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No, thanks for the corrections. Those were mistakes made by the editor, so I would not have seen them. Sent in the corrections.

Ohio has won its home games and beat only Northern Illinois on the road in MAC play.

Buffalo has won at Miami, at BG, at NIU and at Toledo. The Bulls also have given Akron their only MAC loss.

I certainly think there is a case for Buffalo being ahead of Ohio.

Are you saying that if we win tonight and at Miami we would move ahead of them? 

That means you put more value on the BG games than the Ohio-Buffalo game.  The difference in the BG games was miniscule.  With a minute and a half to go in the game we were tied and Buffalo was losing by a point.  I just have a hard time giving more weight to the last minute and a half of BG-Buffalo and BG-Ohio than I do the Ohio-Buffalo game.

Buffalo doesn't have the same record and doesn't have the tougher schedule. They may have had the tougher conference schedule to date (marginally) but Ohio's full season performance is better.

OUr road record is 6-3  compared to their 5-5 road record  And our road wins (RPI 52, 61, 134, 208, 216, 336) are more impressive than their road wins (71, 175, 206, 283, 336).   Our conference road losses (Ohio 54, 175 vs Buffalo 80,223 ) are even more impressive.     I just find it odd that the reason we dropped was our WINS were not impressive enough. 

I'm a UB and a Ohio fan and I believe that it is a mistake to have UB ahead of Ohio. I cover the Bulls when I'm home on break and there is no way that they are more talented than Ohio.

Any argument of putting UB ahead of Ohio right now is flawed if you look at the numbers and break it down.

Even performance wise, watch some UB games. They do not win pretty. They win their games in just as ugly of a fashion as Ohio. Not to mention there loss at Miami (ohio) is worse than our loss at Bowling Green and they lost to us head to head.

And, they are only 14-6 compared to us being 19-4. I'm saying this as a fan of both teams, you can't have UB ahead of Ohio right now. I get that they're hot and Ohio is winning ugly and that power rankings are an inexact science BUT, UB has not shown enough yet to be called the 2nd best team in the MAC.

I don't know what to tell you man other than I watch a lot of UB basketball through covering them and I don't think they deserve to be ranked where you put them. I have a pretty good idea about their team and I see all of there games. They put up good stats, I know that. But they don't get enough consistency from their guards. Oldham is improving but Filzen has not been as good during MAC play. They are beasically run by McCrea and Watt and if you control them, they're nothing. Ohio, while guard oriented, also has competent bigs. When it comes down to us matching up with them, we're a hard team for UB to beat.

You have the right to your opinion, I have my opinion. I'm just gonna say, the numbers are in Ohio's favor and the eye test goes in Ohio's favor. The only thing that goes UB's way is in game statistics, but even that can be factored out when you consider that Ohio plays some of the best defense in the MAC.

They're both good teams and are close teams. I just don't think they deserve to be ahead of Ohio right now. And I can tell you my friends that cover UB agree with me as well. U just can't throw out a head to head matchup when doing PR like this, especially when it was a mostly one-sided game. (and idc if it was a home game for Ohio).

Dude, I'm not even going to argue this anymore. I can tell you that it is amazing that they are winning with the way Filzen is prodcing. But you know what, he hasn't been showing up so what makes you think he'll turn it around. Secondly, you want to know what numbers in OU's favor? How about W/L totals, rpi, good wins, defense points allowed per game, overall points differential (crazy to include ooc), steals. You're looking at mainly offensive number in which UB is better at. And I know I didn't word my third point well but I meant, OU's defense neutralizes whatever good UB offense can do. As we saw when UB took on OU, there much heralded offense did nothing against our defense (I don't care about opponents O. Our D can shut down the majority of teams). And of course its not easy to shut down McCrea and Watt, but if you watched the amount of UB basketball that I did, you would know that it is possible and that McCrea is vastly overrated. McCrea is very good but doesn't dominate much. I would even go as far to say that Watt is better. The fact is, if either of them have an off night, they are toast. I know you said that's hard to stop but it happens a lot when they play good teams. I've seen them too many times play very poorly against average to decent talent (aka Princeton, St. Bonaventure). And my last point was that you didn't put enough emphasis on their head to head matchup.

And last i'll say is this, I know mid-major polls and things like this get criticized, but there is multiple reasons why we are 16th and they aren't even ranked (9 total votes). Its not hard to see why. They may end up better than us but right now they aren't. And please stop with the H/A, conference strength of schedule stuff. You play the game on the schedule and you WIN or LOSE. Simple as that. We are 7-2, they are 7-2. OUr rpi 80 (19-4). UB rpi 88 (14-6).

The only way I can see you putting UB ahead of OU is if you actually think UB is a better team than OU. Which I would be fine if you said that and would stop arguing with you. The problem is you're trying to justify it with other reasoning which doesn't favor UB.

And I'm sorry if this comes across as rude or has bad grammar. I just typed this up fast because I had to respond. Believe me, I'm still a UB die-hard (i was pissed when UB lost to OU in 2004), and I think you're wrong.

Also, one last point, if you do think UB is truly the better team, throw out the rosters and show me how UB is better because I'm just not buying it.

I'm fine with that if that's what he meant. I know I went a little overboard with my assessments. Interesting point though, UB still has to go on the road to take on Akron and Kent. That's going to be tough for them, plus, they historically fall back down to earth during the second portion of MAC play. This UB team might be different but idk yet.

I'm hoping that neither team stumbles down the stretch and honestly, I don't think either will that bad. I think both OU and UB will finish strong but I think OU will finish ahead just based on the fact that I think we'll take care of business against UB at alumni arena.

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Nevermind..........

Put UB wherever you want now after that OU disaster tonight.