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Posted: 11/22/2010 1:41 PM
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For those who aren't in town to pick up an A-News, there's an interesting story in today's edition about some of OUr guys and their autobiographical tattoos. Link:

http://www.athensnews.com/ohio/article-32647-ou-athletes-record-their-bios-on-their-bodies.html

It's a shame the online edition doesn't have all the photos... besides the photo of Asown (which is on the cover), the print edition also has pictures of Tommy, DJ and Jon Smith showing off their tats.
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Posted: 11/22/2010 2:01 PM
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Getting players to talk about the meaning behind both their jersey numbers and/or tattoos is a rich source of biographical info the player otherwise might not be willing to share. I've used it several times and it rarely fails to work. And I've found it takes the starch out of the snap judgments some fans -- and regrettably I at times -- make about players with tattoos. When a player has a tale of what that marking means, it really makes my shallow aesthetic judgement seem petty.


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Posted: 11/23/2010 11:15 AM
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I'm old school and don't appreciate the tattoos on anybody. I think it's more like grafiti, which I think is not good either. Back in the day, someone would have something small that would not be visible to others. I think it's one of those things that sounds like a good idea when you're young, but as you get older you realize it was not. Regarding being judgemental, don't we judge people every day based on their appearance? If you see someone with multiple, visible tattoos for the first time, what is your first impression? What if you went to the ER and your doctor had tats all over his/her body and multiple piercings? Would you feel confident? I'm not saying it's right, but that's the way it is.
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Posted: 11/23/2010 2:22 PM
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lots of top level ceo and other corporate types have tats. All of our guys could easily cover them up with a long sleeve shirt as most doctors are covered up..I actually have seen a doctor with visible tats and he was hispanic..my first thought was not ohhh no..it was he must be an amazing doctor to have overcome any and all sterotypes.
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Posted: 11/23/2010 3:05 PM
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I'm old school and don't appreciate the tattoos on anybody. I think it's more like grafiti, which I think is not good either. Back in the day, someone would have something small that would not be visible to others. I think it's one of those things that sounds like a good idea when you're young, but as you get older you realize it was not. Regarding being judgemental, don't we judge people every day based on their appearance? If you see someone with multiple, visible tattoos for the first time, what is your first impression? What if you went to the ER and your doctor had tats all over his/her body and multiple piercings? Would you feel confident? I'm not saying it's right, but that's the way it is.
I can't really think of a way to respond to this other than to say its sad to me that these types of stereotypes persist among some of those in our society.
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Posted: 11/23/2010 3:47 PM
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I'm old school and don't appreciate the tattoos on anybody. I think it's more like grafiti, which I think is not good either. Back in the day, someone would have something small that would not be visible to others. I think it's one of those things that sounds like a good idea when you're young, but as you get older you realize it was not. Regarding being judgemental, don't we judge people every day based on their appearance? If you see someone with multiple, visible tattoos for the first time, what is your first impression? What if you went to the ER and your doctor had tats all over his/her body and multiple piercings? Would you feel confident? I'm not saying it's right, but that's the way it is.


My first impression of someone with tattoos is no different from an impression of someone without.  What is the context of the meeting? The reason?  How does the person hold themself?  Has nothing to do with body ink.  You's be surprised how many ER docs have tattoos, I see them everyday, no big deal.  Not having confidence in someone based on them having tattoos screams narrow mindedness.
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Posted: 11/23/2010 5:26 PM
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I did say "first impression". If tats and piercings make no difference, do you think that dress is irrelevent, as well?
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Posted: 11/23/2010 6:01 PM
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I'm old school too, so I understand you're saying, giacomo. After working at the university for nearly 20 years though, it seems like I see more young people with tats than without anymore, so my impressions have changed quite a bit.

The main thing I took away from the article (and the reason I found it interesting and wanted to post it), is that when you understand what the designs represent to these guys, it really contradicts the sort of stereotype we're talking about. They are choosing to emphasize their families, their hometowns, their spiritual sides... I like what that tells me about them as people.

Plus, the picture of DJ that was on the last game program is the most badass basketball poster I've ever seen.
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Posted: 11/23/2010 6:14 PM
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I'm old school and don't appreciate the tattoos on anybody. I think it's more like grafiti, which I think is not good either. Back in the day, someone would have something small that would not be visible to others. I think it's one of those things that sounds like a good idea when you're young, but as you get older you realize it was not. Regarding being judgemental, don't we judge people every day based on their appearance? If you see someone with multiple, visible tattoos for the first time, what is your first impression? What if you went to the ER and your doctor had tats all over his/her body and multiple piercings? Would you feel confident? I'm not saying it's right, but that's the way it is.


what's that like....living in Mayberry?
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Posted: 11/23/2010 8:56 PM
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Tattoos are a cliche.  Also, muchly a sign of me-too and/or immaturity.  What you're into at, say 25, may not years later turn out to be something that you wanted permanentlly written on your body--espec those gems that creep on on the neck and face and visible parts.

Plus, why hasn't someone developed tattoo ink that is vivid instead of it all being a washed out dirty green?  With an industry this big, no tech developments?  No drug or other body conscious companies interested?

Hey, all the guys who sported earrings when younger are still earing 'em now, right?!


Just me doing another post that is spot on.
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Posted: 11/23/2010 10:16 PM
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Might as well rename this thread "Generation Gap."
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Posted: 11/23/2010 10:21 PM
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Tattoo removal stocks took a nosedive when discretionary spending went into the tank about two and a half years ago. From $50 to $8 in a matter of months.

They are bargains now. It's just a matter of knowing which company comes up with the least invasive and most effective procedure. Still trying to figure that out.

Business will be good in about 10 years.

I'm only 26 and already have a few friends who are realizing that having tattoos past the shirtline on the forearms can be a major problem. One has to make sure he wears sleeves every day of his life.

I'm all for expression, but I also  want to profit off it when everybody loses tone and gains 30 percent of their weight.
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Posted: 11/24/2010 8:34 AM
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I'm all for expression, but I also  want to profit off it when everybody loses tone and gains 30 percent of their weight.


Let me know if you need a business partner because I think your analysis is spot on.
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Posted: 11/24/2010 10:43 AM
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Might as well rename this thread "Generation Gap."


I'm 23 and I think I'd have to agree with the old guys on this one. There are exceptions, but most tattoos just look bad and later in life people judge you as unprofessional. The fact that people judge someone's character based on their mannerisms, dress, and even body ink is true. Right or wrong it's the way things are.
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Posted: 11/24/2010 12:08 PM
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Of cOUrse, after we dice kents and head to the MAC Title game I encOUrage each and every one of yOU to get a commerative tatt.  Something like 'miami sucks' or 'temples sucks' would be nice.
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Posted: 11/24/2010 4:12 PM
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Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Of cOUrse, after we dice kents and head to the MAC Title game I encOUrage each and every one of yOU to get a commerative tatt.  Something like 'miami sucks' or 'temples sucks' would be nice.


I was leaning more towards 'Monroe Sucks!'  
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Posted: 11/24/2010 5:20 PM
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I'm old school and don't appreciate the tattoos on anybody. I think it's more like grafiti, which I think is not good either. Back in the day, someone would have something small that would not be visible to others. I think it's one of those things that sounds like a good idea when you're young, but as you get older you realize it was not. Regarding being judgemental, don't we judge people every day based on their appearance? If you see someone with multiple, visible tattoos for the first time, what is your first impression? What if you went to the ER and your doctor had tats all over his/her body and multiple piercings? Would you feel confident? I'm not saying it's right, but that's the way it is.


My first impression of someone with tattoos is no different from an impression of someone without.  What is the context of the meeting? The reason?  How does the person hold themself?  Has nothing to do with body ink.  You's be surprised how many ER docs have tattoos, I see them everyday, no big deal.  Not having confidence in someone based on them having tattoos screams narrow mindedness.


How about the tattoo on Charles Manson's forehead?  Without knowing him or hearing him speak I seriously doubt you would have confidence in him as your ER Doc.  A lot depends on the tastefulness and content of the tattoo.  
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Posted: 11/24/2010 5:41 PM
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Hoolie--Go with that!  In fact, I'll pay you $5 to do that.
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Posted: 11/24/2010 6:24 PM
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I'm old school and don't appreciate the tattoos on anybody. I think it's more like grafiti, which I think is not good either. Back in the day, someone would have something small that would not be visible to others. I think it's one of those things that sounds like a good idea when you're young, but as you get older you realize it was not. Regarding being judgemental, don't we judge people every day based on their appearance? If you see someone with multiple, visible tattoos for the first time, what is your first impression? What if you went to the ER and your doctor had tats all over his/her body and multiple piercings? Would you feel confident? I'm not saying it's right, but that's the way it is.


My first impression of someone with tattoos is no different from an impression of someone without.  What is the context of the meeting? The reason?  How does the person hold themself?  Has nothing to do with body ink.  You's be surprised how many ER docs have tattoos, I see them everyday, no big deal.  Not having confidence in someone based on them having tattoos screams narrow mindedness.


How about the tattoo on Charles Manson's forehead?  Without knowing him or hearing him speak I seriously doubt you would have confidence in him as your ER Doc.  A lot depends on the tastefulness and content of the tattoo.  


Wow!  DC and I agree on a topic.  I'd add location to his tastefulness and content.  In our business, because we deal with schools, like it or not, a sales rep with lots of visible tattoos would find himself/herself at a competitive disadvantage.  I thought about getting an earring years ago until my wife pointed out, "who do you sell to."  Case closed and no earring.
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Posted: 11/24/2010 6:33 PM
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Mayberry?  Old school?   Just the thought of those tatoo needles and flesh, give me the heebie-jeebies!  Generation gap?  Maybe.  The gap for me is that my Marine Corps "Uncle Moon" who fought at Guadacanal, and other Pacific locales, had some awesome tattoos.   I thank God the tattoo fashion skipped my generation.   I am just not a lover of needles or pain, and I would have likely spent five times the cost of the tattoos in attempting to erase them with repeated laser treatments, after I realized that Paula, Pat, and Julie were no longer the eternal loves of my life.   
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Posted: 11/24/2010 8:27 PM
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I'm old school and don't appreciate the tattoos on anybody. I think it's more like grafiti, which I think is not good either. Back in the day, someone would have something small that would not be visible to others. I think it's one of those things that sounds like a good idea when you're young, but as you get older you realize it was not. Regarding being judgemental, don't we judge people every day based on their appearance? If you see someone with multiple, visible tattoos for the first time, what is your first impression? What if you went to the ER and your doctor had tats all over his/her body and multiple piercings? Would you feel confident? I'm not saying it's right, but that's the way it is.


My first impression of someone with tattoos is no different from an impression of someone without.  What is the context of the meeting? The reason?  How does the person hold themself?  Has nothing to do with body ink.  You's be surprised how many ER docs have tattoos, I see them everyday, no big deal.  Not having confidence in someone based on them having tattoos screams narrow mindedness.


How about the tattoo on Charles Manson's forehead?  Without knowing him or hearing him speak I seriously doubt you would have confidence in him as your ER Doc.  A lot depends on the tastefulness and content of the tattoo.  



Depends on where Manson went to med school and the reason for my ER visit.

Monroe, 
You'll have to go higher than $5.
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Posted: 11/24/2010 11:18 PM
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$6.
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Posted: 11/25/2010 1:18 PM
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Monroe, You're getting dangerously close to talking me into this. 
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