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Posted: 3/20/2012 5:29 PM
I know for a fact that West Virginia and Indiana both go by WVU and IU in their respective regions. A few years ago Pitt was trying the same thing and was rebranding itself "Pittsburgh". They even changed their colors slightly from a yellow gold and bright blue to an old gold and darker blue. People still refer to them as "Pitt", although their uniforms say Pittsburgh. I grew up in Cleveland and we always said OU or Ohio U. They still do in that area.

Would Coke get upset if you didn't call it Coca Cola? I guess if that's what they want to call us, so be it. Embrace it. If people are confused by "Ohio" and not by Ohio U, from any marketing standpoint you would want your brand to create less confusion, not more. When I tell people I graduated from Ohio U or Ohio University, they know what I mean. If I say Ohio, more than half the time they do not. As Moe Green once said, "If we're going to talk business, then let's talk business."
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Posted: 3/20/2012 5:55 PM
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I will only accept us being called Ohio U when the following universities all use the "U" suffix in the same manner

Maryland
West Virginia
Virginia
North Carolina
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida
Alabama
Mississippi
Tennessee
Kentucky
Arkansas
Michigan
Indiana
Illinios
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Missouri
Kansas
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Texas
Colorado
New Mexico
Arizona
Utah
Oregon
Washington

Does anyone happen to know how UConn and UMass feel about the U?


http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20120319/SPORTS/3...
http://www.gogamecocks.com/2011/06/07/121887/ggf-usc-ecu-...

http://www.ajc.com/sports/uga/

I could find a lot of others but it's not worth my time -- Georgia and South Carolina don't have any hangups.
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Posted: 3/20/2012 6:37 PM
My email address was/is @ohiou.edu.  I'm pretty sure when I was applying, our primary web address was www.ohiou.edu.  Both my wife and I are "used" to our institution being called Ohio U.

Out here (Kansas) if we say "OU" it's Oklahoma.  And if we say "the other OU" it's Oregon.  And if we went to "Ohio" then "well, that's an interesting place to go visit."  Only when we went to "Ohio University" or "Ohio U" does it click in their heads.  

And even then they're confused about the other schools... up until a few years ago it was "we're the ones that are not known for playing sports."

I say things are better now.  They at least know who Ohio U is.

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Posted: 3/20/2012 6:46 PM
We've been called OHIO athletically for years -- way before any of us on this board were born.  I earlier posted a photo of a turn of the century (circa 1900) Ohio University baseball team that had jerseys with OHIO on them.  It wasn't until the Evil Empire (circa 1930) decided to co-op the word "Ohio" that some OU students, alumni and friends kowtowed to the Evil Empire and added the "U" to say were weren't them guys.  It was a period of self-loathing, which we've been digging ourselves out of now since the 1960s when Vernon Alden realized that poor self-image that we had and that it needed to be changed.  I should point out that even during the Dark Days of institutional confusion we never put "Ohio U." on any sports jersey for one of our varsity teams that I've ever seen.  We at least had that much self respect.  I've been listening to ESPN radio and Westwood NCAA on my XM Radio for the last few days and I've yet to hear an announcer or show host refer to us as anything but 'Ohio."  The times they are a changing.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 12:21 AM
StevenHPerry wrote:expand_more
My email address was/is @ohiou.edu.  I'm pretty sure when I was applying, our primary web address was www.ohiou.edu.  Both my wife and I are "used" to our institution being called Ohio U.
While I was there (last four years), they made a move to the primary being ohio.edu (though there are some things that still use the now old domain, like The Post).  It's the kind of thing that takes time to catch on, and like others, I'd rather they talk about us than not talk about us.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:46 AM
You'll never hear someone say they go/went to Massachusetts, it's UMass or even UMass Amherst. New Hampshire is nearly always UNH, URI same way. It's not the Maine Black Bears, it's the UMaine Black Bears. Vermont you're more likely to hear they went to UVM as opposed to Vermont.

Connecticut goes either way but more of my friends say they went to UConn.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 4:48 AM
There's a difference between how we refer to the University using shorthand and among friends as opposed to how we ask to be addressed on the (national) media/sports level.

I'm not a big fan of 'branding.'  But this is one of the rare cases where I'm for it.  Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Florida, Washington, etc, and Ohio.  Not OU, not Ohio U.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 8:24 AM
So following your logic, Monroe,  "OU, Oh yeah" is not acceptable to members of the name militia?

We can't have it both ways.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 8:42 AM
Ohio U., OU, Ohio University, Ohio--don't really care, because the real name now is Winner.

Thanks Coach Solich and thank you John Groce for assembling outstanding talent and winning.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 12:15 PM
Bobcatbob wrote:expand_more
So following your logic, Monroe,  "OU, Oh yeah" is not acceptable to members of the name militia?

We can't have it both ways.


I was thinking the same thing.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 12:20 PM

Also, when I was a student in Athens all the gear said Ohio University.
Hell, I'm an Alum and I still catch myself saying Ohio University........as we never referred to ourselves as Ohio back in the 80.......we were OU plain and simple.

But then again......I still refer to the idiots in Oxford as the Redskins.

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Posted: 3/21/2012 12:33 PM
Of course for NBC intros Patriots safety du jour James Ihedigbo introduced himself as being from ZooMass.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 12:41 PM
To me there are three names that are acceptable:  Ohio University, OU (we are the first one after all), and of course Ohio.  If we're going to fight with A&M about the right to use Ohio and if people are going to throw a fit when A&M tries to use it themselves, then why shouldn't we be upset when people refer to us nationally as Ohio U and not Ohio?

Look...like all of you, I'm very happy that Ohio is in the national media and being discussed as much as we are at the moment.  I also know that from a branding standpoint, being in the Sweet 16 offers Ohio the opportunity to gain a distinction as OHIO and build national recognition as OHIO, especially with the juxtaposition of A&M still in the tournament and all the press the state of Ohio has received for being the first state to ever get four teams in the Sweet 16.  This is the perfect opportunity to build brand awareness as Ohio.

As others have noted, when you say you went to Ohio in other parts of the country, you often need to explain you didn't go to A&M.  The biggest part of that is because of their athletic success and the brand recognition they have nationally.  People won't know Ohio overnight, and I wouldn't expect them to.  As the saying goes, Rome wasn't built in a day.  It takes time to construct that brand, and you must take advantage of opportunities when they present themselves.  This is our chance to throw down some building blocks for national brand recognition as Ohio.


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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:02 PM
Bobcatbob wrote:expand_more
So following your logic, Monroe,  "OU, Oh yeah" is not acceptable to members of the name militia?

We can't have it both ways.


You missed my point.  I said that it's okay for we fans to address ourselves among ourselves as OU or Ohio U, etc.  But the media should call us 'Ohio.'

Of course the cheer works better as OU, Oh Yeah, than Ohio, Oh Yeah.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:12 PM
Jerry86 wrote:expand_more
I will only accept us being called Ohio U when the following universities all use the "U" suffix in the same manner

Maryland
West Virginia
Virginia
North Carolina
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida
Alabama
Mississippi
Tennessee
Kentucky
Arkansas
Michigan
Indiana
Illinios
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Missouri
Kansas
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Texas
Colorado
New Mexico
Arizona
Utah
Oregon
Washington

Does anyone happen to know how UConn and UMass feel about the U?


http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20120319/SPORTS/3...
http://www.gogamecocks.com/2011/06/07/121887/ggf-usc-ecu-...

http://www.ajc.com/sports/uga/

I could find a lot of others but it's not worth my time -- Georgia and South Carolina don't have any hangups.


I must have missed something.  Nowhere in those articles did I see South Carolina refered to as South Carolina U.  or Georgia as Georgia U.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:17 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
So following your logic, Monroe,  "OU, Oh yeah" is not acceptable to members of the name militia?

We can't have it both ways.


You missed my point.  I said that it's okay for we fans to address ourselves among ourselves as OU or Ohio U, etc.  But the media should call us 'Ohio.'

Of course the cheer works better as OU, Oh Yeah, than Ohio, Oh Yeah.


My thinking lines up completely with Monroe here. We are the OHIO Bobcats, not the Ohio U. Bobcats.

Of course among friends I say OU often because it is good shorthand and it eliminates all confusion. But in official situations I say Ohio University or Ohio. On Friday I had a job interview. The first time I mentioned my undergrad experience I said "at Ohio University....." From then on, when I referenced our esteemed institution I said "In my time at Ohio..." or "while I was studying at Ohio..." Not Ohio U. Not OU. Everyone knew what I meant because I had already pointed out that I attended Ohio University.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:47 PM
Is it possible that we have actually reached a resolution on this?  That all are acceptable and should be used differently depending on the context such that there is no confusion in the conversation, confusion that can be brought about through a multitude of sources depending on the context?

Amazing
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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:49 PM
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You'll never hear someone say they go/went to Massachusetts, it's UMass or even UMass Amherst. New Hampshire is nearly always UNH, URI same way. It's not the Maine Black Bears, it's the UMaine Black Bears. Vermont you're more likely to hear they went to UVM as opposed to Vermont.

Connecticut goes either way but more of my friends say they went to UConn.


Must be a New England thing
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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:50 PM
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Is it possible that we have actually reached a resolution on this?  That all are acceptable and should be used differently depending on the context such that there is no confusion in the conversation, confusion that can be brought about through a multitude of sources depending on the context?

Amazing


All except Ohio U.  There is never any reason to use that.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 2:32 PM
KC Bobcat wrote:expand_more
I will only accept us being called Ohio U when the following universities all use the "U" suffix in the same manner

Maryland
West Virginia
Virginia
North Carolina
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida
Alabama
Mississippi
Tennessee
Kentucky
Arkansas
Michigan
Indiana
Illinios
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Missouri
Kansas
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Texas
Colorado
New Mexico
Arizona
Utah
Oregon
Washington

Does anyone happen to know how UConn and UMass feel about the U?


http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20120319/SPORTS/3...
http://www.gogamecocks.com/2011/06/07/121887/ggf-usc-ecu-...

http://www.ajc.com/sports/uga/

I could find a lot of others but it's not worth my time -- Georgia and South Carolina don't have any hangups.


I must have missed something.  Nowhere in those articles did I see South Carolina refered to as South Carolina U.  or Georgia as Georgia U.



And WHY would they be referred to as you posted? That's not their names. They are University of South Carolina and University of Georgia. Thus, why they are USC and UGA -- as we are OU.
Last Edited: 3/21/2012 2:32:53 PM by Jerry86
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Posted: 3/21/2012 2:37 PM
KC Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Is it possible that we have actually reached a resolution on this?  That all are acceptable and should be used differently depending on the context such that there is no confusion in the conversation, confusion that can be brought about through a multitude of sources depending on the context?

Amazing


All except Ohio U.  There is never any reason to use that.


Ohio U = Ohio University

After all we are NOT Ohio Northern, Ohio Wesleyan or Ohio State so appending the "U" or University makes it clear which university we are.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 3:05 PM
Jerry86 wrote:expand_more
Is it possible that we have actually reached a resolution on this?  That all are acceptable and should be used differently depending on the context such that there is no confusion in the conversation, confusion that can be brought about through a multitude of sources depending on the context?

Amazing


All except Ohio U.  There is never any reason to use that.


Ohio U = Ohio University

After all we are NOT Ohio Northern, Ohio Wesleyan or Ohio State so appending the "U" or University makes it clear which university we are.


That's silly.... Why don't you append U to all of those names then Ohio Northern U., Ohio Wesleyan U., Ohio State U.

After all if you don't add U Ohio Wesleyan could be the name of a church. Better yet, not adding a U could mean that you are referring to Akron or Kent when you say Ohio State. There are a lot of state universities in Ohio.

We are Ohio University. Our sports teams are Ohio. We can abbreviate that as OU. Ohio U. is never necessary.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 4:38 PM
The license plate (WV) on our van says "OHIO U".  OHIO was already taken in West Virginia, so I needed something else.  The plate on my car, however, is "OU 1804".  I try to stick to calling our school Ohio, but I have grown up calling it OU my entire life

Since I am not required to have a front license plate, I have really nice Attack Cat plates on the front of all our vehicles.  If you see us flying across I-70 this week, don't think we are not aware of the branding.  It was the best thing available.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 5:36 PM
bobcat695 wrote:expand_more
The license plate (WV) on our van says "OHIO U".  OHIO was already taken in West Virginia, so I needed something else.  The plate on my car, however, is "OU 1804".  I try to stick to calling our school Ohio, but I have grown up calling it OU my entire life

Since I am not required to have a front license plate, I have really nice Attack Cat plates on the front of all our vehicles.  If you see us flying across I-70 this week, don't think we are not aware of the branding.  It was the best thing available.


I retract my statement that Ohio U. is never necessary. I think your license plate is perfectly acceptable. Also, I have a friend whose license plate is "OU OHYEA"
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Posted: 3/21/2012 9:00 PM
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I also found it interesting that CBS had us listed at "Ohio U." early on Friday leading up to our game and then switched to "Ohio".  One of their producers must have came across our site here haha.


Cutler and the Convo both noticed this early on TH during the broadcasts, and Dan Hauser immediately found CBS staff in Nashville and demanded the change to OHIO.  Too big of an opportunity, especially with the Michigan dust up, to make the point that the University wants us referred to by the media as just OHIO.

And also FYI, President McDavis sent a cordial letter to the President of a Michigan state university strongly suggesting that he educate his coaches that OHIO does take offense to tOSUcks being referred to as OHIO, and that we do feel it is derrogatory.  I really respect that.
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