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Hawaiian Bobcat
7/2/2021 1:39 PM
Which Bobcat will get the first deal and who will it be with it?
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rpbobcat
7/2/2021 2:27 PM
Depends on whether or not Jason stays.
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Deciduous Forest Cat
7/2/2021 3:02 PM
I think that since our athletic department does not make a profit, all nil money should go into a general athletic scholarship fund.
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BillyTheCat
7/2/2021 4:24 PM
Larry’s Dog House will surely pay NIL money to promote Wenie Wednesday
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Eagle66
7/3/2021 9:39 AM
Introducing the newest Barstool Athlete… Colin Granger

https://twitter.com/stoolathletics/status/141099533737697...
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Cats5
7/3/2021 2:01 PM
Eagle66 wrote:expand_more
Introducing the newest Barstool Athlete… Colin Granger

https://twitter.com/stoolathletics/status/141099533737697...
Perfect fit
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Ted Thompson
7/3/2021 3:09 PM

De'Montre Tuggle becomes the first Bobcat to get monetary value. And BobcatAttack.com was happy to help make that happen.

https://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard/topic.asp?FromPage=1&ForumPID=6&PID=315221#FirstNew

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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
7/6/2021 9:18 AM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
I think that since our athletic department does not make a profit, all nil money should go into a general athletic scholarship fund.
I think that because Uber doesn't make a profit, employees and Drivers shouldn't get paid, and all salaries and hourly pay should go into a fund to benefit Uber.
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Deciduous Forest Cat
7/6/2021 11:32 AM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
I think that since our athletic department does not make a profit, all nil money should go into a general athletic scholarship fund.
I think that because Uber doesn't make a profit, employees and Drivers shouldn't get paid, and all salaries and hourly pay should go into a fund to benefit Uber.
Sorry. False analogy.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
7/6/2021 11:38 AM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
I think that since our athletic department does not make a profit, all nil money should go into a general athletic scholarship fund.
I think that because Uber doesn't make a profit, employees and Drivers shouldn't get paid, and all salaries and hourly pay should go into a fund to benefit Uber.
Sorry. False analogy.
Cool. Care to explain how?
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Deciduous Forest Cat
7/6/2021 2:22 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
I think that since our athletic department does not make a profit, all nil money should go into a general athletic scholarship fund.
I think that because Uber doesn't make a profit, employees and Drivers shouldn't get paid, and all salaries and hourly pay should go into a fund to benefit Uber.
Sorry. False analogy.
Cool. Care to explain how?
First i was being mildly facetious. But truth be told, Students already earn money for their athletic ability in the form of scholarships, housing and food. The idea that they make more for the university then they get back is bs at about all but 10 schools. Comparing to a corporation doesn't hold water.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
7/6/2021 2:48 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
The idea that they make more for the university then they get back is bs at about all but 10 schools. Comparing to a corporation doesn't hold water.
In the aggregate. But it's much more common at an individual level.

Let's say Preston comes back next year and his doing so is the difference between Ohio playing 2 games on national TV vs. Ohio playing 7 games on National TV. And the difference between losing in the MAC Championship, and a Sweet 16 run. And he plays his way into the 1st round, is the subject of a dozen feel good, look-how-far-he's-come national media profiles, all of which result in a ton of publicity for the university.

In that scenario you think Jason Preston should have to give all NIL money to the university because in the aggregate OU athletes don't make more for the university that they get back?
Last Edited: 7/6/2021 2:51:20 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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El Gato Roberto
7/6/2021 3:20 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
The idea that they make more for the university then they get back is bs at about all but 10 schools. Comparing to a corporation doesn't hold water.
In the aggregate. But it's much more common at an individual level.

Let's say Preston comes back next year and his doing so is the difference between Ohio playing 2 games on national TV vs. Ohio playing 7 games on National TV. And the difference between losing in the MAC Championship, and a Sweet 16 run. And he plays his way into the 1st round, is the subject of a dozen feel good, look-how-far-he's-come national media profiles, all of which result in a ton of publicity for the university.

In that scenario you think Jason Preston should have to give all NIL money to the university because in the aggregate OU athletes don't make more for the university that they get back?
I am not up to date on current NCAA policy and the impacts of the changes. But when I think back on the Rick Tellander article in SI many years ago about his experiences at Northwestern. It seemed that all he wanted to do was maybe deliver Pizzas for a little "walking around money". His beef was that he would be in violation of his agreement if he earned any money outside the athletic scholarship.
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The Optimist
7/6/2021 5:31 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Depends on whether or not Jason stays.
Seems like guys now have a much bigger safety net to come back to school... Jason wouldn’t get nothing coming back to school...
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longtiimelurker
7/6/2021 7:08 PM
El Gato Roberto wrote:expand_more
I am not up to date on current NCAA policy and the impacts of the changes. But when I think back on the Rick Tellander article in SI many years ago about his experiences at Northwestern. It seemed that all he wanted to do was maybe deliver Pizzas for a little "walking around money". His beef was that he would be in violation of his agreement if he earned any money outside the athletic scholarship.
Is that right? I know several athletes that have "made money outside the athletic scholarship" in many different and mostly legal ways. Is there a stipulation that says they can not make that money? If so, how do they get paid for working camps and other things?
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El Gato Roberto
7/6/2021 7:48 PM
longtiimelurker wrote:expand_more
I am not up to date on current NCAA policy and the impacts of the changes. But when I think back on the Rick Tellander article in SI many years ago about his experiences at Northwestern. It seemed that all he wanted to do was maybe deliver Pizzas for a little "walking around money". His beef was that he would be in violation of his agreement if he earned any money outside the athletic scholarship.
Is that right? I know several athletes that have "made money outside the athletic scholarship" in many different and mostly legal ways. Is there a stipulation that says they can not make that money? If so, how do they get paid for working camps and other things?
I may be mistaken, I read it a while ago. But I was struck by how Tellander was not able to make money like other students. As a student in the 70s & 80s I worked every odd job I could find when I was in school, it hit home. I remember the “work-study” students had limits on the hours they could work, while I didn’t. When I read Tellander’s article I really felt for the ordinary athletes on scholarships who did not have the same chance to earn as I had. I guess my feeling is that not every athlete is going to get a car with this new rule, but they may have more ability to earn some money.
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BillyTheCat
7/7/2021 1:26 PM
El Gato Roberto wrote:expand_more
I am not up to date on current NCAA policy and the impacts of the changes. But when I think back on the Rick Tellander article in SI many years ago about his experiences at Northwestern. It seemed that all he wanted to do was maybe deliver Pizzas for a little "walking around money". His beef was that he would be in violation of his agreement if he earned any money outside the athletic scholarship.
Is that right? I know several athletes that have "made money outside the athletic scholarship" in many different and mostly legal ways. Is there a stipulation that says they can not make that money? If so, how do they get paid for working camps and other things?
I may be mistaken, I read it a while ago. But I was struck by how Tellander was not able to make money like other students. As a student in the 70s & 80s I worked every odd job I could find when I was in school, it hit home. I remember the “work-study” students had limits on the hours they could work, while I didn’t. When I read Tellander’s article I really felt for the ordinary athletes on scholarships who did not have the same chance to earn as I had. I guess my feeling is that not every athlete is going to get a car with this new rule, but they may have more ability to earn some money.
It's a time issue, not a legal issue.
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longtiimelurker
7/7/2021 9:56 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
I am not up to date on current NCAA policy and the impacts of the changes. But when I think back on the Rick Tellander article in SI many years ago about his experiences at Northwestern. It seemed that all he wanted to do was maybe deliver Pizzas for a little "walking around money". His beef was that he would be in violation of his agreement if he earned any money outside the athletic scholarship.
Is that right? I know several athletes that have "made money outside the athletic scholarship" in many different and mostly legal ways. Is there a stipulation that says they can not make that money? If so, how do they get paid for working camps and other things?
I may be mistaken, I read it a while ago. But I was struck by how Tellander was not able to make money like other students. As a student in the 70s & 80s I worked every odd job I could find when I was in school, it hit home. I remember the “work-study” students had limits on the hours they could work, while I didn’t. When I read Tellander’s article I really felt for the ordinary athletes on scholarships who did not have the same chance to earn as I had. I guess my feeling is that not every athlete is going to get a car with this new rule, but they may have more ability to earn some money.
It's a time issue, not a legal issue.
Which would explain Stainbrook driving Ubers in the Queen City
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Pataskala
7/12/2021 4:06 PM
Then there's O$U lineman Harry Miller who's using his NIL to help poor kids in Nicaragua: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2021/0... /
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OhioCatFan
7/22/2021 11:42 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Then there's O$U lineman Harry Miller who's using his NIL to help poor kids in Nicaragua: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2021/0... /
+1 I hope that this idea catches on.
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JSF
8/4/2021 11:42 PM
sharmaayushb wrote:expand_more
Thanks for the clarification.
You're welcome!
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fraukzsent
7/13/2023 2:38 AM
False analogy.
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GraffZ06
7/15/2023 1:04 PM
Raising threads from the dead, and providing no quotes for context as to whom or what they're responding to.

All in a first post.

Congratulations! That's good stuff.
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