Here's a fun one...if fyou take a Trent team and play this schedule they would probably have a BETTER record than this team.  I repeat, a "better record" does not make for a "better team". 

Not trying to go overboard, I'm just asking who is responsible for what I see as weaknessness? It's his team, his players. A 19-5. record is nice, even if the way we win is often annoying. All I know is that this team is indeed is a Jeckyl and Hyde team,capable of good games,bad games, good stretches,bad stretches and not someone to bet on. 24 games in and ther e is no way to predict what will happen from minute to minute or game to game.After the season is over would be a better time to judge this team IMHO.

You're going to get that with college-aged players, 66. But the last time the coach challenged the team, they responded. I think they'll respond again.

LOL - It was pretty crappy live as well

I thought offensively D.J. played pretty well with the exception that he had a couple of passes that were a little off the mark and uncharacteristic of him. I agree with Coach Groce that Reggie tried to take it at Toledo most of the time, whereas few others did. Offutt did but it was almost like he was so intent on drawing fouls that he didn't finish. Johnson and Offutt have defended well all year but Pearson had their way with them and got to the offensive glass way too much. Kellogg shot pretty well but I thought his defense wasn't up to his usual standard either. Again, I hope a lesson is learned. I think it will be. Every team has letdowns. This team has learned from its mistakes more often than not.

Last 10 regular season games, post season games:

06/07: 5-5, 1-1
07/08: 5-5, 1-2
08/09: 4-6, 1-1
09/10: 6-4, 5-1
10/11: 7-3, 2-2

Analyse away.

Prolly the ONLY fairly consistent positive component of the year

lol ... I know. I've agreed with nearly everything Van has posted for years.

Unfortunately, I was only able to get the feed for the final 12 minutes or so.  The lack of rebounding has been noted, but I was impressed by how we were creating turnovers, stretching out the game and converting offensively once we got Toledo into a track meet.  We may have been able to swing the momentum or at least regain our intensity if we had played this style earlier in the game before going down by 13 in the second half (I'm assuming we didn't since I wasn't able to watch earlier).  

Toledo was on their heels due to our press but of course we called off the dogs when we took the lead and they ended up converting a three point play.  We also never seem to be able to draw up a decent play when we have the last possession and we had two or three chances in this game.  I'm still feeling good about our chances in Cleveland - we've proven our ability to compete against Akron, Kent and Buffalo and I'm optimistic this game will serve as a wake up call.

Disagree, UpSan.  You go with your strength and your identity.

If memory serves, 'ville is known as a defensive, pressing team.  I wonder how often they give that up in the last minute.

Every team we play has to fear our press.  More so when it hurts them during the game.  I want them to feel that extra pressure at pressure time.

I thought this was the year we could go 8/9 deep and put a lot of pressure on teams.  Seems like since MAC play the number of possessions and points per game has gone down a lot.  We hadn't scored 70 for quite a few games because we pass around the perimeter for 30 seconds and don't attack the rim.  If we really have 7/8 superior athletes why not go after people full court more and up the tempo?

For Toledo to our score us by 61-33 in that run its clear the Bobcats though the game was over at 15-0 and quit for the nite. If the goal is to win championships like Akron and Kent State have you don't go one cruise control 5 minutes into a game. We are not a young team. Cooper, Baltic, Offutt, Keely are juniors with Kellogg and Johnson  playing significant time over the past two seasons. This team has lots of talent and post season experience. This team plays well when it shows up like the Lamar,  Louisville, Marshall, Northern Iowa, Wright State, Portland, Oakland, Buffalo, Kent State games. Other games the Bobcats seems to fall asleep for 5 minutes periods and play like NIU, Tenn-Martin or Kennesaw State. I think we are the type of team that plays to the schedule. Next year they have to really challange this team because the non-conference schedule hasn't made this team better in February when it starts to count. We are just expecting teams to fall apart because we are 19-4. Toledo wasn't afraid of us and neither was BGSU, Akron, Miami, WMU, or Ball State. We are playing like we are some 9-14 team who best win was Chicago State non-conference.  Ohio seems to think every year seeding doesn't matter and we will just get some run going in Cleveland. There is a huge difference now with getting the bye to the semis. The players need to not overlook anyone. They overlooked a bad Toledo team this week and got their butts kicked. That act of lazy sloppy play cost this team any chance of winning the east title and one of those two spots. Now we better beat EMU, BGSU, UB, Akron,Kent State and absolutely kick Miami silly to finish the regular season. We can't afford any more lackluster efforts. We have f'd up twice losing to BGSU and Toledo. This team now must win its remaining games to make up for that and get one of those semifinal bye's.