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100%Cat
2/16/2022 9:02 AM
Bobcat1998 wrote:expand_more
I love how all of the "experts" that write about us or outsiders who call our games talk about losing Jason Preston but Boals has done an outstanding job of balancing all of the guys out. I live and die by the Blue Ribbon Report and look at who was missing last night just from that edition: DW3, Lundo and Jason Carter and we still win over a hot MAC team fighting for Cleveland. The development of Ezuma and the trust Boals has put into Schmock and Miles lately is amazing. And the bench guys continue to be so positive and engaged. I saw Sam Towns multiple times coming out of timeouts talking with Olumide or another player being positive and expressive. Just a great culture right now.
I feel like Miles needs a few more shot attempts per game. He's been pretty solid this year, and his shooting in the first half against EMU might have saved that game for us.
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OUcats82
2/16/2022 9:23 AM
Bobcat1998 wrote:expand_more
I love how all of the "experts" that write about us or outsiders who call our games talk about losing Jason Preston but Boals has done an outstanding job of balancing all of the guys out. I live and die by the Blue Ribbon Report and look at who was missing last night just from that edition: DW3, Lundo and Jason Carter and we still win over a hot MAC team fighting for Cleveland. The development of Ezuma and the trust Boals has put into Schmock and Miles lately is amazing. And the bench guys continue to be so positive and engaged. I saw Sam Towns multiple times coming out of timeouts talking with Olumide or another player being positive and expressive. Just a great culture right now.
I had to follow on the ESPN gamecast last night. BVP, Sears, and Tommy were awesome but it was great to see what appeared to be a few other players hitting big shots late to help build and keep a comfortable margin.

Can't remember if the MAC gives out a 6th man of the year award but Tommy gets my vote!

8K on a Tuesday night is fantastic!
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SBH
2/16/2022 10:15 AM
100%Cat wrote:expand_more
I love how all of the "experts" that write about us or outsiders who call our games talk about losing Jason Preston but Boals has done an outstanding job of balancing all of the guys out. I live and die by the Blue Ribbon Report and look at who was missing last night just from that edition: DW3, Lundo and Jason Carter and we still win over a hot MAC team fighting for Cleveland. The development of Ezuma and the trust Boals has put into Schmock and Miles lately is amazing. And the bench guys continue to be so positive and engaged. I saw Sam Towns multiple times coming out of timeouts talking with Olumide or another player being positive and expressive. Just a great culture right now.
I feel like Miles needs a few more shot attempts per game. He's been pretty solid this year, and his shooting in the first half against EMU might have saved that game for us.
BobcatSquared on the chat last night insisted that, outside of EMU game, Miles has given us "nothing" this year. I can't disagree more.
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Andrew Ruck
2/16/2022 10:26 AM
I really think Miami gave us their best and it still wasn't even close to enough. Take out the final 3 ugly desperate attempts and they were 13 for 24 from 3. 54%! Their defense wasn't bad enough to give up 90+ points. It sounds weird but I really think they should be proud to only lose by 13 with the way we played. Miami's guards had a great night. Big men, not so much.

22 free throws made for us and 3 for them. Really the difference in the game. 18 fouls on them and only 7 for us. This is just a norm of the program now as Boals clearly coaches and values drawing fouls and not committing them. I think this, combined with the same approach and dominance on the turnover discussion...is why we are not prone to letdown games against inferior opponents.

BVP...what can you say. What a performance. 9 for 12 from the field and 9 for 10 from the line! A perfect 6 for 6 from 2. Unreal. Credited with 3 steals but had a hand in forcing more turnovers than that. 6 assists, most of them really crafty and tough. And of course 10 boards. If Miami had fans, I am quite sure they would loathe site of BVP and the sounds of his name.

Sears with 11 boards including some that truly defied physics. He seemed better with some nice dishes last night but there are still a few times he needs to bail on some of his overmatched drives and dish it out.

I am fine with Roderick continuing to start and Schmock coming off the bench...but you can tell by who Boals has on the court in crunch time whose job it really is at this point. My heart continues to break as Roderick's shot attempts continually rattle out. Tommy is 14 for his last 26 three point attempts! Insert fire emojis here. A true Godsend as a 6th man for us this year.

Solid crowd. The game was exciting enough to make the patch of lazy students stand for the last 15 minutes or so. How you can possibly be a student with free admission to this team and not happily and aggressively attend every game is beyond me. I expect a GREAT crowd for the home finale next Friday night...as good if not better than the Toledo game.
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FearLeon
2/16/2022 10:50 AM
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Alan Swank
2/16/2022 10:52 AM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
Any reason as to why Russ has used the phrase “legal defense” so many times in the first half?? Odd.
It was the strangest thing. Notice he didn't use the phrase once in the second half.
They use a bunch of made up cutesy phrases over and over and over again that I've never figured out.
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FearLeon
2/16/2022 10:53 AM
cjlipps110 wrote:expand_more
Yeah “legal defense” is way overused tonight.
It was the strangest thing how many times he used it in the first half. I noticed he didn't say it once in the second half.
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bobcatsquared
2/16/2022 10:59 AM
SBH wrote:expand_more
BobcatSquared on the chat last night insisted that, outside of EMU game, Miles has given us "nothing" this year. I can't disagree more.
SBH, back to channeling his boy down in Mar-a-Largo again. To be precise, I mentioned that he has given us "nothing" in recent games leading up to the EMU game. And I stand by that as he averaged 4 ppg the previous 5 games and 5 ppg over the 14 games before last Saturday.

Maybe the DOJ can request a transcript from last night's chat?
Last Edited: 2/16/2022 11:01:34 AM by bobcatsquared
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shabamon
2/16/2022 11:25 AM
Mark and BVP both directly commented on how mismatched it was in the post in our favor. A common refrain on the Miami board is how they can never land that impactful 6'8'' 230+ MAC level forward. Which got me to thinking - who was the last truly impactful big at Miami? A player who shoots a higher percentage inside 12 feet, double double threat, shot blocker or space eater? I think I'd take Doug Taylor over anyone they've had in the last decade. Logan McClane occasionally was okay, I guess. Do you have to go all the way back to Mavunga?

I rewatched some moments on the ESPN3 archive. Miami's defense was inexcusably bad in the second half. Schmock's uncontested drive on what looked worse than NBA All-Star game defense drove home the point, but other moments were just as bad. The slingshot pass to Tommy for a three had three guys in BVP's vicinity and only one defender on the opposite side. There was another play where Mark passed along the base line to Miles for a corner three. Dae Dae Grant was Miles' defender and he was on the opposite side of the key when Miles released the shot. It was the kind of mistake you see in 4th grade ball. How Jack Owens didn't replace anyone or rip the team a new one is anyone's guess. They need to make a change. There's no excuse for a team with this many veteran players to play this lost.
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Cellis033
2/16/2022 11:49 AM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
Mark and BVP both directly commented on how mismatched it was in the post in our favor. A common refrain on the Miami board is how they can never land that impactful 6'8'' 230+ MAC level forward. Which got me to thinking - who was the last truly impactful big at Miami? A player who shoots a higher percentage inside 12 feet, double double threat, shot blocker or space eater? I think I'd take Doug Taylor over anyone they've had in the last decade. Logan McClane occasionally was okay, I guess. Do you have to go all the way back to Mavunga?

I rewatched some moments on the ESPN3 archive. Miami's defense was inexcusably bad in the second half. Schmock's uncontested drive on what looked worse than NBA All-Star game defense drove home the point, but other moments were just as bad. The slingshot pass to Tommy for a three had three guys in BVP's vicinity and only one defender on the opposite side. There was another play where Mark passed along the base line to Miles for a corner three. Dae Dae Grant was Miles' defender and he was on the opposite side of the key when Miles released the shot. It was the kind of mistake you see in 4th grade ball. How Jack Owens didn't replace anyone or rip the team a new one is anyone's guess. They need to make a change. There's no excuse for a team with this many veteran players to play this lost.
I truly believe Owens is on the hot seat at Miami. Charlie did it better man…. I never got to see him coach but I miss that man. I think he took joy in even seeing the O-Zone get loud.
Last Edited: 2/16/2022 11:50:24 AM by Cellis033
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ShoreCat
2/16/2022 12:17 PM
Last impactful Miami big....again, Devin Davis? There has to be somebody after him.

I miss Charlie. National treasure. Added so much to this rivalry.

Great, great win.
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spongeBOB CATpants
2/16/2022 12:18 PM
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:expand_more
With BVP out and Carter questionable (?) this is the Mark Sears show. This is the game that can put him back up there with Rollins in the POY race.

Must, must, must, have a good game tonight. More importantly, he must make good decisions with the basketball.
Confirmed that BVP is out? Haven't seen it officially anywhere.
I haven't seen confirmation but assuming so if he was in a boot last night. I was at the EMU game (missed the injury) but was able to see him off to the side with the trainer. He had a towel over his head for the most part before they decided to call it and get ice on it. His reaction made me think that he rolled it pretty good so I'd expect some significant swelling that would probably need to clear out.

There might be a chance that he tries to go but with the tournament a few weeks away, it would be a bold move to play him tonight IMO.
FORTUNE FAVORS THE BOLD.

All time performance from BVP. Not sure I've seen such a dominating performance from a Bobcat forward (excluding GT, maybe a couple from Tone Malone?). They had absolutely no answer for this man. What impressed me the most was all the different ways he scored and his ability to finish with the left. 4 assists away from a 30pt triple double, remarkable. The baseline drive and slam with the right hand was absolutely beautiful.

Tommy Schmock. This kid is surging at the right time. Dare I say that he hit a couple 3's from DJ Cooper land?! What a fantastic addition by Boals.

Role players stepped up. No JC. IJ getting first career start. A lot of good things happened beyond just the W.

Just an overall remarkable night in the Convo. That's exactly how a Tuesday night against Fiami should look (and sound) like.
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spongeBOB CATpants
2/16/2022 12:37 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
BobcatSquared on the chat last night insisted that, outside of EMU game, Miles has given us "nothing" this year. I can't disagree more.
SBH, back to channeling his boy down in Mar-a-Largo again. To be precise, I mentioned that he has given us "nothing" in recent games leading up to the EMU game. And I stand by that as he averaged 4 ppg the previous 5 games and 5 ppg over the 14 games before last Saturday.

Maybe the DOJ can request a transcript from last night's chat?
I agree that Miles wasn't giving much of anything prior to EMU. He really helped us against Buffalo but other than that his two best games were against the D2 schools. Not taking anything away from those games because they still counted towards our record but we should've easily handled both.

That being said, he's stepped it up the last two games. We'll need that to continue down the stretch.
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Steve
2/16/2022 1:51 PM
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Never gets old: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6ToCRgH8fg

It's Fiami week!
No matter how many times I watch this I still get nervous when DeVaughn goes to the line. And I still get goosebumps when Tommy hits the 3.
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bobcatsquared
2/16/2022 5:18 PM
El Gato Roberto wrote:expand_more
Coach said there were a couple of recruits in the house tonight. Nice atmosphere had to impress them!
Would love to have names for these recruits. Got any thing, Arkley? Ted?
Last Edited: 2/16/2022 5:19:06 PM by bobcatsquared
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SBH
2/16/2022 7:41 PM
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:expand_more
BobcatSquared on the chat last night insisted that, outside of EMU game, Miles has given us "nothing" this year. I can't disagree more.
SBH, back to channeling his boy down in Mar-a-Largo again. To be precise, I mentioned that he has given us "nothing" in recent games leading up to the EMU game. And I stand by that as he averaged 4 ppg the previous 5 games and 5 ppg over the 14 games before last Saturday.

Maybe the DOJ can request a transcript from last night's chat?
I agree that Miles wasn't giving much of anything prior to EMU. He really helped us against Buffalo but other than that his two best games were against the D2 schools. Not taking anything away from those games because they still counted towards our record but we should've easily handled both.

That being said, he's stepped it up the last two games. We'll need that to continue down the stretch.
Check out his stats against Belmont, Cleveland State, Marshall and Miami. He was a solid contributor in those games. These are not D2 schools. Then he got Covid.
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bornacatfan
2/16/2022 9:45 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
Which got me to thinking - who was the last truly impactful big at Miami? A player who shoots a higher percentage inside 12 feet, double double threat, shot blocker or space eater? I think I'd take Doug Taylor over anyone they've had in the last decade. Logan McClane occasionally was okay, I guess. Do you have to go all the way back to Mavunga?
I think Fletch and Mavunga would be the most recent. Fletcher is still the strength coach at Illinois (and a very good one at that) and Mavunga may still be overseas
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Jeff McKinney
2/16/2022 10:52 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Any reason as to why Russ has used the phrase “legal defense” so many times in the first half?? Odd.
It was the strangest thing. Notice he didn't use the phrase once in the second half.
They use a bunch of made up cutesy phrases over and over and over again that I've never figured out.

Part of the reason is to entertain along with conveying information. I enjoy it. We can always ask them if we aren't familiar with every term.
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RSBobcat
2/16/2022 11:04 PM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
Any reason as to why Russ has used the phrase “legal defense” so many times in the first half?? Odd.
It was the strangest thing. Notice he didn't use the phrase once in the second half.
They use a bunch of made up cutesy phrases over and over and over again that I've never figured out.

Part of the reason is to entertain along with conveying information. I enjoy it. We can always ask them if we aren't familiar with every term.
Yep - Russ has started using the term "Infotainment" as well at the start of broadcasts. He is The Best in the MAC - And one of The Best Nationally at Both - Information AND Entertainment!!!
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OhioCatFan
2/17/2022 12:13 AM
Speaking of terminology: Coach Boals keeps referring to various segments of the games as "wars." To me he should be calling these periods "battles" and the whole game the "war." You know we won the battle the first five minutes and the last five minutes and we won the war (i.e., the game). Not a big deal, but his terminology just seems odd to me. But, in the end, he can use any crazy language he wants as long as he's coaching as well as he is right now!
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FearLeon
2/17/2022 1:52 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Speaking of terminology: Coach Boals keeps referring to various segments of the games as "wars." To me he should be calling these periods "battles" and the whole game the "war." You know we won the battle the first five minutes and the last five minutes and we won the war (i.e., the game). Not a big deal, but his terminology just seems odd to me. But, in the end, he can use any crazy language he wants as long as he's coaching as well as he is right now!
Hell....Boals can use the phrase "legal defense" if he wants too. Whatever he says and how he says it is working 100%.
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bobcatsquared
2/17/2022 7:07 AM
RSBobcat wrote:expand_more
Yep - Russ has started using the term "Infotainment" as well at the start of broadcasts. He is The Best in the MAC - And one of The Best Nationally at Both - Information AND Entertainment!!!
How many announcers from other MAC basketball teams have you listened to? Nationally? This is a comparison I know I can't make due to a lack of sample size. Maybe you can.
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OU_Country
2/17/2022 10:35 AM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Yep - Russ has started using the term "Infotainment" as well at the start of broadcasts. He is The Best in the MAC - And one of The Best Nationally at Both - Information AND Entertainment!!!
How many announcers from other MAC basketball teams have you listened to? Nationally? This is a comparison I know I can't make due to a lack of sample size. Maybe you can.
I'll say this -- there are a lot of PBP folks at "bigger" schools that aren't as good as Russ & Rob, or Marty & (her name is escaping me but she is excellent - ugh!). I used to listen to probably 6-8 non-Ohio college games a week on TuneIn when it was free, and very seldom was the pairing on the other end as good as our guys. Sure, I'm a little biased, but it's stunning how bad some of these folks are in terms of their severe bias on air. The use of "we" on the regular, the consistent complaints about officials only for their team. I'll just say we see a difference from that aspect on the Ohio end with everyone involved in covering men's and women's basketball.

There are some guys regionally that I think are really good: Cincinnati's Dan Hoard (but his color commentators are not great), Dayton's Larry Hansgen, Butler's Mark Minner. Miami's Steve Baker is solid as well.
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RSBobcat
2/17/2022 11:02 AM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Yep - Russ has started using the term "Infotainment" as well at the start of broadcasts. He is The Best in the MAC - And one of The Best Nationally at Both - Information AND Entertainment!!!
How many announcers from other MAC basketball teams have you listened to? Nationally? This is a comparison I know I can't make due to a lack of sample size. Maybe you can.
Have listened to Many over several decades - easily dozens of announcers. On TV, radio, at home, on the net, on the radio in my car, etc., etc.
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