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Posted: 3/11/2012 12:11 AM
Latest Palm bracket.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

After OU knocks off IU on Friday then it will play the winner of No. 5 Creighton and play-in winner. Sets up a possible Sweet 16 matchup against No. 1 Syracuse.

Looks like a good draw - Nashville should attract some OU fans as well.

Obviously, Columbus, Louisville and Pittsburgh would also be good opening round locations for the Bobcats in regards to getting some support.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 12:17 AM
No way we get Columbus.

Per the NCAA "PRINCIPLES AND PROCEDURES FOR ESTABLISHING THE BRACKET"
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The committee should specifically avoid putting teams with a 5 or lower seed at a "home-crowd disadvantage."

http://deadspin.com/5890921/for-the-first-time-the-ncaa-s...

Basically, we are too close to Columbus and since we will most likely be playing a 5-seed or better, it would create too much of an advantage for us.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 12:25 AM
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No way we get Columbus.

Per the NCAA "PRINCIPLES AND PROCEDURES FOR ESTABLISHING THE BRACKET"
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The committee should specifically avoid putting teams with a 5 or lower seed at a "home-crowd disadvantage."

http://deadspin.com/5890921/for-the-first-time-the-ncaa-s...

Basically, we are too close to Columbus and since we will most likely be playing a 5-seed or better, it would create too much of an advantage for us.


Hmmm. Did not know that. Very unfortunate.

I did notice the example used doesn't really fit with Ohio's situation, but you are right it is probably too close.

- "The committee should specifically avoid putting teams with a 5 or lower seed at a "home-crowd disadvantage." For example, Michigan will never be placed in a pod that has them playing their first two games in Columbus, Ohio, one of the regional hosts. To avoid this and other geographic problems, the committee is allowed to change a team's seed by one, in either direction, if there is no other way around it." -

That being said, would like to a draw in Louisville, Nashville or Pittsburgh - all in driving distance

More importantly, would like for them to get a team they match up well against - preferably a team with a short front-court. If Zeke Marshall wasn't such a basket case - Akron probably wins that game tonight.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 12:29 AM
Five of the eight second and third round sites are within 7 hours by car, with Nashville being the furthest of those.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 12:37 AM
Lash wrote:expand_more
- "The committee should specifically avoid putting teams with a 5 or lower seed at a "home-crowd disadvantage." For example, Michigan will never be placed in a pod that has them playing their first two games in Columbus, Ohio, one of the regional hosts. To avoid this and other geographic problems, the committee is allowed to change a team's seed by one, in either direction, if there is no other way around it." -


I don't think the author of the article had the right interpretation of the rule. Here's one of the comments that I think has a more accurate description of the rule:

Deadspin comment wrote:expand_more
While the Michigan/Columbus reading of "home-crowd disadvantage" is creative, that's not what they mean. The only way Michigan would have to avoid Columbus would be if Ohio State were in the same bracket and lower-seeded (which couldn't happen anyway because OSU is the host institution and you can't play at a site where you're also the host institution). For example, N.C. State and North Carolina's rivalry has been more fruitful than any OSU-Michigan basketball rivalry, but North Carolina regularly plays opening round games in Raleigh.

A more-apt example of the what the committee means by "home-crowd disadvantage" is found in Nashville this year. Belmont (located, but not the host institution, in Nashville) will be in the tournament, but will not be a regionally protected (top-4) seed. Therefore, they will not be allowed to play in Nashville, because the team that plays them will have a higher seed than them and would face the dreaded "home-crowd disadvantage."



Using that interpretation Columbus is out, but I think Pittsburgh is far enough away that it wouldn't create a disadvantage for the other team.

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Posted: 3/11/2012 12:55 AM
I'd guess a 14. Ohio's RPI is similar to Belmont, Davidson and New Mexico State.

Of the lower conference auto bids I'd guess
14 Seeds - Montana + 3 of 4 above
15 Seeds - Loyola MD, LIU-Brooklyn, Lehigh, Detroit
16 Seeds (6 including playing games) - Lamar, UNC Asheville, Norfolk St, Vermont, Mississippi Valley State, Western Kentucky
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Posted: 3/11/2012 9:14 AM
Eagle66 wrote:expand_more
I'd guess a 14. Ohio's RPI is similar to Belmont, Davidson and New Mexico State.

Of the lower conference auto bids I'd guess
14 Seeds - Montana + 3 of 4 above
15 Seeds - Loyola MD, LIU-Brooklyn, Lehigh, Detroit
16 Seeds (6 including playing games) - Lamar, UNC Asheville, Norfolk St, Vermont, Mississippi Valley State, Western Kentucky


The RPI updates could have us stretching to a 12.......highly doubt it though as most of the play ins are on the 12 line. I would say you could argue a solid 13.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 9:39 AM
87OU Alum wrote:expand_more
The RPI updates could have us stretching to a 12.......highly doubt it though as most of the play ins are on the 12 line. I would say you could argue a solid 13.


Agreed. Half the 12s are the last of the at large teams. 
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Posted: 3/11/2012 10:19 AM
Root for St. Bonaventure today. A win by the Brown Indians would slot us up one more spot.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 10:45 AM
OUVan wrote:expand_more
The RPI updates could have us stretching to a 12.......highly doubt it though as most of the play ins are on the 12 line. I would say you could argue a solid 13.


Agreed. Half the 12s are the last of the at large teams. 


Last year only one play-in game (UAB-Clemson) was for a 12 seed. The other (USC-VCU) was for an 11. If the selection committee seeds the last four in the same way this year, I can see us maybe grabbing one of the three remaining 12 seeds.
Last Edited: 3/11/2012 10:46:22 AM by Tyler
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Posted: 3/11/2012 10:58 AM
Youngstown Bobcat wrote:expand_more
The RPI updates could have us stretching to a 12.......highly doubt it though as most of the play ins are on the 12 line. I would say you could argue a solid 13.


Agreed. Half the 12s are the last of the at large teams. 


Last year only one play-in game (UAB-Clemson) was for a 12 seed. The other (USC-VCU) was for an 11. If the selection committee seeds the last four in the same way this year, I can see us maybe grabbing one of the three remaining 12 seeds.


I didn't know that. That's good news.  I just hope we get an overseeded Big Six team and not an underseeded Mid.  
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Posted: 3/11/2012 11:28 AM
I have yet to see a projection where we are NOT playing a Big Ten team.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 12:17 PM
Lundari now has us playing Florida State.  FSU's resume still isn't static.  They go up with a win and would take a small hit with a loss that might be minimal enough for it not to change their slot.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 1:02 PM

In the spirit of MAC Justice...and to follow-up on UMass beating Temple on the day the announced their intent to leave the A-10 for "greener pastures".  I'd like to see Ohio make the jump to a 12  seed and Temple take a little drop to a 5 and give those nice guys from Philly a little bitch-slap on behalf of MAC Basketball. 

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Posted: 3/11/2012 1:28 PM
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