Jerry Lee Lewis is still alive and very much receiving royalties.

He was also blacklisted after his affairs went public. Radio stations banned his songs and his career was derailed. Now, 60 years later--It doesn't mean a thing. His songs are still played. His image is still well-known. It didn't make a difference in principle.

I like Rock 'n Roll Pt 2 as an arena song. It's a good tune. I have a lot of great memories (especially being a hockey fan) with that song. But if we're going to stop using it, it should be because of the chant that has become attached to it. Not because we think that we can make some kind of self-important statement that doesn't land. 

Never watch "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" again. Don't listen to NPR's "Wait wait don't tell me". Don't interact with the office of a certain New Jersey Senator or ex-florida congressman. And, obviously, never watch a woody allen movie.


Tim: I'm fairly sure that he would have gotten royalties when the 110 purchased the sheet music. Purchasing the music typically comes with a license allowing the band to play the music, or at least thats the way it worked for my high school marching band. If that is the case (I don't know if the 110 has purchased, of indeed ever played, the song) then disallowing the song in the future would have no impact on said rapist.

If your priest is molesting children. Do everything in your power to stop him. But that in no way prevents you from gathering with two or more in His name.

Rebuking Gary Glitter does not mean you have to give up on music.

Some of you people are acting like I said the architect of the Convo was a pedophile and I want the building torn down.

A true hallmark of today's amoral society, you (OU77BCJ) throw that "just saying" in there at the end to absolve your statement from any judgement.

 

Two different things. The physical publishing rights give him royalties, but so do the performance rights. PRS (through its partnership with either ASCAP or BMI, which I believe it's BMI in this instance) uses various (and secretive, also controversial) techniques to measure how many times and in which places music gets performed. Believe it or not, there are agents around the country who go to places where music is performed or played and measure it. This is how local bars get shut down for allowing cover bands to play when the bar hasn't paid its annual dues to the publishing companies. The agents also regularly attend sporting venues to measure what and how songs are played.

It all eventually goes into this huge database by which they determine what portion of the lump sum gathering of annual payments goes to which songwriters. So songs that get performed often (such as R&Rpt2) earn a larger lump.

It's a miniscule percentage, but it's also a lump sum of several billion dollars. In the end Gary Glitter makes, I believe a publishing company agent estimated, somewhere north of six figures purely on performance of the song.

This is an unreal conversation. 

What I'm hearing is: If given the personal choice to make a zero or non-zero contribution to a child sex offender by the simple act of playing his song, some on here would make a non-zero contribution. Because the songs sounds so damn good.

You better start cleaning out your iTunes library then. You have some work to do. 

Some of you guys worry about the littlest things sometimes.

And why are you disappointed? Because our society isn't perfect and young kids do stupid stuff? 

Wow, thats an impressive data gathering operation. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]

mf .. you know well the problems DCI (my involvement is with Cavaliers since 1975) and most bands getting rights to use and perform but my biggest dealing with ASCAP and BMI came when I was on the Board of Directors of the Muncie Y. THey had been playing WLBC in the weight rooms and lobby as background music.... the music nazis had exptrapolated that we owed several years of music fees amounting to close to a hundred thousnad dollars .....by their calculation. We negotiated a settlement but I regularly remind my staff that they can not play music in the lobby during office hours due to the problems with music right......(also I do not let them put my Rolling Stone mags on the rack .....to many fundamentalists round here

Sit,

this is an unwinnable battle that would not make a statement. With time and experience comes the wisdom of picking the battles that are winnable and actually mean something.