around 8ppg (EJ4) with another (Connors) really moves the needle for us.

We also haven't really mastered the art of playing small anyway. I can get behind one of the bigger wing adds from D2 in tandem with a true big addition, but I'd really prefer trying to replace both Searls and AJC instead of Elmore.
Last Edited: 3/24/2025 5:23:47 PM by FJC31
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3/24/2025 7:24 PM
FJC31 wrote:expand_more
When you look at the projected depth chart for next year, the interest in more guards is kind of perplexing -- even with Nicol and Elmore leaving.

Elmore frees up 25 minutes per game on the perimeter. Nicol didn't play at all. You'd think between 1) Increased minutes for Elliott 2) Burris healthy 3) Sheldon off the bench 4) Fisher 5) Mosley and 6) Kelly we'd have enough bodies to fill those minutes. And then there's, you know, Pavs and AJB.

I know Boals seems to love 4 guard lineups, but even so seems like we've got enough guards to do that.

It could mean we're just kicking the tires and "expressing interest" means very little in practice. But it also could signal the staff isn't convinced the incoming freshman are likely to contribute or that there's another departure for the portal on the horizon.
Yea - at a quick glance, I'm not sure replacing one 6'3 guard averaging around 8ppg (EJ4) with another (Connors) really moves the needle for us.

We also haven't really mastered the art of playing small anyway. I can get behind one of the bigger wing adds from D2 in tandem with a true big addition, but I'd really prefer trying to replace both Searls and AJC instead of Elmore.
What's the rule with Juco eligibility these days? I vaguely remember reading something about it -- they get an extra year, right? So he'd have two years of eligibility if he joined?
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3/24/2025 7:39 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
When you look at the projected depth chart for next year, the interest in more guards is kind of perplexing -- even with Nicol and Elmore leaving.

Elmore frees up 25 minutes per game on the perimeter. Nicol didn't play at all. You'd think between 1) Increased minutes for Elliott 2) Burris healthy 3) Sheldon off the bench 4) Fisher 5) Mosley and 6) Kelly we'd have enough bodies to fill those minutes. And then there's, you know, Pavs and AJB.

I know Boals seems to love 4 guard lineups, but even so seems like we've got enough guards to do that.

It could mean we're just kicking the tires and "expressing interest" means very little in practice. But it also could signal the staff isn't convinced the incoming freshman are likely to contribute or that there's another departure for the portal on the horizon.
Yea - at a quick glance, I'm not sure replacing one 6'3 guard averaging around 8ppg (EJ4) with another (Connors) really moves the needle for us.

We also haven't really mastered the art of playing small anyway. I can get behind one of the bigger wing adds from D2 in tandem with a true big addition, but I'd really prefer trying to replace both Searls and AJC instead of Elmore.
What's the rule with Juco eligibility these days? I vaguely remember reading something about it -- they get an extra year, right? So he'd have two years of eligibility if he joined?
I believe that they now get four years if they have only played at the JUCO level. It's just like recruiting a high school player in terms eligibility. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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3/24/2025 7:47 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
When you look at the projected depth chart for next year, the interest in more guards is kind of perplexing -- even with Nicol and Elmore leaving.

Elmore frees up 25 minutes per game on the perimeter. Nicol didn't play at all. You'd think between 1) Increased minutes for Elliott 2) Burris healthy 3) Sheldon off the bench 4) Fisher 5) Mosley and 6) Kelly we'd have enough bodies to fill those minutes. And then there's, you know, Pavs and AJB.

I know Boals seems to love 4 guard lineups, but even so seems like we've got enough guards to do that.

It could mean we're just kicking the tires and "expressing interest" means very little in practice. But it also could signal the staff isn't convinced the incoming freshman are likely to contribute or that there's another departure for the portal on the horizon.
Yea - at a quick glance, I'm not sure replacing one 6'3 guard averaging around 8ppg (EJ4) with another (Connors) really moves the needle for us.

We also haven't really mastered the art of playing small anyway. I can get behind one of the bigger wing adds from D2 in tandem with a true big addition, but I'd really prefer trying to replace both Searls and AJC instead of Elmore.
What's the rule with Juco eligibility these days? I vaguely remember reading something about it -- they get an extra year, right? So he'd have two years of eligibility if he joined?
I believe that they now get four years if they have only played at the JUCO level. It's just like recruiting a high school player in terms eligibility. Correct me if I'm wrong.
This is correct moving forward. JUCO athletes who would have exhausted their eligibility at the conclusion of this season (24/25) get an extra year, but that’s it.
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