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Posted: 12/23/2012 12:26 PM
Welcome to the new pretzel thread....

Thinking maybe our scoreboard system is covered under some kind of warranty. There has to be a defect in the product. I mean, when you stop each game an average of TWO times b/c the shot clock doesn't reset - it can't be operator error. Has to be some kind of wiring issue in the circuitry. Maybe some rare earths aren't conducting the proper amount of electricity.

After all - It CANNOT be what the LOVE mentioned at least 3 times on bobcatattack v.1. It can't be the crew at the scorer's table. The same crew who everyone defended with cries of "But LOVE, they work OSHAA games" and "How could you possibly question our beloved guys at the scorers table?" and "One of them is in the OSHAA Hall of Fame."

Yeah, has to be a technical issue with the equipment. After all, it's way out of bounds on this forum to question the crew at the scorers table - as I found out so directly over the past several years.

So I just we'll keep enduring the awkward stoppages of play while the machine limps its way through. Yep. That's the ticket.


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Posted: 12/23/2012 1:05 PM
Does JCW still work the scorer's table?
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Posted: 12/23/2012 2:19 PM
I totally agree Love. No reason for the clock not to be working. Noticed it a couple of times this year.

THe NFHS successfully turned back the fans with hoops ADD at the High School level one more time. Idiotic fans that do not understand the game keep calling for a shot clock in high school ( i will not get into the discussion why kids who have yet to master the fundamentals of passing and dribbling and the mechanics of the game do not need to be rushed into a shot clock situation to satisfy fans) in order to speed up the game and make it a *better* product for the fans and get kids ready for the next level. As if .....there are that many kids going to the next level.

I say successfully because forget about the cost of setting up clocks at every HS venue in America.....the problems we have in collegiate and professional athletics with staffing the tables with an extra guy who actually communicates with the refs and pays attention to the game and runs the clock with any degree of perfection is going to be extremely hard to accomplish across this land.at the HS level..


but I assume your assumption is correct and the problem lies solely in the equipment at OUr beloved university, can't possibly be operator error......well done with the communique.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 2:43 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
Does JCW still work the scorer's table?


Yes, but he is not the issue here.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 3:14 PM
Bobcat Love wrote:expand_more
Welcome to the new pretzel thread....

Thinking maybe our scoreboard system is covered under some kind of warranty. There has to be a defect in the product. I mean, when you stop each game an average of TWO times b/c the shot clock doesn't reset - it can't be operator error. Has to be some kind of wiring issue in the circuitry. Maybe some rare earths aren't conducting the proper amount of electricity.

After all - It CANNOT be what the LOVE mentioned at least 3 times on bobcatattack v.1. It can't be the crew at the scorer's table. The same crew who everyone defended with cries of "But LOVE, they work OSHAA games" and "How could you possibly question our beloved guys at the scorers table?" and "One of them is in the OSHAA Hall of Fame."

Yeah, has to be a technical issue with the equipment. After all, it's way out of bounds on this forum to question the crew at the scorers table - as I found out so directly over the past several years.

So I just we'll keep enduring the awkward stoppages of play while the machine limps its way through. Yep. That's the ticket.


The member at the scorers table you reference doesn't run the shot clock or make your pretzel or fill the soda dispenser at the Nelsonville Taco Bell.  But thanks for trying to sound better than everyone else.   By the way, weren't you supposed to grace us with just one post and then leave again?  Darn, got my hopes up.  
Last Edited: 12/23/2012 3:21:57 PM by Ohio football
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Posted: 12/23/2012 4:23 PM
I miss the gratuitous slam at others but am glad to see we still have the lookatmeness.

When's the walkout?
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Posted: 12/23/2012 4:41 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
...but am glad to see we still have the lookatmeness.


You couldn't even make this stuff up.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 7:32 PM
The first stoppage yesterday saw the play interrupted just as we got Nick ready for a nice trey off the pass......and resulted in a travel on the inbounds to turn the ball over.

Would be nice if the technical difficulties did not interrupt a score and subsequently end up in a turnover for the home team.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 9:01 PM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
The first stoppage yesterday saw the play interrupted just as we got Nick ready for a nice trey off the pass......and resulted in a travel on the inbounds to turn the ball over.

Would be nice if the technical difficulties did not interrupt a score and subsequently end up in a turnover for the home team.


Exactly. Fact. Spot On.

This is precisely why I posted. 

It's not a personal attack on the clock operator(s), but I am certainly questioning the state of affairs when this kind of thing KEEPS happening multiple times per game. 
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Posted: 12/24/2012 12:18 AM
I have no idea if another suddenly arising issue this year is related related or not. As long as I can remember after a player scores or fouls you would always have PLENTY of time to look at the score board and see how many points they had now scored and how many fouls they had now committed - this year the stats disappear in seconds - ? That leads me to believe this anyway is an "operator" issue............. 
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Posted: 12/24/2012 8:16 AM
RSBobcat wrote:expand_more
As long as I can remember after a player scores or fouls you would always have PLENTY of time to look at the score board and see how many points they had now scored and how many fouls they had now committed - this year the stats disappear in seconds - ?


I remember this happening in previous years.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 8:16 PM
I just called Daktronics and I have confirmed that The Convo roof can support a hanging LED video screen.  I also spoke with Richard Vedder.  Rich assured me Ohio University can (and should) designate funds to such a project.  He suggested cuts to the Classics and World Religions Department.  His words, not mine.

The only thing I couldn't confirm is that a 1000 inch screen would fit through the doors to get inside the building.  If it comes down to it, I'm thinking we can blow out my freshman dorm room and squeeze it through there.
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Posted: 12/25/2012 7:16 PM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
Rich assured me Ohio University can (and should) designate funds to such a project.  He suggested cuts to the Classics and World Religions Department.  His words, not mine.


Oh God I can imagine The Post articles already....
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Posted: 12/25/2012 7:56 PM
The clock has also been an ongoing issue during women's games this year. Multiple times a game there is stoppage of play-quite annoying. Why can't this be fixed? Totally different crew runs the clock for the women, so I don't think it's a personnel issue.
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Posted: 12/25/2012 11:40 PM
Bobcat Binge wrote:expand_more
The clock has also been an ongoing issue during women's games this year. Multiple times a game there is stoppage of play-quite annoying. Why can't this be fixed? Totally different crew runs the clock for the women, so I don't think it's a personnel issue.
So is Daktronics sending in a technician? Seems its an equipment issue.
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Posted: 12/26/2012 1:28 AM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
I just called Daktronics and I have confirmed that The Convo roof can support a hanging LED video screen.  I also spoke with Richard Vedder.  Rich assured me Ohio University can (and should) designate funds to such a project.  He suggested cuts to the Classics and World Religions Department.  His words, not mine.

The only thing I couldn't confirm is that a 1000 inch screen would fit through the doors to get inside the building.  If it comes down to it, I'm thinking we can blow out my freshman dorm room and squeeze it through there.

Looks more like April 1 than December 25
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Posted: 12/30/2012 4:36 PM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
I just called Daktronics and I have confirmed that The Convo roof can support a hanging LED video screen.  I also spoke with Richard Vedder.  Rich assured me Ohio University can (and should) designate funds to such a project.  He suggested cuts to the Classics and World Religions Department.  His words, not mine.

The only thing I couldn't confirm is that a 1000 inch screen would fit through the doors to get inside the building.  If it comes down to it, I'm thinking we can blow out my freshman dorm room and squeeze it through there.

Looks more like April 1 than December 25


I do think it would be hilarious that if and when whoever would foot the bill for this takes out an ad in the Post saying they paid for it out of his/her/their pocket and that not a nickel of Cutler Hall's coffers paid for it
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Posted: 1/5/2013 10:13 PM
FOund this while looking for something else. Just thought it was funny as I remembered this thread.

From the infamous Buffalo meltdown 3 years back....obviously we had a problem with the electronics way back then.

Tom Valentino wrote:expand_more
I'm still trying to figure out how Buffalo got a 37-second shot clock to start the second half today. Ball was knocked out of bounds with 1 on the shot clock. Inbounds pass is kicked and shot clock horn goes off at 19:23. Shot clock reset to 15 after the kick, Buffalo sinks a 3 and they're off and running.

Can someone explain how 37 seconds can expire on a 35-second shot clock?

(Side note: That was the least of our problems in the second half today, but still, it's nice to see an oblivious MAC officiating crew carrying on Jerry Sauder's legacy.)


If there is a kicked ball with less than 15 sec on the shot clock, the shot clock is reset to 15 sec. Over 15 sec there are no time changes.


That wasn't the problem.

If you have a 35-second shot clock that starts at 20:00, the shot clock should expire at 19:25. If it was stopped with the horn going off at 19:23, that means somebody started the shot clock at least a second late. The kicked ball should've never happened because if the clock was operated properly, the shot clock would've expired before the kick sequence even happened.

Bad work by the clock operator, bad work by the officials to not clean up an easily identifiable mistake.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 10:19 PM
Twice today we called a timeout with 23 seconds on the shot clock, yet had not crossed half court. I'm not sure how the refs missed that.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 10:25 PM
Refs are very inconstant counters. 10 second rule, 3 in the point, 5 out of bounds, 5 closely guarded, etc.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 10:36 PM
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Refs are very inconstant counters. 10 second rule, 3 in the point, 5 out of bounds, 5 closely guarded, etc.


I was sitting with Jerry Peirson (Miami) at the Hall of Fame classic when we watched a 5 second call that was very quick. Both of us were astonished and looked at each other.....it all got cleared up when the fellow behind us  leaned in and said...'.when you are the visiting team here at New Castle they start counting at 3.......3,4, 5 and blow the whistle'. We both got a good laugh out of that one.

But I did see the clock on 24 and 23 on those possessions.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 11:27 PM
Isn't the official count on 5 sec and 10 sec counts done officially by the official and not dependent on the clock?
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Posted: 1/6/2013 12:00 AM
I'll save my comments, but there was a hilarious moment(s) late in the game:

Cooper and Goff get technicals, and Herrion pulls the refs over for an explanation. After he gets the explanation, he (very audibly) says "You're going to call that NOW?" - Meaning down 30 with 6 or 7 minutes left.

Then, not 30 seconds later he is on the Refs looking for some kind of ticky tack reach in foul. The same kind, of which, they would never call in a blowout with 6 or 7 minutes left.

Great win today. We should all write letters to get Herrion an extension at Marshall. His teams are completely undisciplined, fundamental trainwrecks, who played no semblence of defense. I could have watched that game for hours on end today.
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Posted: 1/6/2013 12:49 AM
Forgot to mention some of the ugliest free throws collectively ever seen in that building.   Man they were bad and it was awesome.   I never want to hear another "we lost to a MAC team" comment from their delusional fans again.  
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