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SBH
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Posted: 1/30/2011 1:37 PM
Photos seem to implicate one of our players as having left the bench to join the fight in Muncie.  Wonder if league officials will respond with a suspension...
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Posted: 1/30/2011 1:58 PM
One of our players certainly did, but I don't think he got very far because a coach and then a teammate held him back. Hopefully this saved him from any kind of suspension.
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Posted: 1/30/2011 10:11 PM
The league will look into the matter, but:
     They don't have enough video evidence on the fight, or video of both benches.
     For any severe action by the league the game officials had to call a severe flagrant foul or disqualification fouls.
     From all reports(newspaper, fan viewpoints  both benches did leave the box area
     Three Official reports (Unknown)
     Report from the official that was grading those three officials (Unknown)

I discussed this with two BSU specatators via telephone and both said that they realy did not see the initial problem as it was away from the ball in the corner.  Both benches did leave the box area.

In my opinion a warning will be issued to both teams
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Posted: 1/31/2011 1:09 AM
I know. Lets ask JCW. He know everything!!!!!  A regular freakin Mr. Whopee!

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Posted: 1/31/2011 1:30 AM
here's a video that shows a certain point guard standing in the middle of it all at 0:44 and then a certain head coach runs in and heaves him back towards the bench. if I knew how to edit video I'd overdub the Benny Hill theme song to get the full effect.

props to Ivo and Kellogg for getting Devo outta there stat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5vKvVm6Uzo&feature=player_embedded
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Posted: 1/31/2011 11:55 AM
How'd he make it out there so fast?  Looks like it was Dustin Ford who directed him back to the bench, no?
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Posted: 1/31/2011 12:01 PM
I was there and I didn't even realize he wasn't in the game at the time. I'm guess he might have been at halfcourt waiting to check in. Another player who wasn't in the game at the time also tried to get there, but he was better restrained I think. Tunji helped there. I'm glad we did have players who kept it from escalating more.
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Posted: 1/31/2011 12:14 PM
FYI: Here are the NCAA rules on fights. 

Section 7. Suspensions for Fighting
Art. 1. Any member or team personnel who participates in a fight 
(regardless of whether he or she is a player at the time) shall be assessed 
a flagrant technical foul. No free throws shall be attempted by either 
team when there are double flagrant fouls that are offsetting
Art. 2. The first time an individual participates in a fight during the 
season (including exhibition games), the individual shall be suspended 
from participating in the team’s next regular-season game (not an 
exhibition contest), including tournament competition.
Art. 3. When an individual participates in a second fight, that 
individual shall be suspended for the remainder of the season, including 
tournament competition.
Art. 4. When an individual participates in a fight during his or her 
team’s final game of the season, that individual shall be suspended from 
participating in the team’s next regular-season game (not an exhibition 
contest) for which that member or team personnel would be eligible.
Art. 5. When an individual with eligibility for the next season 
participates in a fight during his or her final game of the season and that 
fight is the individual’s second fight of the season, that individual shall 
be suspended for the first three regular-season games (not exhibitions) 
of the next season.
Art. 6. Any team member or other bench personnel under suspension 
for fighting shall not be in the team’s bench area.
Art. 7. The referee may declare a forfeit when any individual fails to 
comply with any part of the penalties of this rule.
Art. 8. After a game, conference offices or the assigning authority may 
correct an error about who was involved in a fight but cannot change 
an official’s ruling that a fight took place or lessen the severity of the 
penalty. The conference office or assigning authority may make those 
penalties more severe


The following apply to situations in which a fight has been reported by 
an official during his/her jurisdiction. When a fight  is not reported by an 
official, the conference or assigning authority may invoke its own penalty.  
For the rules on suspensions for fighting see Rule 10-7.
1. The official shall inform the offender(s), the head coach and the official 
scorer that an ejection for fighting was issued (the official scorer shall 
note this in the scorebook).
2. After the game, the referee shall contact the coordinator of officials/ 
assignor for the game and report all ejection(s) for fighting.
3. The coordinator of officials/assignor shall report the ejection(s) for 
fighting to the conference commissioner or, if the offender is from an 
independent institution, to that team’s athletics director.
4. The conference commissioner shall call and follow up in writing to the 
following people:
a. The athletics director of the team whose individual(s) was involved; 
and
b. When the opponent’s individual(s) was ejected for fighting, that team’s 
conference commissioner or, when that school is an independent 
institution, to that team’s athletics director.
5. Fight-reporting procedures should be handled quickly since the longterm participation of the offender(s) shall be affected by a second fight.
6. Related considerations:
a. The head coach should withhold the offender(s) from the next 
scheduled game even if the conference or athletics director has not 
contacted him or her.
b. Institutional and conference policy dictates whether a suspended 
individual shall be permitted to attend a game from which he or she 
is suspended. If the individual(s) attends the game, he or she shall not 
be in the team’s bench area.
c. After a game, conference offices or the assigning authority may 
correct an error about who was involved in a fight but can neither 
change an official’s ruling that a fight took place nor lessen the 
severity of the penalty but may make the penalty more severe.

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/BR11.pdf




 
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Posted: 1/31/2011 1:42 PM
The thing is it doesn't really define "fight." Is some shoving considered a fight? Or a does a player have to throw a punch or attempt to throw a punch?
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Posted: 1/31/2011 1:51 PM
UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
The thing is it doesn't really define "fight." Is some shoving considered a fight? Or a does a player have to throw a punch or attempt to throw a punch?


I actually don't think the officials declared it a fight. But it looks like the MAC can retroactively call it one and asses penalties.
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