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Posted: 2/18/2011 10:45 PM
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yup - like that - no need to be defensive.
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Posted: 2/19/2011 10:29 AM
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I wasn't, just responding.
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Posted: 2/21/2011 5:29 PM
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Just wanted to say that Wes Lowery of The Post saw my posts and e-mailed me.According to him,The Post never recieved my fax.
Knowing how much trouble we have recieving faxes sometimes I can understand this happening.He said that if I e-mail my letter,it should be printed next week.
He also said the The Post prints virtuall every letter they recieve.

I'll e-mail it today and see what happens.


Just to give credit,where credit is due,The Post printed my letter in today's issue.
Guess,from now on, I'll email any letters I send them.
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Posted: 2/21/2011 8:36 PM
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Kinda unrelated. I was reading the letter in the Post, and stumbled on this gem of a letter.

http://www.thepost.ohiou.edu/main.asp?SectionID=4&Sub...

Apparently this guy thinks it would be a good idea to use the OU golf course as a site for 8fest.
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Posted: 2/22/2011 6:49 AM
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bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:expand_more
Kinda unrelated. I was reading the letter in the Post, and stumbled on this gem of a letter.

http://www.thepost.ohiou.edu/main.asp?SectionID=4&Sub...

Apparently this guy thinks it would be a good idea to use the OU golf course as a site for 8fest.


I saw that letter too.  I know this guy and it's way out of character for him to make such uninformed statements.  Lots of students play that course everyday and to my knowledge, the golf course gets no direct student fee money.  They may get a portion of what goes to campus rec but that amount is very small.
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Posted: 2/22/2011 10:45 PM
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Not to put this thread on an express train to Siberia, but did anyone else notice how The Post a few days ago chastised Athens County school districts for not seeking/accepting a round of stimulus money?

I mean, there was not one scintilla of recognition in their editorial that the strings attached to the federal teat (or the possibility that the schools would nurture a different model of self-reliance) might put them ahead of the curve by rejecting it.

I just don't get what they're driving at with their continual bold-but-inexperienced posture.
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Posted: 2/23/2011 10:49 PM
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. . .  I just don't get what they're driving at with their continual bold-but-inexperienced posture.


Hopefully they are learning a little as they make these kinds of mistakes.  But for that to occur they need to be getting the proper feedback from others, particularly the J-school faculty.  I'm not sure the extent to which this happening on a regular basis.  I know that not all of the people who write for the post are journalism majors, but the J-school still has a major influence in this arena. 
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Posted: 2/24/2011 7:35 AM
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PutnamField wrote:expand_more
Not to put this thread on an express train to Siberia, but did anyone else notice how The Post a few days ago chastised Athens County school districts for not seeking/accepting a round of stimulus money?

I mean, there was not one scintilla of recognition in their editorial that the strings attached to the federal teat (or the possibility that the schools would nurture a different model of self-reliance) might put them ahead of the curve by rejecting it.

I just don't get what they're driving at with their continual bold-but-inexperienced posture.


As well they should have.  To forgo those funds and at the same time ask for a levy is just crazy.  Had The Post done a better job and if the ANews and Messenger would have done their jobs, we would have found out from the respective superintendents exactly what was so cumbersome/troublesome that they refused the money.  Logan took almost $600,000 as did many other surrounding districts.   Are we to believe that those districts are clueless and the ones in Athens County know everything?
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Posted: 2/24/2011 12:37 PM
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Alan, I would agree that the missing piece from that article was a stronger explanation of what the "strings attached" were, especially because it was accompanied by an editorial slamming the districts. It implied that the big sticking point was the stimulus funding not being usable for teacher salaries, but it didn't go into enough detail or ask questions directly enough. An article like that is unlikely to separate anyone from their opinion going in.

OCF, as far as I know the only "adult" in the room at The Post is Robert Sumney, the business manager. I don't think that's much different than it was in previous years or decades, so I don't know how to explain the recent observable nosedive in quality.
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Posted: 2/24/2011 3:17 PM
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Alan, I would agree that the missing piece from that article was a stronger explanation of what the "strings attached" were, especially because it was accompanied by an editorial slamming the districts. It implied that the big sticking point was the stimulus funding not being usable for teacher salaries, but it didn't go into enough detail or ask questions directly enough. An article like that is unlikely to separate anyone from their opinion going in.


That's how I read it to.  When 80 - 85% of your budget is wrapped up in personnel costs, wouldn't it make sense to accept money to further develop that talent?  I sure hope the local papers do a sit down interview with these folks and ask the hard questions so that the tax payers can get some straight answers.
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Posted: 2/24/2011 4:01 PM
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OCF, as far as I know the only "adult" in the room at The Post is Robert Sumney, the business manager. I don't think that's much different than it was in previous years or decades, so I don't know how to explain the recent observable nosedive in quality.

I can't see how anyone could think the print journalism business is the most attractive industry to enter these days...  Perhaps The Post has less of a talent pool to grab from?  The Post actually just ran an article on all the online journalism startups coming out of OU these past couple of years...  My guess is that many of the most talented journalists are choosing that route.  This is all just my speculation though.
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Posted: 2/24/2011 4:32 PM
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OCF, as far as I know the only "adult" in the room at The Post is Robert Sumney, the business manager. I don't think that's much different than it was in previous years or decades, so I don't know how to explain the recent observable nosedive in quality.

I can't see how anyone could think the print journalism business is the most attractive industry to enter these days...  Perhaps The Post has less of a talent pool to grab from?  The Post actually just ran an article on all the online journalism startups coming out of OU these past couple of years...  My guess is that many of the most talented journalists are choosing that route.  This is all just my speculation though.


This HAS to be true. The top students graduating high school today are not headed into journalism, particularly as an undergraduate major. It's a career kamikaze! Look for the Post and A-News to get worse and worse.
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Posted: 2/24/2011 5:35 PM
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The Optimist wrote:expand_more
OCF, as far as I know the only "adult" in the room at The Post is Robert Sumney, the business manager. I don't think that's much different than it was in previous years or decades, so I don't know how to explain the recent observable nosedive in quality.

I can't see how anyone could think the print journalism business is the most attractive industry to enter these days...  Perhaps The Post has less of a talent pool to grab from?  The Post actually just ran an article on all the online journalism startups coming out of OU these past couple of years...  My guess is that many of the most talented journalists are choosing that route.  This is all just my speculation though.


Don't forget WOUB.  Post alumni have had similar conversations.  The reputation of the paper in Scripps has fallen through the floor.
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