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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:16 AM
Anyone else think it's time for a change in the Women's BB Program? What's this her 4th year and her 4th loosing season?
We need a change.
With the other key sports continue to perform better this one is not keeping pace.





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Posted: 1/21/2013 9:15 AM
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Posted: 1/21/2013 10:14 AM
women's basketball is not a key sport
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Posted: 1/21/2013 1:23 PM
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women's basketball is not a key sport


What's your point? They are still Bobcats and still deserve every opportunity to be successful.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 3:01 PM
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women's basketball is not a key sport


What's your point? They are still Bobcats and still deserve every opportunity to be successful.


It's not the popular sports, so screw them! Who cares about women's basketball? Or swimming? Or volleyball? Or track? Why do we even have them?
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Posted: 1/21/2013 5:26 PM
Women's basketball is a core MAC sport. Absolutely we've got to strive for a strong program. A strong WBB would help build donations from women bobcat alumni.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 5:30 PM
I think it's nice to have a strong program, but if it's a "zero sum" game - I'd rather the majority of time and resources go to football and men's basketball. Those are your best opportunities for gaining national exposure and furthering the university.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 5:49 PM
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I think it's nice to have a strong program, but if it's a "zero sum" game - I'd rather the majority of time and resources go to football and men's basketball. Those are your best opportunities for gaining national exposure and furthering the university.


Having really strong WBB pulls a lot of women out of the woodwork in the community that normally would not have interest in Bobcat Athletics. It a school could engineer a great women's program with strong attendance it would be great publicity for the university.  Ohio athletics is a key driver for the entire community. I'd love it if they could put boutique shops in uptown and attract more women shoppers from Columbus ect. but the market is just not big enough yet. You can try to build a art museum on Carpenter Street that is a major attraction to pull tourist highway but where is the 25 million going to come from? There isn't enough money in the region. At least the attendance can grow in women's basketball since its basketball if the product is seriously good.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 5:49 PM
Tyler Charles wrote:expand_more
They are still Bobcats


Exactly.

I don't think anyone is suggesting we put all of the football money into women's basketball. I think the best solution is for all of our teams to win.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 6:40 PM
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Having really strong WBB pulls a lot of women out of the woodwork in the community that normally would not have interest in Bobcat Athletics. It a school could engineer a great women's program with strong attendance it would be great publicity for the university. 


Huh? I'm calling BS on this one. You're telling me there's some vast, un-tapped market of SE Ohio women that would only come to women's basketball games? I've lived in this area for 30+ years...there isn't.

If you're an OU women's basketball fan, odd are you're likely a bigger OU men's basketball fan. I support both programs, but it's not like I'm traveling to Kalamazoo to watch the women's team.
Last Edited: 1/21/2013 6:42:11 PM by catfan28
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Posted: 1/21/2013 6:53 PM
We charge money for tickets to women's basketball games. More wins leads to more interest which leads to more money. Simple as that. There are MAC schools with well-supported women's programs. Look at Toledo and BG women's basketball. Look at our volleyball team.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 7:18 PM
Catfan28, a walking breathing example of why TitleIX was needed and still an important piece of law.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 7:44 PM
catfan28 wrote:expand_more
I think it's nice to have a strong program, but if it's a "zero sum" game - I'd rather the majority of time and resources go to football and men's basketball. Those are your best opportunities for gaining national exposure and furthering the university.


So sports are just a marketing arm for the university? And athletics for its own sake doesn't mean much?
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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:26 PM
This is a no-win discussion. A winning women's basketball team will have virtually zero impact on campus. Just the same, a losing women's basketball team has had virtually no impact on the down side. There is no arguing that the program is a total disaster right now, but I'm personally not reducing my giving to either the Ohio Bobcat Cub or the university as a result.

Before this turns into a full-blown argument about Title IX, I'll say I do enjoy some women's sports. I think our volleyball and field hockey programs have been great and are a source of pride around campus. When watching women's basketball, however, I always find myself thinking it is slow, sloppy and generally unwatchable compared to the men's game. It's not the same game I have played my whole life. Attendance figures nationally (excluding UConn for some reason) would support my stance.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:44 PM
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Catfan28, a walking breathing example of why TitleIX was needed and still an important piece of law.


Tread lightly...I've attended 6 women's basketball games this year. I'm going out on a limb that accounts for more than 99% of those on BA.com.
Last Edited: 1/21/2013 8:47:11 PM by catfan28
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Posted: 1/21/2013 10:07 PM
catfan28 wrote:expand_more
Having really strong WBB pulls a lot of women out of the woodwork in the community that normally would not have interest in Bobcat Athletics. It a school could engineer a great women's program with strong attendance it would be great publicity for the university. 


Huh? I'm calling BS on this one. You're telling me there's some vast, un-tapped market of SE Ohio women that would only come to women's basketball games? I've lived in this area for 30+ years...there isn't.

If you're an OU women's basketball fan, odd are you're likely a bigger OU men's basketball fan. I support both programs, but it's not like I'm traveling to Kalamazoo to watch the women's team.


Right. We don't have the situation that UConn has where all the women's games are broadcast across the state n PBS and the school backs up on relatively well to do back country New England. Why not aim for it? They've talked about putting retirement communities in SE Ohio along the 33 corridor. I'm not sure it would be enough to change the demographic. The women's program is at least worth trying to put some money into because its a space where the school can be competitive nationally. Volleyball had a huge spike in interest with winning so who knows if we had a serious WBB program down in Athens. The verdict is still out because we've never had it.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 3:09 AM
catfan28 wrote:expand_more
Catfan28, a walking breathing example of why TitleIX was needed and still an important piece of law.


Tread lightly...I've attended 6 women's basketball games this year. I'm going out on a limb that accounts for more than 99% of those on BA.com.
Going to a few games does not absolve you of your attitude that those kids do not matter! And that is exactly the attitude that you exhibited above in this thread.
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