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Ziegler79
3/1/2022 9:14 PM
Jeff Boals ain’t going anywhere ☝️
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RSBobcat
3/1/2022 10:38 PM
Ziegler79 wrote:expand_more
Jeff Boals ain’t going anywhere ☝️
Not soon anyway it looks....but wait - There is still Cleveland/MAC Tourney....???
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Ziegler79
3/1/2022 11:01 PM
That’s right! I will be watching til the bitter end my friend!
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Andrew Ruck
3/2/2022 10:16 AM
RSBobcat wrote:expand_more
Jeff Boals ain’t going anywhere ☝️
Not soon anyway it looks....but wait - There is still Cleveland/MAC Tourney....???
At this time exactly 10 years ago, Ohio was coming off a disappointing loss to Kent to fall to 10-5 in the MAC with 1 game to go. Less than 30 days later, John Groce was the head coach of Illinois.
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spongeBOB CATpants
3/2/2022 10:26 AM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
Jeff Boals ain’t going anywhere ☝️
Not soon anyway it looks....but wait - There is still Cleveland/MAC Tourney....???
At this time exactly 10 years ago, Ohio was coming off a disappointing loss to Kent to fall to 10-5 in the MAC with 1 game to go. Less than 30 days later, John Groce was the head coach of Illinois.
LOL right?! Not sure what happened to change the fact that Boals is potentially a hot commodity?
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OhioCatFan
3/2/2022 10:57 AM
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:expand_more
Jeff Boals ain’t going anywhere ☝️
Not soon anyway it looks....but wait - There is still Cleveland/MAC Tourney....???
At this time exactly 10 years ago, Ohio was coming off a disappointing loss to Kent to fall to 10-5 in the MAC with 1 game to go. Less than 30 days later, John Groce was the head coach of Illinois.
LOL right?! Not sure what happened to change the fact that Boals is potentially a hot commodity?
I can't understand how no one else can see the handwriting on the wall: Boals will be the coach of the Cavaliers next season. It's close enough that he can still commute via personal helicopter from New Albany.
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GraffZ06
3/2/2022 8:39 PM
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:expand_more
Jeff Boals ain’t going anywhere ☝️
Not soon anyway it looks....but wait - There is still Cleveland/MAC Tourney....???
At this time exactly 10 years ago, Ohio was coming off a disappointing loss to Kent to fall to 10-5 in the MAC with 1 game to go. Less than 30 days later, John Groce was the head coach of Illinois.
LOL right?! Not sure what happened to change the fact that Boals is potentially a hot commodity?
Nothing has changed except for those who still cling to the regular season having any bearing on the equation. It's all about March as you pointed out. Okay, to be fair your overall record needs to support the March success but beyond that not really (and 23 wins this year is plenty of support). If we make a run in Cleveland Boals will be a smoldering commodity. If we crash and burn in Cleveland he'll be back next year and bring his highly touted recruiting class to Athens.
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Ziegler79
3/2/2022 11:53 PM
Andrew, the fact that you were also friends with Joel Queen is awesome bro. He was my man when I was at OU!
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Ziegler79
3/3/2022 1:45 AM
Man I told Ted you guys all kill me on Ohio Bobcats knowledge. I’m a very passionate fan though, just trying to chime in.
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bobcatsquared
3/3/2022 6:30 AM
On the negative side - Holtman on the hot seat up in Columbus after losses to Maryland and Nebraska.
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Bobcat1998
3/3/2022 7:00 AM
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On the negative side - Holtman on the hot seat up in Columbus after losses to Maryland and Nebraska.
I've stated on other topics that I would be ok with Boals going to OSUcks or a team like Cincinnati -- as long as he's in a stable situation. I believe we have an up-and-coming young coach in Lamar Thornton. My biggest fear would be Boals and Thornton leaving together and taking Elmore James and A.J. Brown with them. Or even worse, BVP for a 6th year. Or DW3 for his final year -- or MARK SEARS!!!
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Ziegler79
3/3/2022 8:01 AM
Don’t give up, don’t ever give up. Sears will get hot at the right time and propel us to a MAC tournament championship.
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71 BOBCAT
3/3/2022 9:11 AM
From my perspective if the Bobcats win the tournament and win the 1st game in the NCAA's Boals will be the headliner by all the talking heads for a coaching change.
Short of this accomplishment Jeff will be back next year.
Then if BVP & DW return we will all be excited about next season, super excited.




GO BOBCATS
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bobcatsquared
3/3/2022 10:01 AM
. . . and BA posters will have its annual debate in October whether Boals will go 9 deep, 10 deep or 11 deep in his rotation. Only to see the rotation shrink to 7 by February, 2023.
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GraffZ06
3/3/2022 10:12 AM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
. . . and BA posters will have its annual debate in October whether Boals will go 9 deep, 10 deep or 11 deep in his rotation. Only to see the rotation shrink to 7 by February, 2023.
Depends how many players transfer, quit or get hurt in between there. But yes, likely true.
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GraffZ06
3/3/2022 10:21 AM
71 BOBCAT wrote:expand_more
From my perspective if the Bobcats win the tournament and win the 1st game in the NCAA's Boals will be the headliner by all the talking heads for a coaching change.
Short of this accomplishment Jeff will be back next year.
Then if BVP & DW return we will all be excited about next season, super excited.




GO BOBCATS
Agree with all that.

So, would we prefer to get hot and win in Cleveland this year. Go to NCAA back to back. Lose in 1st round (likely) and see Boals get hired away after year 3 - possibly taking some recruits with him or decommitting like happened with Groce.

Or would we rather fall in Cleveland. Head to CBI or call it a season but retain Boals. Get another year of BVP (maybe) along with return of DW3 and excellent recruiting class. Possibly make a sweet 16 type run where you lose Boals after year 4 but get the experience and exposure of that type tourney run and MAYBE since recruits are already here you retain some/all even after Boals leaves and MAYBE you've laid enough foundation in 4 years and 2 tourney runs to try and keep the recruiting momentum going with next coach?

To me, that's a lot of maybe's but I still like the sound of option 2 if I'm honest.
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OhioCatFan
3/3/2022 11:07 AM
Bobcat1998 wrote:expand_more
. . . My biggest fear would be Boals and Thornton leaving together and taking Elmore James and A.J. Brown with them. Or even worse, BVP for a 6th year. Or DW3 for his final year -- or MARK SEARS!!!
Worry wart post of the year.

I'll counter this with a prediction that if we win an NCAA game or two that Jeff doesn't go anywhere, despite what the ESPN and CBS talking heads would be speculating. Calm down folks!
Last Edited: 3/3/2022 11:08:47 AM by OhioCatFan
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
3/3/2022 11:55 AM
GraffZ06 wrote:expand_more
Agree with all that.

So, would we prefer to get hot and win in Cleveland this year. Go to NCAA back to back. Lose in 1st round (likely) and see Boals get hired away after year 3 - possibly taking some recruits with him or decommitting like happened with Groce.

Or would we rather fall in Cleveland. Head to CBI or call it a season but retain Boals. Get another year of BVP (maybe) along with return of DW3 and excellent recruiting class. Possibly make a sweet 16 type run where you lose Boals after year 4 but get the experience and exposure of that type tourney run and MAYBE since recruits are already here you retain some/all even after Boals leaves and MAYBE you've laid enough foundation in 4 years and 2 tourney runs to try and keep the recruiting momentum going with next coach?

To me, that's a lot of maybe's but I still like the sound of option 2 if I'm honest.
Take tournament trips and wins whenever you can get them. In the second scenario you outline, there's no guarantee we're even the best team in the MAC, let alone a Sweet 16 team. Since 1990, we basically go to the tournament once every 6 years on average. I think any attempt to try and get cute about these things with an eye towards retaining a coach longer puts the cart before the horse.

Bottom line is that if we win a tournament game this year and Boals gets poached, that's still a pretty damn good outcome for the program. To be able to go out on the market and say that of our last 4 coaches, 3 have ended up at Illinois, Boston College, and [Enter Boals P5 school] makes clear the quality of the job here and should put us in a strong place to make a good hire who can maintain any momentum.
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GroverBall
3/3/2022 1:18 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
Take tournament trips and wins whenever you can get them.
+1
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colobobcat66
3/3/2022 1:22 PM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
Jeff Boals ain’t going anywhere ☝️
Not soon anyway it looks....but wait - There is still Cleveland/MAC Tourney....???
At this time exactly 10 years ago, Ohio was coming off a disappointing loss to Kent to fall to 10-5 in the MAC with 1 game to go. Less than 30 days later, John Groce was the head coach of Illinois.
If Boals can pull off what Groce did that year, he’s probably gone too. We shall see
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Ziegler79
3/4/2022 2:34 AM
All I can say is… Ted Thompson is my all time favorite Ohio player.
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J.B.Hoy
3/4/2022 10:53 AM
Ziegler79 wrote:expand_more
All I can say is… Ted Thompson is my all time favorite Ohio player.
I played broomball with Ted in '86. He's a beast on the ice.
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