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Andrew Ruck
1/5/2022 8:34 AM
This was a different kind of win for sure. It started out like all the others...great defense, winning TO battle huge, not fouling and having a comfortable lead despite meh shooting. But in the end we won because we outshot our opponent highlighted by a few really big shots. Namely the the 3 straight threes late in the 1st half by Sears/Carter/Sears...then down the stretch the 3 by BVP, the tremendous driving bucket off the glass by Roderick, and the dagger drive bucket by Sears.

It was 33-23 at the half but personally I thought Akron was lucky it wasn't about 35-15. We completely dominated the 1st half with elite defense...several of their 23 were from real ugly shots. The stretch from 53-39 to 60-61 was indescribably painful. Both the technical and 10 second call felt like refs taking their job too seriously...Schmock was heading over the line right at the 20 second mark, and coaches are "outside the box" constantly. For that stretch Akron just couldn't miss and things felt very dire. So impressive to move past that and tip the scales back in our favor. As others said, free throw shooting was big. It is a known strength for us and known weakness for them.

And Mark Sears is incredible. We saw it last year too...his talent is just easy to see watching him. I'm forever amazed he didn't get lots of high major offers.
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colobobcat66
1/5/2022 8:47 AM
As Boals said this was a nice team win, every player contributed at a key time. I’m thinking the short bench is creating some fatigue issues for the starters which has been showing up in several games. Hope that doesn’t bite us down the road
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spongeBOB CATpants
1/5/2022 10:06 AM
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I'm interested to see how Mark Sears finishes around the basket against the Zips' inside duo of Bandaogo, a 7-ft frosh, and Freeman, who plays taller than his 6-7 height. Sears has shown in 1 1/2 years as a Bobcat the ability to finish around the hoop despite being just 6-1 with the exception of OUr games v. LSU and UK and their long frontlines.
Very impressed with what Sears showed tonight around the rim against bigger defenders for the Zips.
The and-1 that Sears made through 3 defenders was unbelievable.
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CatsUp
1/5/2022 10:27 AM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
This was a different kind of win for sure. It started out like all the others...great defense, winning TO battle huge, not fouling and having a comfortable lead despite meh shooting. But in the end we won because we outshot our opponent highlighted by a few really big shots. Namely the the 3 straight threes late in the 1st half by Sears/Carter/Sears...then down the stretch the 3 by BVP, the tremendous driving bucket off the glass by Roderick, and the dagger drive bucket by Sears.

It was 33-23 at the half but personally I thought Akron was lucky it wasn't about 35-15. We completely dominated the 1st half with elite defense...several of their 23 were from real ugly shots. The stretch from 53-39 to 60-61 was indescribably painful. Both the technical and 10 second call felt like refs taking their job too seriously...Schmock was heading over the line right at the 20 second mark, and coaches are "outside the box" constantly. For that stretch Akron just couldn't miss and things felt very dire. So impressive to move past that and tip the scales back in our favor. As others said, free throw shooting was big. It is a known strength for us and known weakness for them.

And Mark Sears is incredible. We saw it last year too...his talent is just easy to see watching him. I'm forever amazed he didn't get lots of high major offers.
Speaking of Boals apparently being “out of the box”, earlier, Groce, during one of his demonstrative moments, had both feet out on the floor, hands on knees and stooped over while Sears was coming toward him dribbling the ball while the team was running its offense. He couldn’t have been more than 8-10’ away. Groce, I guess just realizing where he was, had to jump back to get out of the way. I guess the officials must think being out of the box in a less impactful way is much more important.
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ohiocatfan1
1/5/2022 10:38 AM
Very nice road win. Jason Carter had a fine game. Having said that how many times did he fail to finish at the rim? He has struggled with that in 4+ years of college basketball.
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BurritoBuggy4
1/5/2022 11:07 AM
Schmock could have reasonably garnered some "player of the game" votes last night for his contributions. Obviously Sears, Carter, and arguably others had better all-around nights, but Schmock's timely steals, dime(s), and buckets were huge for us. Great improvement from him as the season has gone on. I hope it continues.
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OUcats82
1/5/2022 11:10 AM
Winning in the JAR is always great! Was prOUd to see the team weather the comeback and pull out a tough road win.
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Victory
1/5/2022 11:58 AM
We are up to #28 in the SOR rankings from ESPN based off of BPI.
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Cleveburg Bri
1/5/2022 12:11 PM
Nothing to add someone else hasn't already said, but that game was just all kinds of fun. I absolutely thought they were going to lose it after that stretch that included Boals' T, a bunch of Carter's close-but-not-quite shooting around the rim, a couple of over-excited fouls, and the 10 second violation, but they still played a lot of great basketball and hung tough at the end.

- Roderick shoots 50% from three (okay, 1 of 2)
- Carter made a couple of threes
- Defense was stout
- And Sears looks to be developing into a stud. Within spitting distance of 20 ppg. Ohio hasn't had that in nearly 20 years.

I'm bummed about Mcday leaving, but this is a fun group. Not yet convinced it's made for upsets of the top 25, but still a fun team.
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greencat
1/5/2022 12:50 PM
I didn't look back through the entire thread so this may have already been mentioned. So, Akron only had like 2 points with 12 minutes left in the fist half. If the Bobcats had played their "A" game (whatever that is this season), it seems like they could have had 15 or 20 on the scoreboard, not 7 or 9. To be honest, this did cause a bit of worry that Akron would get back in the game in the second half and they did. Partly because of our short bench without McDay and Wilson. There is only so much help the non-physical forwards like Towns and Clayton can do vs bigger/older guys. The transfer (Schmock) has really been a big help off the bench. Never reject the idea of getting a transfer from a D-2 school. One of the best guards I saw in high school nearly ten years ago actually decided on playing at D-2 Carson Newman over D-1 mid-major offers. He became the seventh player in NCAA history and the first at the Division II level with back-to-back triple-doubles.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-02-...
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Bobcat1998
1/5/2022 1:34 PM
Maybe I missed something but KJ Walton isn't even on Akron's roster anymore? I know Trimble was in protocol but Walton went from playing the first six games to not even being on their roster?
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Eagle66
1/5/2022 3:13 PM
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Maybe I missed something but KJ Walton isn't even on Akron's roster anymore? I know Trimble was in protocol but Walton went from playing the first six games to not even being on their roster?
He left the team earlier in the year. No explanation or details from what I saw.
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Casper71
1/5/2022 3:45 PM
Really good win…but lots of failures in the lane! And lots of bad possessions. Need to learn to value each and every possession. When we move the ball and don’t force things and play good defense we are really good.
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Bobcat1998
1/5/2022 4:11 PM
It was a great win and the announcers were pretty decent. I love though, that in most of our games, the announcers spend time talking about who "isn't" playing for the opposition but there is no mention of the fact that we have a Third Team All-MAC player who averaged 15 and 7 and shot 70 percent from the field, on our bench and a 2-year starter away from the team. What this team has accomplished at 11-2, 2-0 is nothing short of amazing without Jay Preston, Dwight Wilson and Lunden McDay.
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bobcatsquared
1/5/2022 6:16 PM
BurritoBuggy4 wrote:expand_more
Schmock could have reasonably garnered some "player of the game" votes last night for his contributions. Obviously Sears, Carter, and arguably others had better all-around nights, but Schmock's timely steals, dime(s), and buckets were huge for us. Great improvement from him as the season has gone on. I hope it continues.
I loved how he stripped the ball from behind against Ali in the first half when Ali thought he had a mismatch and was going to take him one-on-one. I believe the steal led to a Bobcat basket.

Later in the game, when Ali was going to single-handedly lead the Zips to victory, Schmock left his man to double up Ali in the corner. I believe Akron came up empty on both possessions.
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BurritoBuggy4
1/5/2022 7:16 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Schmock could have reasonably garnered some "player of the game" votes last night for his contributions. Obviously Sears, Carter, and arguably others had better all-around nights, but Schmock's timely steals, dime(s), and buckets were huge for us. Great improvement from him as the season has gone on. I hope it continues.
I loved how he stripped the ball from behind against Ali in the first half when Ali thought he had a mismatch and was going to take him one-on-one. I believe the steal led to a Bobcat basket.

Later in the game, when Ali was going to single-handedly lead the Zips to victory, Schmock left his man to double up Ali in the corner. I believe Akron came up empty on both possessions.
Exactly - both of those sequences are great examples of how well Schmuck played last night!
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bornacatfan
1/5/2022 8:35 PM
BurritoBuggy4 wrote:expand_more
Schmock could have reasonably garnered some "player of the game" votes last night for his contributions. Obviously Sears, Carter, and arguably others had better all-around nights, but Schmock's timely steals, dime(s), and buckets were huge for us. Great improvement from him as the season has gone on. I hope it continues.
I loved how he stripped the ball from behind against Ali in the first half when Ali thought he had a mismatch and was going to take him one-on-one. I believe the steal led to a Bobcat basket.

Later in the game, when Ali was going to single-handedly lead the Zips to victory, Schmock left his man to double up Ali in the corner. I believe Akron came up empty on both possessions.
Exactly - both of those sequences are great examples of how well Schmuck played last night!

I do NOT think that is his last name....

That was a great win in a place that is hard to win. Normally do not think much about officials and certainly do not take time to critique but that was several minutes of horse hockey after the T on the Akron end. Talked to my Mom in GA who turned it off she was so disgusted. I did not think we were getting out with a win.

ALways a good trip home when you win at the JAR. Sears was really good post game on the radio. Team is playing well and really seems to like each other. Nice start to MAC play.
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Jeff McKinney
1/5/2022 11:19 PM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
Schmock could have reasonably garnered some "player of the game" votes last night for his contributions. Obviously Sears, Carter, and arguably others had better all-around nights, but Schmock's timely steals, dime(s), and buckets were huge for us. Great improvement from him as the season has gone on. I hope it continues.
I loved how he stripped the ball from behind against Ali in the first half when Ali thought he had a mismatch and was going to take him one-on-one. I believe the steal led to a Bobcat basket.

Later in the game, when Ali was going to single-handedly lead the Zips to victory, Schmock left his man to double up Ali in the corner. I believe Akron came up empty on both possessions.
Exactly - both of those sequences are great examples of how well Schmuck played last night!

I do NOT think that is his last name....

That was a great win in a place that is hard to win. Normally do not think much about officials and certainly do not take time to critique but that was several minutes of horse hockey after the T on the Akron end. Talked to my Mom in GA who turned it off she was so disgusted. I did not think we were getting out with a win.

ALways a good trip home when you win at the JAR. Sears was really good post game on the radio. Team is playing well and really seems to like each other. Nice start to MAC play.
Agree on the officiating after the T on Coach Groce.
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Jeff McKinney
1/5/2022 11:21 PM
Casper71 wrote:expand_more
Really good win…but lots of failures in the lane! And lots of bad possessions. Need to learn to value each and every possession. When we move the ball and don’t force things and play good defense we are really good.
IMO, we had "some" bad possessions, not "lots". But I agree we are a better team when we move the ball.
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ohiocatfan1
1/6/2022 1:09 PM
Cleveburg Bri wrote:expand_more
Nothing to add someone else hasn't already said, but that game was just all kinds of fun. I absolutely thought they were going to lose it after that stretch that included Boals' T, a bunch of Carter's close-but-not-quite shooting around the rim, a couple of over-excited fouls, and the 10 second violation, but they still played a lot of great basketball and hung tough at the end.

- Roderick shoots 50% from three (okay, 1 of 2)
- Carter made a couple of threes
- Defense was stout
- And Sears looks to be developing into a stud. Within spitting distance of 20 ppg. Ohio hasn't had that in nearly 20 years.

I'm bummed about Mcday leaving, but this is a fun group. Not yet convinced it's made for upsets of the top 25, but still a fun team.
Carter does a lot of good things but at the rim? Keep track each game of how many times he misses at point-blank range. This has been a consistent theme his entire career.
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stub
1/6/2022 6:28 PM
Carter does a lot of good things but at the rim? Keep track each game of how many times he misses at point-blank range. This has been a consistent theme his entire career.
[/QUOTE]There are lots of times I think he should be banking when he chooses to do otherwise.
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Andrew Ruck
1/6/2022 7:08 PM
JC has never been a great shooter at any length. It is pretty much what keeps him from being a truly elite player.
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OhioCatFan
1/6/2022 10:41 PM
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Carter does a lot of good things but at the rim? Keep track each game of how many times he misses at point-blank range. This has been a consistent theme his entire career.
It's what I call "Chad Gill Disease." Chad was a good ball player, but he'd miss point blank layups, and then make much more difficult shots from outside. I liked Chad as a player, as i liked his dad of Elite 8 fame. But, he seemed to have troubles with bunnies.
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Deciduous Forest Cat
1/7/2022 8:01 AM
Carter's scoring was a huge reason we build the early lead. It was frustrating to watch him miss in close late (during a stretch when the whole team was cold), but he was productive overall getting to the rim.
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FearLeon
1/7/2022 9:26 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Carter does a lot of good things but at the rim? Keep track each game of how many times he misses at point-blank range. This has been a consistent theme his entire career.
It's what I call "Chad Gill Disease." Chad was a good ball player, but he'd miss point blank layups, and then make much more difficult shots from outside. I liked Chad as a player, as i liked his dad of Elite 8 fame. But, he seemed to have troubles with bunnies.
Larry Hunter's first recruit. I'll always respect him playing at Ohio. I still don't know how Larry won 12 games his first year with Jerry Lebold at center. Some guy named Dave Jamerson scoring 30 per game had something to do with those 12 wins.
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