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Posted: 1/28/2011 2:39 AM

Yahoo's home page had article re colleges with the highest affinity as measured by donor rate percentage (of graduates, I presume).

We should lead the nation in that category.  But no.

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Posted: 1/28/2011 3:42 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more

We should lead the nation in that category.  But no.



Funniest post you've ever had. Congrats.
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Posted: 1/29/2011 12:05 AM
Explain why that's funny.  I know a lot of people from a lot of schools and none have the affinity love of school that one always hears about The Ohio University.  Sadly, that hasn't translated into a particularly high % of alumni who give back financial support.

Theoretically, success in basketball and football should bring rain.

USC (So Cal) alumni are fanatical about their football.  And that is one ugly, unappealing campus.  That urban experience in central L.A. is charmless.  But they get.  Because of football.
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Posted: 1/29/2011 10:55 AM
I would guess that none of the schools you saw listed were schools where a high percentage of graduates have education degrees--I read somewhere that teachers are absolutely worthless at donating to their alma mater.  

The other thing is public school grads are less likely to give thinking that their tax dollars are already at work.
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Posted: 1/29/2011 5:46 PM
Yeah let's compare Ohio to USC. Makes perfect sense. BIGMANZZZZ
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Posted: 1/30/2011 11:21 PM
I compliment you on your inablity to engage in reasoned discourse.  Let us not leave your inability to pursue a comparison unpraised also.
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Posted: 1/30/2011 11:28 PM
If you honestly believe that Ohio would be or should be anywhere near the top of that list, you simply can't be helped. Let's just start by quickly looking at the similarities those top 10 schools have. Ridiculous thread.
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Posted: 1/31/2011 12:05 AM
Good point.  The thought that our % of donor contributions lags what one would expect given affinity for The University is an inane thought.  Intelligent discourse on the reasons why and thought on the impact (or not) of Atheletics on donations (or fice versa) is a total waste.

Can't wait for the next thread about how we'll be changing conferences or adding seats to Peden or the huge contract signed by some non-MAC school.


Look, if you don't like the topic then ignore it.  But are ya really adding anything at all by trashing because that's your blanket opinion of my posts?
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Posted: 1/31/2011 1:04 AM
It's funny you would bring up blanket opinions. You who has responded BIGMANZ, or however cute way you say it, resembles a pre-teen boy crying for the one thing he wants for Christmas. This was a complete waste of a thread (seriously, Ohio would have a better chance at winning the National Championship in Football and Basketball) and was posted on the basketball board in the heart of the season. Now please, come back with the "you haters just don't understand my cleverness" attitude you seem to have whenever someone harps on the pointlessness of your drivel.
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Posted: 1/31/2011 10:15 AM
Look, anyone who's posted here over 20 times repeats themself.  At least I do it succinctly and to the point.  We need big men.  I don't get your thought that we could never get any.  (The name 'Jacobs' ring a bell?)

Oops.  I forgot.  If you don't get what I post, don't agree with my content or style, then I'm a moron.
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Posted: 1/31/2011 10:18 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
I compliment you on your inablity to engage in reasoned discourse.  Let us not leave your inability to pursue a comparison unpraised also.


It's one thing to hope to get more donation money into the university but to lead the nation in it is just absurd for the time being. What have we done that would want to make your average casual fan (who, shockingly, doesn't come to this board very often if at all) give a ton of money to Ohio? Is it the one tournament appearance every five years in hoops? The getting our tails handed to us in November and December games in football? Probably not. Until Ohio starts dominating conference play and/or the MAC gets better as a whole I just don't see it as a reasonable assertion that Ohio should be one of the top donor schools in the nation. What do you see that would point otherwise?
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Posted: 1/31/2011 10:23 AM
No expectation that there will be a seismic shift toward us leading the nation.  But can't we do better..a lot better over time.

It's an interesting though that most of the schools stated were, if memory serves, private.  So, probably tough for a state school (less deep pockets, probaby, to start) to pull donors in the amount of dollars and, probably, &% of giving that the privates do.

But you don't sense that the affinity for O.U. is stronger than that of alumni of Cleveland State or Pitt or Bowling Green, etc.  Is it really unreasonable to think that could be mined to the financial betterment of The University.  If you were hiring someone whose job included fundraising would you not excite them with our alumni affinity and not expect them to produce a higher % of alumni giving than Buffalo and Kent State or most other schools?
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Posted: 1/31/2011 10:33 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more

We should lead the nation in that category.  But no.



I'd say that's calling for a seismic shift, wouldn't you?
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Posted: 1/31/2011 10:36 AM
Monroe,

I guess my question is what drives fundraising? When one talks about affinity for Ohio, does that mean alumni wanting to get back to Athens moreso than alumni of other schools? Given Athens' location, does it moreso foster that feeling as alumni can't get back as much as say an Akron grad living in Cleveland? Or is the affinity driven by the fact there are less commuters attending Ohio as compared to other MAC schools in more urban locations?

At any rate, I'm not sure the affinity results in dollars necessarily. I think a big part of it is the majors you turn out. I would think a school like Miami that turns out a lot of business and pre-law folks would get more donations than maybe a school like Ohio which would have more Journalism, Social Work and Education majors. So it's more a base of majors than affinity perhaps. And, at the high end, athletics also plays a factor as well. I'm just not sure Ohio scores well in any of those areas.
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Posted: 1/31/2011 10:38 AM
Look, I'm glad you like Ohio University as much as you do. Obviously I do too, because I wouldn't take the time to check this site and watch as many games as I could. Just look around you though. How many Ohio alums west of the Mississippi even keep up with the school? Yes, we have followers everywhere, but our alum dedication falls off considerably outside of Ohio. Our school is not nationally recognized enough for anything (Journalism = lowest paying profession and Sports Management = a lot of non-undergrads giving back to those schools instead), we are in a depressed area of the country (meaning a lot of the more recent graduates are holding onto their money to get on of their own feet)...not to mention there is (or at least was) a huge Ohio facebook group titled something along the lines of (OU will never get a dime from me after college because of the parking tickets I pay now).
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Posted: 1/31/2011 10:47 AM
Actually, Monroe has a great point here folks.

Monroe says the article tracked % of alums who donate.  He did not mention anything about how much they donate.

This is one factor in university rankings.  US News and World Report definitely includes it.

So, if more alums gave as little as $1 per year, there would be a positive impact.
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Posted: 2/1/2011 2:21 AM
Good points by Donuts and Ted.  And 69 tells us why this is an important topic.  Hoops--I think we should be doing much better than we are but have no expectations of a seismic level change.  I see incremental growth at a better-than-most pace as a real possibility, though.
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