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Posted: 3/19/2022 5:10 PM
Cleveland.com and Terry Pluto are reporting that Dennis Gates will be the new head coach at Missouri. Pluto speculates his salary might be $3 million per year.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 5:49 PM
Devastating loss for a program that went from the cellar of all of Division 1 to a perennial Horizon league contender under Gates’s watch. Such is life for a mid major.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 7:45 PM
Good get for Mizzou. Will be interesting to see the war for recruits between Underwood and Gates.
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Posted: 3/20/2022 8:17 AM
Jim Christian to CSU?
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Posted: 3/20/2022 8:30 AM
Wouldn't be the first time CSU hired a former KSU head coach.
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Posted: 3/20/2022 10:06 AM
Disappointed for CSU but not surprising. He took an ailing program and made it a regular contender. Curious to see if they can sustain it. I think their oversized arena is no longer threatened with destruction because the Cavs’ D-League team is going to use it. Their rent will pay for upkeep that CSU could not justify otherwise. So they have assets, but Cleveland stubbornly has refused to embrace CSU with the exception of the flash in the pan Sweet Sixteen season in 1986. This is a pro sports/Bucknut city through and through.
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Posted: 3/25/2022 2:57 PM
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.....but Cleveland stubbornly has refused to embrace CSU with the exception of the flash in the pan Sweet Sixteen season in 1986. This is a pro sports/Bucknut city through and through.
Which is a damn sad thing, isn't it?

Cincinnati and Indy manage to embrace both the local pro teams, and the local college sports teams fairly equally well. What is it about Cleveland that's unwilling to embrace CSU even a little bit?
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Posted: 3/26/2022 11:59 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
.....but Cleveland stubbornly has refused to embrace CSU with the exception of the flash in the pan Sweet Sixteen season in 1986. This is a pro sports/Bucknut city through and through.
Which is a damn sad thing, isn't it?

Cincinnati and Indy manage to embrace both the local pro teams, and the local college sports teams fairly equally well. What is it about Cleveland that's unwilling to embrace CSU even a little bit?
Cleveland is just a pro sports town. Nothing wrong with that really. Like Boston and Pittsburgh. Need top 5 teams or Doug Flutie for the masses to pay attention. And, OSU dominates up there as well.
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Posted: 3/27/2022 12:51 AM
I'm not sad CSU doesn't have the local fanbase. Lots of room for Bobcats.
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Posted: 3/27/2022 7:31 AM
Agree. We should play in a preseason tourney at the Q.
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Posted: 3/27/2022 12:14 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
.....but Cleveland stubbornly has refused to embrace CSU with the exception of the flash in the pan Sweet Sixteen season in 1986. This is a pro sports/Bucknut city through and through.
Which is a damn sad thing, isn't it?

Cincinnati and Indy manage to embrace both the local pro teams, and the local college sports teams fairly equally well. What is it about Cleveland that's unwilling to embrace CSU even a little bit?
They don't have a football team.
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Posted: 3/27/2022 1:32 PM
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Cleveland is just a pro sports town. Nothing wrong with that really. Like Boston and Pittsburgh. Need top 5 teams or Doug Flutie for the masses to pay attention. And, OSU dominates up there as well.
I think the love of O$U comes in large part thanks to the ineptitude of the pro teams. The thirst for a winner is strong, and gathering around ever Saturday to watch the Buckeyes annihilate Minnesota or Indiana or whatever is cathartic for a lot of people here. I think "at least Ohio State won" is the official Monday morning consolation of Cleveland sports.

As for Cleveland State, it suffers the same problem all mid-majors do: They're not seen as "big time" by students, alumni or locals. Playing in a conference with IUPUI, Oakland (not California), etc. is the same problem as playing in a conference with a bunch of directional schools.

Last and certainly not least, CSU is a young university that until quite recently was mostly a commuter school with a lot of non-traditional students. They're working to change that and making great progress (often at the expense of Akron) but there's a long way to go.
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Posted: 4/5/2022 10:57 PM
It's Iowa St asst. Daniyal Robinson.
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Posted: 4/6/2022 8:53 AM
Surprised it didn't go to an assistant, particularly Dru Joyce III.
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