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Ted Thompson
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Posted: 2/17/2011 12:41 PM
Use this thread to talk about anything game-related.

Date: February 19th, 2011  7:00 PM

Opponent:  Winthrop   (12-14, 8-8 Big South)

Site: Winthrop Coliseum

TV: None

Webcast: BigSouthSports.com  (looks like $4.95 per game and archive might be free)

Winthrop media guide, roster and statistics.

Sears BracketBusters Guide

Fan site: WinthropFans.com
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Posted: 2/18/2011 2:22 PM

Probably not any of us know a lot about Winthrop, but most know that Winthrop traditionally is a good mid-major team, as are we. This could be a nice game to have at home next year the year after, whenever it is returned. They have a young team, too, just two seniors, and neither has been a huge factor this year.

Most ratings have Ohio a few spots higher than Winthrop, but of course, home-court could give Winthrop a slight edge. The Eagles have lost only twice at home.

Statistically, Winthrop is a pretty good defensive team and very poor offensive team, so strength will go up against strength and weakness against weakness. The Eagles are very, very poor shooting team. We have a tendency to give up 3-pointers to teams that don't usually shoot them well, but Winthrop might be the worst we've faced. They've made the 13th-fewest in the country and are shooting 30.5 percent on them (and worse in conference play). They shoot 41.2 percent overall and 64.0 percent at the foul line. They don't draw a lot of fouls or grab a lot of offensive rebounds, but they do take care of the ball, at least.

The Eagles don't really have a go-to scorer, but have four guys averaging double-digits: guard (6-4) Robbie Dreher, guard (6-1) Reggie Middleton, forward (6-7) Charles Corbin and guard (6-2) Andre Jones all average about 10.5-13.5. Forward George Valentine (6-8) rounds out the starting lineup.

Corbin (8.5 rpg) and Valentine (7.0 rpg) have been pretty good rebounders. Middleton leads the team in assists with just 80 against 60 turnovers. None of them shoot better than 35 percent on 3-pointers.The forwards are pretty poor free throw shooters, while the guards are just average.

Matt Morgan, a 6-9 center, is key off the bench, but he seems to be more of a finesse big guy rather than a real post player. Gideon Gamble (6-7 G), Justin Burton (5-10 PG) and Joab Jerome (6-5 F) seem to round out the rotation. Gamble is the best shooter off the bench.

Defensively, the Eagles are good at forcing turnovers and pretty good at forcing opponents to shoot lower percentages. In particular, teams have shot poorly inside the arc against them. They have tended to foul quite a bit, though.

Winthrop's regular season ends next week with two winnable home games, so I'm sure they are hoping to get on a hot streak entering the Big South tournament. The Big South ranks pretty poorly as a conference this year, several behind the MAC even as bad as it's been this year. The league has one really good team, Coastal Carolina, at 25-3 with a 15-1 league mark. Liberty has a grip on second place, while Winthrop is in contention for as high as third place.

If we can win at Buffalo, then we can defintiely win this one. But of course, consistency has been a problem, although the Bobcats have been a lot more consistent lately. I hope it carries on. To me, this is a very winnable game, but it's by no means a gimme. We can't rely on shooting 50 percent against a good defensive team like this.

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Posted: 2/18/2011 3:24 PM
Thanks for the preview. Although I never thought I would live to see the day when we think Winthrop would be a nice home game. Oh how the MAC has fallen. How many years until we are slotted as a 16 seed?
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Posted: 2/18/2011 3:45 PM
Winthrop would have made a good home game for about the last decade.  Very successful program.
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Posted: 2/18/2011 3:56 PM
I always pine for a young Shirley Jones whenever I hear somebody say "Winthrop".
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Posted: 2/18/2011 4:30 PM
Pete Chouteau wrote:expand_more
I always pine for a young Shirley Jones whenever I hear somebody say "Winthrop".


Not me......"looking good, Louis..................feeling good, Billy Ray" and the great post-rain scene come to mind.
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Posted: 2/18/2011 4:44 PM
They have been successful but I just cant see alot of people getting excited about a home game with Winthrop.
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Posted: 2/18/2011 6:10 PM
that's because most fans only know names, not programs.
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Posted: 2/18/2011 6:59 PM
UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
We have a tendency to give up 3-pointers to teams that don't usually shoot them well, but Winthrop might be the worst we've faced. They've made the 13th-fewest in the country and are shooting 30.5 percent on them (and worse in conference play).
Believe it or not, BG actually shoots the 3-ball considerably worse (28.6% for 336th), but made half (7-14) on us.
cc cat wrote:expand_more
that's because most fans only know names, not programs.
Too true.
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Posted: 2/18/2011 10:57 PM
The "ankle" going to get a night off?  How about Jacobs getting court time?
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Posted: 2/19/2011 1:18 PM
Headed to the game tonight with my wife. Driving the 80 miles from Columbia, SC. This will be my first OU basketball game in probably 15 years.
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Posted: 2/19/2011 2:39 PM
Have fun, PhiTau!  Hope the guys put on a good performance for you!
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Posted: 2/19/2011 3:43 PM
Has anyone tried to become a member on Winthrop's site?  It say's you can watch any archived material FREE...does it work and does anybody know how fast they update?
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Posted: 2/19/2011 4:30 PM
I am a long time lurker going back to the days of the original site. I finally decided I would start posting.

I am getting ready to head up to the Winthrop game in a few minutes. I am excited. This will be the first Ohio Basketball game I have seen in person since the MAC Tournament 8 years ago. I went to the Tennessee football game and the GMAC bowl game, but have not been able to attend any basketball games. There are few us alums from Greenville, SC making the trip up to Rock Hill today.
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Posted: 2/19/2011 7:59 PM
If you you would tell someone that a team would score 26 points in the 1st 10 minutes and 4 in the last would you believe it was possible?
Well Ohio did just that..
That performance is unbelievable, just plan unbelievable.





GO BOBCATS
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Posted: 2/19/2011 8:09 PM
Its like we're afraid of blowing people out because we don't want to be rude.

that, and Johnson and Hall we're all over the place.
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Posted: 2/19/2011 9:15 PM
whew...........
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Posted: 2/19/2011 9:16 PM
Life on the road in the SoCon.
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Posted: 2/19/2011 9:18 PM
Nice game by Tommy, man's game by Devaughn, and a nice OT performance by D.J. after a rough first 40.  Need to bring a good road effort at Kent next Saturday.  I would mention BGSU on Wednesday, but they are really struggling these days.
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Posted: 2/19/2011 9:29 PM
I feel relieved even after giving up a 20 point lead and having never given up the lead that we won this game.

I'm also glad that we are back on the right side of these overtime games. The Bobcats hadn't won one since the Akron game last year.
Last Edited: 2/19/2011 9:53:03 PM by Jughead
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Posted: 2/19/2011 9:34 PM
I guess we have to say they persevered. That's a positive for this team.
They really gutted this one out.








GO BOBCATS
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Posted: 2/19/2011 9:43 PM
ohio9704 wrote:expand_more
I would mention BGSU on Wednesday, but they are really struggling these days.


The Falcons are in the middle of a total collapse.  They lost tonight to Youngstown State, who are an impressive 2-14 in the Horizon.
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Posted: 2/19/2011 9:49 PM
Bobcat Dragon wrote:expand_more
I would mention BGSU on Wednesday, but they are really struggling these days.


The Falcons are in the middle of a total collapse.  They lost tonight to Youngstown State, who are an impressive 2-14 in the Horizon.


Somehow YSU did manage to beat Butler this year, though.

But in general, YSU sucks so much that we often mistake the sound as coming from Oxford (it's still coming from there too, it just gets drowned out by YSU).
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Posted: 2/19/2011 9:57 PM
I flushed 5 bucks down the toilet trying to watch the game online.  I never got the feed but I'll take the victory - another blown lead but there is no question that our guys are resilient.  I thought we were cooked when it went to OT.  Great job by DJ to step up in OT while Tommy and DeVaughn had great games throughout.  I'm getting pumped for the stretch run.  Even though this game doesn't effect us in the standings, it was a major confidence-builder and keeps us heading in the right direction.  I hope we can get better on the boards though - Winthrop killed us on the offensive glass late in the game.
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Posted: 2/19/2011 10:52 PM
Every time I think I'm out, they pull me back in.

I think we wallop BG Wednesday.  Getting excited about the stretch run.
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