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Posted: 4/3/2022 12:38 PM
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What I wonder about is whether or not Boals ever had much interest in this job. Unless he says something, I suppose we'll never know.
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Posted: 4/3/2022 1:47 PM
Yes Ohio Cat Fan, an interesting perspective. I guess this is why being quiet is a Virtue. Unless Coach Boals comments on the siutation, we will never know what kind of interest he personally had in going to Butler. Until the next rumor/vacancy comes along, he can go about his business working the portal and shoring up our recruits.

It is interesting to me that Butler went back into the Time Machine and pulled out an old familiar face in Coach Matta. He's been out of the game for a while, a little time off can certainly be helpful, but that's not exactly the way it is usually done.
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Posted: 4/3/2022 1:58 PM
cbus fan: I'm no expert on Butler, but I've been told that they very seldom hire a coach who does not have a strong previous connection to the institution. Matta is an alumnus, as I think is his wife.
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Posted: 4/3/2022 2:07 PM
when will see the tos to butler posts?
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Posted: 4/3/2022 2:33 PM
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cbus fan: I'm no expert on Butler, but I've been told that they very seldom hire a coach who does not have a strong previous connection to the institution. Matta is an alumnus, as I think is his wife.
Been over 100 years
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Posted: 4/3/2022 2:44 PM
I'm curious what our boy Arkley meant by saying Boals almost left last March in a Twitter post.
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Posted: 4/3/2022 3:04 PM
I believe Arkley said he was a finalist at Penn State.

https://twitter.com/JasonRRArkley/status/1510396965737144325
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Posted: 4/3/2022 3:09 PM
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I believe Arkley said he was a finalist at Penn State.
If that's true, and that's a job Boals would even consider, it doesn't bode well for the idea that he's a lifer at OU. The Penn State job isn't a good one. They haven't been to a tournament in 11 years. They haven't won a tournament game in 21 years.

Suggests he's after a pay day. Can't blame him; professionally, so are the rest of us.
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Posted: 4/3/2022 3:19 PM
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I believe Arkley said he was a finalist at Penn State.
If that's true, and that's a job Boals would even consider, it doesn't bode well for the idea that he's a lifer at OU. The Penn State job isn't a good one. They haven't been to a tournament in 11 years. They haven't won a tournament game in 21 years.

Suggests he's after a pay day. Can't blame him; professionally, so are the rest of us.
Maybe he was curious and just wanted to test the waters in case OU couldn't come up with an extension
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Posted: 4/3/2022 3:46 PM
I take Arkley with a grain of salt. 99.9% of the time it feels as if he's just searching for a reaction
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Posted: 4/3/2022 3:55 PM
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I take Arkley with a grain of salt. 99.9% of the time it feels as if he's just searching for a reaction
Yup. There's zero reporting taking place.
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Posted: 4/3/2022 4:03 PM
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I take Arkley with a grain of salt. 99.9% of the time it feels as if he's just searching for a reaction
Yup. There's zero reporting taking place.
I like Arkley, but ever since he was saying there was no way Ohio gets rid of Saul, I have questioned his information some.
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Posted: 4/3/2022 4:29 PM
A-townBound wrote:expand_more
I take Arkley with a grain of salt. 99.9% of the time it feels as if he's just searching for a reaction
Yup. There's zero reporting taking place.
I like Arkley, but ever since he was saying there was no way Ohio gets rid of Saul, I have questioned his information some.
His whole handling and reporting on that situation was strange. And he was the first to question the performance of the team in a post game presser where Saul got a little testy with he and some student reporters.
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Posted: 4/3/2022 4:32 PM
Question: If Boals had gone to PSU or BU would he still have commuted from New Albany? Just asking for a friend who owns a commuter helicopter service.
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Posted: 4/3/2022 5:17 PM
A-townBound wrote:expand_more
I take Arkley with a grain of salt. 99.9% of the time it feels as if he's just searching for a reaction
Yup. There's zero reporting taking place.
I like Arkley, but ever since he was saying there was no way Ohio gets rid of Saul, I have questioned his information some.
I am a big Arkley fan, always have been. Always will be. He provides a very niche portion of the population with an extremely valuable service. However, the Ford v. Ford poll cost him a lot of credibility with me. Putting that ridiculous poll up before Boals had even departed was immature clickbait. He's better than that, so I'll chalk it up to a temporary lapse in judgement.
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Posted: 4/3/2022 5:33 PM
A couple of Arkley's tweets came across as taunts of Ohio fans.
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Posted: 4/3/2022 6:38 PM
I still think the silence by Coach Boals in all of this is very strategic. Silence certainly is a virtue, especially in our fast paced modern world. However, by not saying a thing, he could appear to be both interested in the Butler job, as well as being a loyal Bobcat. It also helps should a big time job open up at the eleventh hour (as they usually do.) My guess is we won't officially know if he is coaching the Bobcats until practice can officially start in the fall. I just hope none of this scares off any recruits. If he plays it right, his cause celebre could acutally perk some recruits interest, who might not ordinarily consider the Bobcats.
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Posted: 4/3/2022 10:05 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Question: If Boals had gone to PSU or BU would he still have commuted from New Albany? Just asking for a friend who owns a commuter helicopter service.
If you owned a helicopter service you wouldn’t whine about a lack of a shuttle service. And where anyone chooses to live is no concern of yours.
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Posted: 4/3/2022 11:34 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Question: If Boals had gone to PSU or BU would he still have commuted from New Albany? Just asking for a friend who owns a commuter helicopter service.
If you owned a helicopter service you wouldn’t whine about a lack of a shuttle service. And where anyone chooses to live is no concern of yours.
Oh - Let's see where Matta chooses to "live" and if that ends having any impact. What a "D..." response. Though typical.....
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Posted: 4/3/2022 11:55 PM
RSBobcat wrote:expand_more
Question: If Boals had gone to PSU or BU would he still have commuted from New Albany? Just asking for a friend who owns a commuter helicopter service.
If you owned a helicopter service you wouldn’t whine about a lack of a shuttle service. And where anyone chooses to live is no concern of yours.
Oh - Let's see where Matta chooses to "live" and if that ends having any impact. What a "D..." response. Though typical.....
Yes, seems to have totally missed the humorous point being made.
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Posted: 4/4/2022 7:06 AM
cbus cat fan wrote:expand_more
I still think the silence by Coach Boals in all of this is very strategic. Silence certainly is a virtue, especially in our fast paced modern world. However, by not saying a thing, he could appear to be both interested in the Butler job, as well as being a loyal Bobcat. It also helps should a big time job open up at the eleventh hour (as they usually do.) My guess is we won't officially know if he is coaching the Bobcats until practice can officially start in the fall. I just hope none of this scares off any recruits. If he plays it right, his cause celebre could acutally perk some recruits interest, who might not ordinarily consider the Bobcats.
Man, I want to live in your world.

The unfortunate truth is that our coach, an Ohio "legend" who talks about always having both feet in and the honor of representing our school, is, like most of his peers, an opportunist. It's not enough to be the highest paid university employee. You've got to go for the next multi-million-dollar contract that crosses your field of vision...and expect your next employer to get you out of the contract you signed with your last school. Then you can be "all in" with that program.

This, combined with NFI and the portal, have put me off "big time" college basketball. Thinking about relocating to NC, SC or Georgia in the next several months anyway, so looking for a DIII school where I can watch young men - and women - play for the love of the game rather than the love of "me."
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Posted: 4/4/2022 8:33 AM
SBH wrote:expand_more
I still think the silence by Coach Boals in all of this is very strategic. Silence certainly is a virtue, especially in our fast paced modern world. However, by not saying a thing, he could appear to be both interested in the Butler job, as well as being a loyal Bobcat. It also helps should a big time job open up at the eleventh hour (as they usually do.) My guess is we won't officially know if he is coaching the Bobcats until practice can officially start in the fall. I just hope none of this scares off any recruits. If he plays it right, his cause celebre could acutally perk some recruits interest, who might not ordinarily consider the Bobcats.
Man, I want to live in your world.

The unfortunate truth is that our coach, an Ohio "legend" who talks about always having both feet in and the honor of representing our school, is, like most of his peers, an opportunist. It's not enough to be the highest paid university employee. You've got to go for the next multi-million-dollar contract that crosses your field of vision...and expect your next employer to get you out of the contract you signed with your last school. Then you can be "all in" with that program.

This, combined with NFI and the portal, have put me off "big time" college basketball. Thinking about relocating to NC, SC or Georgia in the next several months anyway, so looking for a DIII school where I can watch young men - and women - play for the love of the game rather than the love of "me."
Why is Jeff Boals wanting to be successful -- to challenge himself in his chosen profession and passion at the highest levels -- inherently selfish? Who gets to decide what's motivating Boals, and to conclude it's solely about money? What is it about your view of what Boals should do that makes it the right one, and makes any deviation from that selfish and motivated exclusively by greed?

From my vantage point, you've defined very narrow parameters that college coaches and athletes have to follow for the purposes of your own enjoyment. And then you assume a moral failing of anybody who -- in your view -- deviates from that.

In other words, you like watching people play basketball as a hobby, and have decided to impose upon them strict rules about WHY they're playing basketball, and if they don't meet your standard for them, they're selfish.

I'm not sure they're the selfish ones in this instance, my man. You're trying to impose all sorts of weird, moral guidelines on a bunch of people you've never met solely for your own self-interest, and self-interest that basically boils down to ensuring a hobby of yours remains interesting for you.
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Posted: 4/4/2022 8:48 AM
Bobcat Love wrote:expand_more
I take Arkley with a grain of salt. 99.9% of the time it feels as if he's just searching for a reaction
Yup. There's zero reporting taking place.
I like Arkley, but ever since he was saying there was no way Ohio gets rid of Saul, I have questioned his information some.
I am a big Arkley fan, always have been. Always will be. He provides a very niche portion of the population with an extremely valuable service. However, the Ford v. Ford poll cost him a lot of credibility with me. Putting that ridiculous poll up before Boals had even departed was immature clickbait. He's better than that, so I'll chalk it up to a temporary lapse in judgement.
Wonder if that judgement lapse could cost him any access or cooperation from Boals down the road?
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Posted: 4/4/2022 8:51 AM
RSBobcat wrote:expand_more
Question: If Boals had gone to PSU or BU would he still have commuted from New Albany? Just asking for a friend who owns a commuter helicopter service.
If you owned a helicopter service you wouldn’t whine about a lack of a shuttle service. And where anyone chooses to live is no concern of yours.
Oh - Let's see where Matta chooses to "live" and if that ends having any impact. What a "D..." response. Though typical.....
For what it’s worth Matta lives across the street from the Butler AD in Indianapolis.
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Posted: 4/4/2022 10:43 AM
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Why is Jeff Boals wanting to be successful -- to challenge himself in his chosen profession and passion at the highest levels -- inherently selfish? Who gets to decide what's motivating Boals, and to conclude it's solely about money? What is it about your view of what Boals should do that makes it the right one, and makes any deviation from that selfish and motivated exclusively by greed?

From my vantage point, you've defined very narrow parameters that college coaches and athletes have to follow for the purposes of your own enjoyment. And then you assume a moral failing of anybody who -- in your view -- deviates from that.

In other words, you like watching people play basketball as a hobby, and have decided to impose upon them strict rules about WHY they're playing basketball, and if they don't meet your standard for them, they're selfish.

I'm not sure they're the selfish ones in this instance, my man. You're trying to impose all sorts of weird, moral guidelines on a bunch of people you've never met solely for your own self-interest, and self-interest that basically boils down to ensuring a hobby of yours remains interesting for you.
I'm not denying that's the way the world is (at least for some people). Doesn't mean I have to like and/or support it.

At a minimum, I would have expected Boals to address the rampant rumors by releasing a statement saying that he loves his job and it's an honor to represent Ohio University. Nada.

As for my "strict rules," they're simply that the coach abide by the terms of the long-term contract he asked for and was granted.
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