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Topic: Official Game 27 Thread: Kent St.
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Recovering Journalist
2/16/2022 3:16 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
Having seen the Cats play countless times at the MACC since 1980, it's been my experience that we generally don't play well there -- subpar shooting % (with the exceptions of the great Dave Jamerson and, ahem, Rush Floyd) and lots of turnovers. Maybe it's the tight confines and/or poor lighting, I'm not sure.

I hope the team proves me wrong this Friday.
The easier explanation is that Kent State almost always has a team in the top third of the league. At the risk of sounding like TOS, it's hard to win on the road against a quality team.
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Victory
2/16/2022 3:20 PM
greencat wrote:expand_more
ESPN matchup predictor gives Kent a 53% chance to win
Team Rankings . com says 52%
According to KenPom we should win by 5 points. Pomeroy is usually a little different from most of the others.

Sagarin would have us favored by 0.5 to 1.

Torvik has Ohio by about 3.

Massey say 68-67 and 53% in favor of Kent St.

I get 65-64 in favor of Ohio.
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Cleveburg Bri
2/16/2022 4:39 PM
I've been going to the Ohio games in Kent for quite a while. I remember we won the first time I went (2000), but I think our record since has been something like 3-16. And I think I missed a couple of those wins as well. I don't have many fond memories in the MACC.
Last Edited: 2/16/2022 4:40:24 PM by Cleveburg Bri
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shabamon
2/16/2022 4:53 PM
Cleveburg Bri wrote:expand_more
I've been going to the Ohio games in Kent for quite a while. I remember we won the first time I went (2000), but I think our record since has been something like 3-16. And I think I missed a couple of those wins as well. I don't have many fond memories in the MACC.
We have not won at Kent since 2014. I know 2011 was the first time in a long time and I was in the building when we won in 2013.
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Cleveburg Bri
2/16/2022 8:32 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
I've been going to the Ohio games in Kent for quite a while. I remember we won the first time I went (2000), but I think our record since has been something like 3-16. And I think I missed a couple of those wins as well. I don't have many fond memories in the MACC.
We have not won at Kent since 2014. I know 2011 was the first time in a long time and I was in the building when we won in 2013.

Tough environment, and usually tough teams. Does anyone know a way to find Ohio's away records at the other the MAC venues?
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Cellis033
2/16/2022 8:44 PM
Cleveburg Bri wrote:expand_more
I've been going to the Ohio games in Kent for quite a while. I remember we won the first time I went (2000), but I think our record since has been something like 3-16. And I think I missed a couple of those wins as well. I don't have many fond memories in the MACC.
We have not won at Kent since 2014. I know 2011 was the first time in a long time and I was in the building when we won in 2013.

Tough environment, and usually tough teams. Does anyone know a way to find Ohio's away records at the other the MAC venues?
Found these stats on the Kent State basketball site. Kent is 16-5 at the MACC against us since 2001, we have been snake bitten in the MACC, not having won in that building since 2014.

Here are our all time away records unless noted. SOURCE OU Mens Bball website
@ Kent : 5-16 SINCE 2000
@ Fiami : 40-63
@ Toledo: 19-41
@ Northern Illinois: 5-5 SINCE 2006
@ Ball State: 19-18
@ Buffalo: 9-4 SINCE 2011
@ Bowling Green: 5-15 SINCE 2000
@ Akron: 5-16 SINCE 2003
@ WMU: 3-9 SINCE 2005
@ EMU: 6-4 SINCE 2005
@ CMU: 4-7 SINCE 2000
Last Edited: 2/17/2022 3:07:52 PM by Cellis033
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Ted Thompson
2/16/2022 9:35 PM

 

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Cellis033
2/16/2022 9:47 PM
Just purchased my ticket!
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RSBobcat
2/16/2022 10:18 PM
Ted Thompson wrote:expand_more
Great social media push from Boals!!!!!
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OhioCatFan
2/17/2022 12:16 AM
Is Miami in charge of Twitter warnings now? The short clip of the waving of the Bobcat flag carried the warning that it might contain sensitive material! WTH!
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Andrew Ruck
2/17/2022 9:05 AM
Cellis033 wrote:expand_more
Here are our all time away records unless noted.
@ Kent : 5-16 SINCE 2000
@ Fiami : 40-63
@ Toledo: 19-41
@ Northern Illinois: 5-5 SINCE 2006
@ Ball State: 19-18
@ Buffalo: 9-4 SINCE 2011
@ Bowling Green: 5-15 SINCE 2000
@ Akron: 5-16 SINCE 2003
@ WMU: 3-9 SINCE 2005
@ EMU: 6-4 SINCE 2005
@ CMU: 4-7 SINCE 2000
The success @ Buffalo is truly amazing given their success in that stretch.
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Deciduous Forest Cat
2/17/2022 9:21 AM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
Here are our all time away records unless noted.
@ Kent : 5-16 SINCE 2000
@ Fiami : 40-63
@ Toledo: 19-41
@ Northern Illinois: 5-5 SINCE 2006
@ Ball State: 19-18
@ Buffalo: 9-4 SINCE 2011
@ Bowling Green: 5-15 SINCE 2000
@ Akron: 5-16 SINCE 2003
@ WMU: 3-9 SINCE 2005
@ EMU: 6-4 SINCE 2005
@ CMU: 4-7 SINCE 2000
The success @ Buffalo is truly amazing given their success in that stretch.
Are you sure about that stat AT Buffalo? We would only have played there 12 times max since 2011. We've had some success there but that seems off.

Edit: I'll be damned. My math is correct in that there could only have been 12 games not 13 going back to 2011, but we were indeed 8-4 over the last 12 seasons on the road versus arguably the most successful program in the conference during that stretch. I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it. Life on the road indeed. If only we could figure out Toledo.
Last Edited: 2/17/2022 9:49:25 AM by Deciduous Forest Cat
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spongeBOB CATpants
2/17/2022 10:22 AM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
Here are our all time away records unless noted.
@ Kent : 5-16 SINCE 2000
@ Fiami : 40-63
@ Toledo: 19-41
@ Northern Illinois: 5-5 SINCE 2006
@ Ball State: 19-18
@ Buffalo: 9-4 SINCE 2011
@ Bowling Green: 5-15 SINCE 2000
@ Akron: 5-16 SINCE 2003
@ WMU: 3-9 SINCE 2005
@ EMU: 6-4 SINCE 2005
@ CMU: 4-7 SINCE 2000
The success @ Buffalo is truly amazing given their success in that stretch.
Are you sure about that stat AT Buffalo? We would only have played there 12 times max since 2011. We've had some success there but that seems off.

Edit: I'll be damned. My math is correct in that there could only have been 12 games not 13 going back to 2011, but we were indeed 8-4 over the last 12 seasons on the road versus arguably the most successful program in the conference during that stretch. I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it. Life on the road indeed. If only we could figure out Toledo.
Bowling Green sticks out to me too, ouch!
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Pataskala
2/17/2022 11:05 AM
A win tomorrow night would put Ohio at 14-2 in the MAC. That would tie the best 16-game MAC record in program history (2012-13) and would match the program's most MAC wins in a season (four other teams had 14 wins in 18-game seasons: 1983-84, 1984-85, 1985-86, 1993-94). Best percentage in program history goes to the 1964-65 team at .917 (11-1).
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Cellis033
2/17/2022 3:07 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
Here are our all time away records unless noted.
@ Kent : 5-16 SINCE 2000
@ Fiami : 40-63
@ Toledo: 19-41
@ Northern Illinois: 5-5 SINCE 2006
@ Ball State: 19-18
@ Buffalo: 9-4 SINCE 2011
@ Bowling Green: 5-15 SINCE 2000
@ Akron: 5-16 SINCE 2003
@ WMU: 3-9 SINCE 2005
@ EMU: 6-4 SINCE 2005
@ CMU: 4-7 SINCE 2000
The success @ Buffalo is truly amazing given their success in that stretch.
Are you sure about that stat AT Buffalo? We would only have played there 12 times max since 2011. We've had some success there but that seems off.

Edit: I'll be damned. My math is correct in that there could only have been 12 games not 13 going back to 2011, but we were indeed 8-4 over the last 12 seasons on the road versus arguably the most successful program in the conference during that stretch. I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it. Life on the road indeed. If only we could figure out Toledo.
Huh, rechecked stats and it says 9-4 away record on the OU website dating back to February 2011 so that includes half of the 2010-11 season. I agree, very remarkable road record compared to the immense success Buffalo had during that time with multiple MAC tourney wins! I was surprised at the Bowling Green stat. Seems like another house of horrors for us.
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Shawn Sellers
2/17/2022 3:47 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
Having seen the Cats play countless times at the MACC since 1980, it's been my experience that we generally don't play well there -- subpar shooting % (with the exceptions of the great Dave Jamerson and, ahem, Rush Floyd) and lots of turnovers. Maybe it's the tight confines and/or poor lighting, I'm not sure.

I hope the team proves me wrong this Friday.
Does anyone remember which year the great comeback was at Kent in the early 90s? My memory is being down by at least 3 scores with less than a minute left, and some big steals and Rush Floyd shots, but that might be my over exaggerated big fish story.
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MonroeClassmate
2/17/2022 4:03 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
Having seen the Cats play countless times at the MACC since 1980, it's been my experience that we generally don't play well there.

Maybe it's the tight confines and/or poor lighting, I'm not sure.
Which of those factors caused a certain player to dribble out the clock instead of going for it and down only a point?
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SBH
2/17/2022 4:05 PM
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Does anyone remember which year the great comeback was at Kent in the early 90s? My memory is being down by at least 3 scores with less than a minute left, and some big steals and Rush Floyd shots, but that might be my over exaggerated big fish story.

Yep, I was there. Down 9 with 1 minute to go. Hit a 2, then 3 3s...including 2 by Rush Floyd I believe. That wasn't a particularly good Kent team and we played poorly.

1993. Saturday afternoon game.
Last Edited: 2/17/2022 4:09:31 PM by SBH
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FearLeon
2/17/2022 4:55 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
Does anyone remember which year the great comeback was at Kent in the early 90s? My memory is being down by at least 3 scores with less than a minute left, and some big steals and Rush Floyd shots, but that might be my over exaggerated big fish story.

Yep, I was there. Down 9 with 1 minute to go. Hit a 2, then 3 3s...including 2 by Rush Floyd I believe. That wasn't a particularly good Kent team and we played poorly.

1993. Saturday afternoon game.
Actually I think it was January 19, 1991...Saturday afternoon...Ohio won 60-59. Floyd hit two 3's and Estis had one in the final 25 seconds..I think. One of the most remarkable wins in Ohio Bobcats history.
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Shawn Sellers
2/17/2022 5:05 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
Does anyone remember which year the great comeback was at Kent in the early 90s? My memory is being down by at least 3 scores with less than a minute left, and some big steals and Rush Floyd shots, but that might be my over exaggerated big fish story.

Yep, I was there. Down 9 with 1 minute to go. Hit a 2, then 3 3s...including 2 by Rush Floyd I believe. That wasn't a particularly good Kent team and we played poorly.

1993. Saturday afternoon game.
Actually I think it was January 19, 1991...Saturday afternoon...Ohio won 60-59. Floyd hit two 3's and Estis had one in the final 25 seconds..I think. One of the most remarkable wins in Ohio Bobcats history.
Yeah, that sounds like it’s right. My memory of that was watching the game in the lobby of a dorm, and I would have been in Sargent Hall that year. One of my favorite Bobcat comeback wins.
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BillyTheCat
2/17/2022 5:10 PM
That was the ONLY 3 that Chad hit that year!

Next year he was a regular in the lineup
Last Edited: 2/17/2022 5:30:55 PM by BillyTheCat
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FearLeon
2/17/2022 5:13 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Does anyone remember which year the great comeback was at Kent in the early 90s? My memory is being down by at least 3 scores with less than a minute left, and some big steals and Rush Floyd shots, but that might be my over exaggerated big fish story.
That was the game that put Chad Estis into the rotation for good. Down 11 and between Rush and Chad the Cat's stormed back.

Yep, I was there. Down 9 with 1 minute to go. Hit a 2, then 3 3s...including 2 by Rush Floyd I believe. That wasn't a particularly good Kent team and we played poorly.

1993. Saturday afternoon game.

That was the game that put Chad Estis into the rotation for good. Down 11 and between Rush and Chad the Cat's stormed back.

92-93 Chad played in every game, but that was his coming out party.
That is 100% correct about Estis. Floyd from that point went backwards. He did enjoy Court Street...haha...can't blame him.
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FearLeon
2/17/2022 5:15 PM
Shawn Sellers wrote:expand_more
Does anyone remember which year the great comeback was at Kent in the early 90s? My memory is being down by at least 3 scores with less than a minute left, and some big steals and Rush Floyd shots, but that might be my over exaggerated big fish story.

Yep, I was there. Down 9 with 1 minute to go. Hit a 2, then 3 3s...including 2 by Rush Floyd I believe. That wasn't a particularly good Kent team and we played poorly.

1993. Saturday afternoon game.
Actually I think it was January 19, 1991...Saturday afternoon...Ohio won 60-59. Floyd hit two 3's and Estis had one in the final 25 seconds..I think. One of the most remarkable wins in Ohio Bobcats history.
Yeah, that sounds like it’s right. My memory of that was watching the game in the lobby of a dorm, and I would have been in Sargent Hall that year. One of my favorite Bobcat comeback wins.
Yep....Michael Reghi was on the call as well...which it made it more spectacular.
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SBH
2/17/2022 5:20 PM
You're right, it was 1991. I just looked it up in a newspaper archive.

With 1 minute left we were down 10.

Estis hit a 2 with 50 seconds to go. Then we got a steal and Estis missed a 2, but Lewis Jeter got the rebound and backed it behind the three-point line and hit a three.

We got another steal and Estis hit a 3.

Then we got a stop and Rush Floyd hit a 3 with 1 second to go.

To give you some perspective on how long ago that was, the Akron Beacon Journal's Sunday print edition had 321 pages.

As for Mr. Reghi, it was a cold and blustery day and my bride and I enjoyed watching him hold down his toupee as he walked into the arena. This was pre-hair plugs.
Last Edited: 2/17/2022 5:30:28 PM by SBH
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BillyTheCat
2/17/2022 5:27 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
Does anyone remember which year the great comeback was at Kent in the early 90s? My memory is being down by at least 3 scores with less than a minute left, and some big steals and Rush Floyd shots, but that might be my over exaggerated big fish story.
That was the game that put Chad Estis into the rotation for good. Down 11 and between Rush and Chad the Cat's stormed back.

Yep, I was there. Down 9 with 1 minute to go. Hit a 2, then 3 3s...including 2 by Rush Floyd I believe. That wasn't a particularly good Kent team and we played poorly.

1993. Saturday afternoon game.

That was the game that put Chad Estis into the rotation for good. Down 11 and between Rush and Chad the Cat's stormed back.

92-93 Chad played in every game, but that was his coming out party.
That is 100% correct about Estis. Floyd from that point went backwards. He did enjoy Court Street...haha...can't blame him.
Rush would still enjoy Court Street! One of the most fun guys ever.
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