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FearLeon
3/13/2021 11:43 PM
When John Groce left for Illinois, I was not bashful on this board in saying go get Jeff Boals NOW. A lot of people on this board did not agree with why Boals should have been the man after Groce. Many just felt like he wasn't ready and I couldn't understand why. What made John Groce more ready than Boals to become head coach at Ohio? Groce was an assistant at Ohio State before he came to Ohio. Boals was an assistant at Ohio State and Schaus never called him. Said he wanted somebody with head coaching experience, yet he hired Groce with none. I have no doubt Schaus regrets not hiring Boals seven years ago, but at least he finally got it right on his way out.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Ohio should never go more than 5 years without making the big dance. You see the success Dambrot had at Akron. You see what Oats did at Buffalo. It can and should be happening in Athens. This is a very important time in Ohio basketball history. Boals has a tremendous opportunity to take advantage of the current Preston years, but most importantly, the post-Preston era in recruiting. This was where Larry Hunter struggled with the post-Gary Trent recruiting years. He never took full advantage of it. I can't imagine how many HS basketball studs in Ohio have watched Jason Preston and company the past three nights and thought wow...that's a team I want to be on and a coach I want to play for.

What we witnessed the past three nights was astonishing. We wiped out three of the best teams in the conference and it was total domination. You have to have talent, but you have to have a coach who knows how to utilize the talent and maximize every ounce of potential out of them. That is what Boals is doing. If this entire team comes back next year and please let that happen.....it's not a stretch to say this is a top-25 caliber squad in 2021-2022.

Thank you Jeff Boals for returning to your alma mater and restoring glory back to the mens' basketball program. I have a feeling the best is yet to come. Go Bobcats!
Last Edited: 3/13/2021 11:47:51 PM by FearLeon
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CatsUp
3/13/2021 11:49 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
When John Groce left for Illinois, I was not bashful on this board in saying go get Jeff Boals NOW. A lot of people on this board did not agree with why Boals should have been the man after Groce. Many just felt like he wasn't ready and I couldn't understand why. What made John Groce more ready than Boals to become head coach at Ohio? Groce was an assistant at Ohio State before he came to Ohio. Boals was an assistant at Ohio State and Schaus never called him. Said he wanted somebody with head coaching experience, yet he hired Groce with none. I have no doubt Schaus regrets not hiring Boals seven years ago, but at least he finally got it right on his way out.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Ohio should never go more than 5 years without making the big dance. You see the success Dambrot had at Akron. You see what Oats did at Buffalo. It can and should be happening in Athens. This is a very important time in Ohio basketball history. Boals has a tremendous opportunity to take advantage of the current Preston years, but most importantly, the post-Preston era in recruiting. This was where Larry Hunter struggled with the post-Gary Trent recruiting years. He never took full advantage of it. I can't imagine how many HS basketball studs in Ohio have watched Jason Preston and company the past three nights and thought wow...that's a team I want to be on and a coach I want to play for.

What we witnessed the past three nights was astonishing. We wiped out three of the best teams in the conference and it was total domination. You have to have talent, but you have to have a coach who knows how to utilize the talent and maximize every ounce of potential out of them. That is what Boals is doing. If this entire team comes back next year and please let that happen.....it's not a stretch to say this is a top-25 caliber squad in 2021-2022.

Thank you Jeff Boals for returning to your alma mater and restoring glory back to the mens' basketball program. I have a feeling the best is yet to come. Go Bobcats!
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Deciduous Forest Cat
3/13/2021 11:56 PM
I believe Schaus didn't hire Boals because he didn't want to be responsible if a Bobcat alum wasn't successful and had to fire him. Hiring Boals when you've got one foot out the door? no brainer.
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giacomo
3/14/2021 12:06 AM
Thank you, Nostradamus.
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GraffZ06
3/14/2021 1:01 AM
CatsUp wrote:expand_more
When John Groce left for Illinois, I was not bashful on this board in saying go get Jeff Boals NOW. A lot of people on this board did not agree with why Boals should have been the man after Groce. Many just felt like he wasn't ready and I couldn't understand why. What made John Groce more ready than Boals to become head coach at Ohio? Groce was an assistant at Ohio State before he came to Ohio. Boals was an assistant at Ohio State and Schaus never called him. Said he wanted somebody with head coaching experience, yet he hired Groce with none. I have no doubt Schaus regrets not hiring Boals seven years ago, but at least he finally got it right on his way out.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Ohio should never go more than 5 years without making the big dance. You see the success Dambrot had at Akron. You see what Oats did at Buffalo. It can and should be happening in Athens. This is a very important time in Ohio basketball history. Boals has a tremendous opportunity to take advantage of the current Preston years, but most importantly, the post-Preston era in recruiting. This was where Larry Hunter struggled with the post-Gary Trent recruiting years. He never took full advantage of it. I can't imagine how many HS basketball studs in Ohio have watched Jason Preston and company the past three nights and thought wow...that's a team I want to be on and a coach I want to play for.

What we witnessed the past three nights was astonishing. We wiped out three of the best teams in the conference and it was total domination. You have to have talent, but you have to have a coach who knows how to utilize the talent and maximize every ounce of potential out of them. That is what Boals is doing. If this entire team comes back next year and please let that happen.....it's not a stretch to say this is a top-25 caliber squad in 2021-2022.

Thank you Jeff Boals for returning to your alma mater and restoring glory back to the mens' basketball program. I have a feeling the best is yet to come. Go Bobcats!
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+2. I've thought Jeff would make a great coach - even possibly at Ohio someday - since he coached me during HS at Coach Hunter's basketball camps back in the day. He's the real deal.
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Andrew Ruck
3/14/2021 1:11 AM
giacomo wrote:expand_more
Thank you, Nostradamus.
My thoughts exactly. Eye roll.

But agree with the sentiment and many thanks to Jeff Boals and his team for getting this group where they're at now.
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Brian Smith (No, not that one)
3/14/2021 4:10 AM
A reminder that how you interview is not all that indicative of how well you coach. Boals deserved to move up the coaching tree faster than he did. But it’s all our gain.
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71 BOBCAT
3/14/2021 11:18 AM
FearLeon.........Well written post, You hit all the important aspects of the team and Boals.







GO BOBCATS
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JSF
3/14/2021 1:15 PM
I still say it should've been Holtmann.
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cbus cat fan
3/14/2021 2:45 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
When John Groce left for Illinois, I was not bashful on this board in saying go get Jeff Boals NOW. A lot of people on this board did not agree with why Boals should have been the man after Groce. Many just felt like he wasn't ready and I couldn't understand why. What made John Groce more ready than Boals to become head coach at Ohio? Groce was an assistant at Ohio State before he came to Ohio. Boals was an assistant at Ohio State and Schaus never called him. Said he wanted somebody with head coaching experience, yet he hired Groce with none. I have no doubt Schaus regrets not hiring Boals seven years ago, but at least he finally got it right on his way out.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Ohio should never go more than 5 years without making the big dance. You see the success Dambrot had at Akron. You see what Oats did at Buffalo. It can and should be happening in Athens. This is a very important time in Ohio basketball history. Boals has a tremendous opportunity to take advantage of the current Preston years, but most importantly, the post-Preston era in recruiting. This was where Larry Hunter struggled with the post-Gary Trent recruiting years. He never took full advantage of it. I can't imagine how many HS basketball studs in Ohio have watched Jason Preston and company the past three nights and thought wow...that's a team I want to be on and a coach I want to play for.

What we witnessed the past three nights was astonishing. We wiped out three of the best teams in the conference and it was total domination. You have to have talent, but you have to have a coach who knows how to utilize the talent and maximize every ounce of potential out of them. That is what Boals is doing. If this entire team comes back next year and please let that happen.....it's not a stretch to say this is a top-25 caliber squad in 2021-2022.

Thank you Jeff Boals for returning to your alma mater and restoring glory back to the mens' basketball program. I have a feeling the best is yet to come. Go Bobcats!
+3 It scares me a bit that someone wouldn't agree with this post. Our biggest hurdle will be to keep Coach Boals, something to which every mid-major school has to contend. Some coaches are great x's and o'x guys, while others earn their bona fides by recruiting. It is rare to have coach who can successfully do both.

Even though he is an alum, there will be programs throwing all kinds of money at him, and one never knows his family situation--what they want etc. For now though, let's just enjoy the ride and hope it is one that continues for years to come.
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Obc2
3/14/2021 4:14 PM
I wanted Boals after Groce, too. But i really didnt know any of the other options. Saul who?

I remember really really liking Saul after seeing him for the first time at Cincy Caravan. I thought we had a star.

I hope Mr Boals sticks around a few years. But i know i made a run for Cincy or The Land every five weeks or so as an undergrad. Ha!
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bornacatfan
3/14/2021 4:42 PM
JSF wrote:expand_more
I still say it should've been Holtmann.
That was my vote at the time but Jeff would have been fine as well. Strong Holtmann lean from the first time we talked in a darkened Convo the day after Ku and Rhodie left. I though coming back from GW was a logical move.

Explaining to Butler fans how good he is when he was hired as an assistant to Miller and then listening to them whine years later when tO$U backed up the armoured cars with cash to woo him away was a 180 degree turn. This USAToday article outlined the trajectory at Butler pre tO$U https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/bigeast/2014/... / They are getting a bit antsy with their current coach.

Boals is pretty awesome and assembled this staff and roster pulling from many sources. Got to like what he has done and how he put things together.

Just watched Oats win today at Alabama and thought what a difference between John's Illinois situation and what Nate has built down south. Was not sure ALabama would be a great situation but he is putting a program and culture in place.
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Jeff McKinney
3/14/2021 8:56 PM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
I still say it should've been Holtmann.
That was my vote at the time but Jeff would have been fine as well. Strong Holtmann lean from the first time we talked in a darkened Convo the day after Ku and Rhodie left. I though coming back from GW was a logical move.

Explaining to Butler fans how good he is when he was hired as an assistant to Miller and then listening to them whine years later when tO$U backed up the armoured cars with cash to woo him away was a 180 degree turn. This USAToday article outlined the trajectory at Butler pre tO$U https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/bigeast/2014/... / They are getting a bit antsy with their current coach.

Boals is pretty awesome and assembled this staff and roster pulling from many sources. Got to like what he has done and how he put things together.

Just watched Oats win today at Alabama and thought what a difference between John's Illinois situation and what Nate has built down south. Was not sure ALabama would be a great situation but he is putting a program and culture in place.
Agree
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Deciduous Forest Cat
3/15/2021 1:15 PM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
Thank you, Nostradamus.
My thoughts exactly. Eye roll.

But agree with the sentiment and many thanks to Jeff Boals and his team for getting this group where they're at now.
Geez. Everyone put piss in their cheerios this morning.
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Andrew Ruck
3/15/2021 3:34 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
Thank you, Nostradamus.
My thoughts exactly. Eye roll.

But agree with the sentiment and many thanks to Jeff Boals and his team for getting this group where they're at now.
Geez. Everyone put piss in their cheerios this morning.
My Cheerios were piss free. The first paragraph was just a bit self serving, and reminded me of his all-time most ridiculous post of "see look, I told you Groce is a March winner" after he won a random 1st round 10/11 MAC Tourney game (only to lose the next game) a few years ago.
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JSF
3/15/2021 3:49 PM
Make enough predictions and one of them is bound to come true!
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Deciduous Forest Cat
3/15/2021 4:03 PM
Well I guess that's egg on my face. I thought that initial reply was to me even though I couldn't see what prediction I had made. I've always fashioned myself more of a Jeane Dixon anyway.
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