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greencat
4/19/2021 3:07 PM
Is there any interest in an extra 6-5 wing player? He's in the portal.
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OU_Country
4/19/2021 4:10 PM
Are there scholarships left to give?
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GraffZ06
4/20/2021 1:29 AM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Are there scholarships left to give?
Yes, if we want to.

Had 13 last year with only 1 Sr in Wilson. AJ Clayton takes that scholarship, and of course Wilson (like everyone else) gets a free COVID year.

Then we lost 3 to transfer (Miguel, Foster, McMurray) and have brought 2 in to replace them (Jason Carter and IJ Ezuma).

Means we technically have 1 spot still available (putting us at 14 - full 13 plus bonus year for Wilson) if we want to spend the $ for the extra scholarship.
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OUVan
4/20/2021 7:38 AM
I think we are done bringing in players. I'd much rather give the wing minutes to guys already on the roster.
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TWT
4/20/2021 10:20 AM
Technically Boals could add another scholarship but with Wilson and Carter he has 14 on the team for next year which as pointed out could be a problem for minutes. Lack of minutes can force transfers like it did this season.
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GoCats105
4/20/2021 11:24 AM
OUVan wrote:expand_more
I think we are done bringing in players. I'd much rather give the wing minutes to guys already on the roster.
This is where I'm at. Where are all the minutes going to come from for ANOTHER transfer probably expecting minutes.
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The Optimist
4/20/2021 11:40 AM
Agreed, if we are going to use that extra scholarship, I would think it's a project young guy/potential redshirt but that doesn't seem to be as common as it used to be.
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bobcatsquared
4/20/2021 1:01 PM
I don't think I would redshirt a frosh in the environment college basketball and football is in these days. I would just be afraid of that player developing in your program and then transferring to another.
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greencat
4/20/2021 2:51 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
I don't think I would redshirt a frosh in the environment college basketball and football is in these days. I would just be afraid of that player developing in your program and then transferring to another.
And on that note... Jallow transferred to UNC-Charlotte an hour ago.

(plus with the things you hear about C'bus the last few days... the Chitt-riot, the person slain at a vigil for a person who was slain, the 73 year old Uber driver who was carjacked, etc. - can you blame a person for wanting to not live their anymore?)
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OU_Country
4/20/2021 3:18 PM
greencat wrote:expand_more
And on that note... Jallow transferred to UNC-Charlotte an hour ago.

(plus with the things you hear about C'bus the last few days... the Chitt-riot, the person slain at a vigil for a person who was slain, the 73 year old Uber driver who was carjacked, etc. - can you blame a person for wanting to not live their anymore?)

(insert heavy eye roll here)

I'm sure the events that made the news the last few days influenced Jallow's decision.
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greencat
4/20/2021 3:49 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
And on that note... Jallow transferred to UNC-Charlotte an hour ago.

(plus with the things you hear about C'bus the last few days... the Chitt-riot, the person slain at a vigil for a person who was slain, the 73 year old Uber driver who was carjacked, etc. - can you blame a person for wanting to not live their anymore?)

(insert heavy eye roll here)

I'm sure the events that made the news the last few days influenced Jallow's decision.
He was already in the portal iirc, but the state of things in Columbus have really gotten concerning. I was watching reports about the repeated shootings at Polaris Mall, an elite shopping area a while back. If you have Roku and you know how to use the right app, it's possible to watch the local news from any city.
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longtiimelurker
4/20/2021 7:13 PM
greencat wrote:expand_more
And on that note... Jallow transferred to UNC-Charlotte an hour ago.

(plus with the things you hear about C'bus the last few days... the Chitt-riot, the person slain at a vigil for a person who was slain, the 73 year old Uber driver who was carjacked, etc. - can you blame a person for wanting to not live their anymore?)

(insert heavy eye roll here)

I'm sure the events that made the news the last few days influenced Jallow's decision.
He was already in the portal iirc, but the state of things in Columbus have really gotten concerning. I was watching reports about the repeated shootings at Polaris Mall, an elite shopping area a while back. If you have Roku and you know how to use the right app, it's possible to watch the local news from any city.
I just don't watch news anymore. Watching local news would only make it worse. All the local newscasts I have watched have made things look really bad. There is no good news, there is only the bad on local channels. Watching today here in Cincinnati area, like Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Peoria, Memphis, Nashville and others are all in a contest to make sure they show the locals the very worst of the city. Why would you want to subject yourself to seeking out local news. I am sure if you gave up Columbus and watched Memphis you would see the same thing. Chicago and New York locals make me never want to go there again.
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The Optimist
4/20/2021 8:30 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
I don't think I would redshirt a frosh in the environment college basketball and football is in these days. I would just be afraid of that player developing in your program and then transferring to another.
There’s a very real possibility they would transfer, but I don’t see any downside. Outside of the scholarship money (for our budget, 1 scholarship is whatever) at the very least we’ve got a big body in practice. As we’ve seen with Jason Carter, maybe they’d even transfer out them back
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Deciduous Forest Cat
4/20/2021 9:00 PM
there's no way this is a real person. This is just a Jarjar Binks quote.
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OU_Country
4/21/2021 10:38 AM
longtiimelurker wrote:expand_more
I just don't watch news anymore. Watching local news would only make it worse. All the local newscasts I have watched have made things look really bad. There is no good news, there is only the bad on local channels. Watching today here in Cincinnati area, like Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Peoria, Memphis, Nashville and others are all in a contest to make sure they show the locals the very worst of the city. Why would you want to subject yourself to seeking out local news. I am sure if you gave up Columbus and watched Memphis you would see the same thing. Chicago and New York locals make me never want to go there again.
Same here, which is exactly why I said "heavy eye roll". I think its silly to glean a perspective of what a city is actually like based off of any form of local or national news. The news will always lead with shootings, muggings, traffic accidents, political negativity, fires....and it's the same in every city with a local affiliate I've watched news from. Columbus is just one of them, and I happen to live here and know better. Change the name of the city to Dayton, Cleveland, or Indianapolis and its the same

While some will disagree, in my opinion, reading the local paper gives a better chance of knowing what a place is like. Sadly, local papers are what we've discussed on here: struggling and disappearing.

Yeah, watching "the news" at 6pm or 11pm, for me is a complete waste of my time. As a friend said to me, and I agree, "its (bleeping) depressing" because 90-95% of it is negative bad news. I'll pass, and have done so for a long time.
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GoCats105
4/21/2021 10:57 AM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
there's no way this is a real person. This is just a Jarjar Binks quote.
LMAO
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rpbobcat
4/21/2021 11:04 AM
longtiimelurker wrote:expand_more
Chicago and New York locals make me never want to go there again.
In honesty,the local news shows don't begin to cover how decrepit midtown
Manhattan has become.

With Broadway,and pretty much everything else in that area closed,its a ghost town,except for the homeless encampments.
They're everywhere ,including Times Square.

The majority of hotels in the area are closed,some permanently.

The subways are even more of a problem.
Low ridership means lots of problems with crime,including on platforms.Plus,homeless living in trains.
The City refuses to put more police in stations.

Combine that with the state's "no cash bail" for most non and even some
violent crimes,and its a mess.

We've seen a mass exodus from NYC residents to upstate NY,NJ and Conn.

The fact that offices are operating remotely and will, for the most part,stay that way doesn't help.

You take your life in your hands trying to walk in midtown.

Its so bad,I know several police officers from NJ who have been told to make sure they have their "off duty" weapon, if they have to go to the city.

My cousin works for the City as plan reviewer.
He's been remote,for about a year,but has had to make occasional trips
to police stations or fire houses.
Goes in before sun up.Parks at the location,and is out by 8:00.

He's supposed to back to his office in May.
The City is still trying to come up with safety (non covid) protocols for the employees to be able to be in person.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
4/21/2021 11:30 AM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Chicago and New York locals make me never want to go there again.
In honesty,the local news shows don't begin to cover how decrepit midtown
Manhattan has become.

With Broadway,and pretty much everything else in that area closed,its a ghost town,except for the homeless encampments.
They're everywhere ,including Times Square.

The majority of hotels in the area are closed,some permanently.

The subways are even more of a problem.
Low ridership means lots of problems with crime,including on platforms.Plus,homeless living in trains.
The City refuses to put more police in stations.

Combine that with the state's "no cash bail" for most non and even some
violent crimes,and its a mess.

We've seen a mass exodus from NYC residents to upstate NY,NJ and Conn.

The fact that offices are operating remotely and will, for the most part,stay that way doesn't help.

You take your life in your hands trying to walk in midtown.

Its so bad,I know several police officers from NJ who have been told to make sure they have their "off duty" weapon, if they have to go to the city.

My cousin works for the City as plan reviewer.
He's been remote,for about a year,but has had to make occasional trips
to police stations or fire houses.
Goes in before sun up.Parks at the location,and is out by 8:00.

He's supposed to back to his office in May.
The City is still trying to come up with safety (non covid) protocols for the employees to be able to be in person.
I keep being told by people who don't live in New York how awful New York's become. I take the subway a bunch of times every week. I haven't noticed any of the above. In fact, my friends and I were in Prospect Park just last night laughing at all of the news coverage about how New York's descended into a crime-ridden hell scape and none of us have noticed despite, you know, living here.

This is so far from my actual reality that I'm not even sure how to respond. I was in my office in midtown yesterday. I assure you I wasn't taking my life into my own hands, or in any danger whatsoever. In fact, I had a very nice meal at an outdoor table on Broadway, surrounded by hundreds of other diners doing the same, and having a great time. I then bought a couple of bottles of wine and took the train to meet friends in the park, where we sat on a blanket and listened to musicians playing for families. Kids of all ages were running around. The baseball fields were filled with Little League games. There was an ice cream truck. Food carts.

And not only does my lived reality not match this in any way, but the statistics do not match it, either: https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/pr0212/nypd-citywide-... . The crime rate in February '21 was down in every major category as compared to February '20, pre-pandemic.

I think there are people who are inclined to think the worst. And I think there are news sources who recognize the value, in terms of eyeballs, of encouraging them to do so. But I assure you as somebody who spends all of his time in New York City that your description of it borders on hysteria.
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NewAthenian
4/21/2021 11:46 AM
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Columbus is just one of them, and I happen to live here and know better. Change the name of the city to Dayton, Cleveland, or Indianapolis and its the same
On the other hand, had they changed the name to Flavortown as was suggested last year, it might be a different story.
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rpbobcat
4/21/2021 12:45 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
I keep being told by people who don't live in New York how awful New York's become. I take the subway a bunch of times every week. I haven't noticed any of the above. In fact, my friends and I were in Prospect Park just last night laughing at all of the news coverage about how New York's descended into a crime-ridden hell scape and none of us have noticed despite, you know, living here.

This is so far from my actual reality that I'm not even sure how to respond. I was in my office in midtown yesterday. I assure you I wasn't taking my life into my own hands, or in any danger whatsoever. In fact, I had a very nice meal at an outdoor table on Broadway, surrounded by hundreds of other diners doing the same, and having a great time. I then bought a couple of bottles of wine and took the train to meet friends in the park, where we sat on a blanket and listened to musicians playing for families. Kids of all ages were running around. The baseball fields were filled with Little League games. There was an ice cream truck. Food carts.

And not only does my lived reality not match this in any way, but the statistics do not match it, either: https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/pr0212/nypd-citywide-... . The crime rate in February '21 was down in every major category as compared to February '20, pre-pandemic.

I think there are people who are inclined to think the worst. And I think there are news sources who recognize the value, in terms of eyeballs, of encouraging them to do so. But I assure you as somebody who spends all of his time in New York City that your description of it borders on hysteria.

I don't live in NYC.
I do live right across the river in NJ.

Please, send my a pair of your "rose colored glasses" or the wine you were
drinking.

I'm doing a residential project in northern Jersey.
17 new single family houses,$750. K +.

All the purchasers came from midtown.
They said they left because they said the City wasn't safe.
They said they are allowed to work from home.
So they have no intention of ever moving back.

Posted about my cousin who works for the city.

Posted about what police officers in this area are being told about visiting the city.

If midtown is so great, why did DiBlazio just announce he was stationing, I believe it was over 80 officers in midtown to "clean up the area".

He also announced the City was going to clean up the area to "make it sparkle".

One last example.
An atty. I'm working with on a project in NJ,lives on Central Park West.
After a site meeting he decided, rather then have his wife pick him up, to take mass transit into the Port Authority then go home from there.
He said "never again".

As far as you and your friends in Prospect Park, guess that before all the vandalism last night.
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cc-cat
4/21/2021 12:53 PM
There has always been flight from NYC to the burbs - nothing new - especially as kids come into the equation. Still have many friends and relatives in Manhattan. Even have friend moving back. All are happy. But yes, if you talk to real estate agents in NJ or LI they will tell you how you must get out alive now. Lions and Tiger and Bears Oh My.
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OhioCatFan
4/21/2021 1:02 PM
NewAthenian wrote:expand_more
Columbus is just one of them, and I happen to live here and know better. Change the name of the city to Dayton, Cleveland, or Indianapolis and its the same
On the other hand, had they changed the name to Flavortown as was suggested last year, it might be a different story.
My mother always said that that city should be named Erikson, the real European discoverer of the New World, not that faker Columbus. That would have resulted, no doubt, in a very different story! ;-)
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OhioCatFan
4/21/2021 1:08 PM
In terms of local news in local papers, it reminds me of the couple we knew in Murray, Ky. They were independently wealthy, and could move with their family to any place they wanted. They identified several possible locations to settle down and subscribed for a month to the papers in those towns. They said they chose Murray when the Ledger & Times ran a front page story of a kid getting his bicycle stolen off his front porch. They said they figured that if that made front page news in Murray that it was a safe place to raise kids.
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greencat
4/21/2021 1:10 PM
longtiimelurker wrote:expand_more
And on that note... Jallow transferred to UNC-Charlotte an hour ago.

(plus with the things you hear about C'bus the last few days... the Chitt-riot, the person slain at a vigil for a person who was slain, the 73 year old Uber driver who was carjacked, etc. - can you blame a person for wanting to not live their anymore?)

(insert heavy eye roll here)

I'm sure the events that made the news the last few days influenced Jallow's decision.
He was already in the portal iirc, but the state of things in Columbus have really gotten concerning. I was watching reports about the repeated shootings at Polaris Mall, an elite shopping area a while back. If you have Roku and you know how to use the right app, it's possible to watch the local news from any city.
I just don't watch news anymore. Watching local news would only make it worse. All the local newscasts I have watched have made things look really bad. There is no good news, there is only the bad on local channels. Watching today here in Cincinnati area, like Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Peoria, Memphis, Nashville and others are all in a contest to make sure they show the locals the very worst of the city. Why would you want to subject yourself to seeking out local news. I am sure if you gave up Columbus and watched Memphis you would see the same thing. Chicago and New York locals make me never want to go there again.
I live in the Nashville area and have been to Memphis quite a bit.

We know which areas to stay away from. And the people who move to Nashville thinking it's going to be like the old Andy Griffith show re-runs? (at least until they move here and get carjacked or shot at on the interstate over road rage)

I had some things to say on the non-sports section in the ChittRiot thread about Memphis, Nashville, etc.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
4/21/2021 1:20 PM
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I don't live in NYC.
I do live right across the river in NJ.

Please, send my a pair of your "rose colored glasses" or the wine you were
drinking. [/QUOTE]I wasn't wearing glasses when I presented you with actual, hard data from the NYPD that directly reputes all of your anectdotal, second-hand information.



I'm doing a residential project in northern Jersey.
17 new single family houses,$750. K +.

All the purchasers came from midtown.
They said they left because they said the City wasn't safe.
They said they are allowed to work from home.
So they have no intention of ever moving back.
Many people chose to leave New York during the pandemic. I don't blame them. When you live in New York, you kind of make this implicit choice that the city is your living room/dining room. Most apartments are short on space. It's access to the bars, the restaurants, the culture that make that a worthwhile tradeoff. Without those things over the last year, New York wasn't as nice a place to live.

I think you may be over-indexing on 'crime' as a cause of people leaving. I suspect not being able to leave your small apartment played a role, too. I myself spent 4 months in Woodstock for that reason.

If midtown is so great, why did DiBlazio just announce he was stationing, I believe it was over 80 officers in midtown to "clean up the area".

He also announced the City was going to clean up the area to "make it sparkle".
I didn't say Midtown was great. Midtown sucks. It's always sucked. It's a collection of office buildings and overpriced delis and restaurants that rip off tourists and people from New Jersey. Even in the best of times, it was a wasteland at night anywhere East of the theater district. And it's an area that's been completely decimated by Covid, because it relied very, very heavily on office workers who commute in daily, or travel from elsewhere for business in New York.

It's currently littered with vacant store fronts and closed hotels. And it's become a magnet for the homeless population, who have opted out of shelters due to fears over Covid. So when DeBlasio commits police resources and states he's going to "make it sparkle" that's what he means.

An obvious conclusion one could reach given that the crime rate's down, but so many people are convinced otherwise, is that people equate visible homelessness with crime. I think that's a natural reaction.


One last example.
An atty. I'm working with on a project in NJ,lives on Central Park West.
After a site meeting he decided, rather then have his wife pick him up, to take mass transit into the Port Authority then go home from there.
He said "never again".
I could list anecdotal observations endlessly. I coupled mine with data.

[QUOTE=rpbobcat]
As far as you and your friends in Prospect Park, guess that before all the vandalism last night.
Oh no, not vandalism. Teenagers pushed over trashcans in the park? I guess I'll get a gun and move to Perth Amboy.

It's truly sad how desperate so many Americans are to be afraid of each other.
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