? Oh, and isn't that the same Bruce Weber that is now at K-State and going to the dance?
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Outstanding point about Bruce Weber!! In fact, isn't Kansas State a 4 seed? He did a great job this season and I'm sure the Kansas State fans are happy (so far).
I did not say anything with the first quote but now a second one shown up. FOrget all the rest of the conversation and lets just digress and talk about this situation apart from the discussion.
There is a huge difference in those 2. Groce got a team in disarray with glaring holes, bad attitudes and lots of weakness' with regard to personnel, positions unfilled and mental toughness. THey lost their best player and only true middle to the NBA. He did what he could with it and made lemonade.
Weber got Frank Martins squad with strength at every position poised to make a pretty good run at a conference title. I do think he did a good job in getting them in system and letting them play but that team i s well balanced, smart, deep and talented with not many holes or glaring weakness.
2 really different situations.... ny repspected opinions predict in 4 years Weber will be in the same boat he was in at Illinois or worse.
Holding Weber up as doing a great job in obtaining a 4 seed is a bit misleading. If he would have got them on a 2 line....that would have been a Great job as he would have taken them to a level above where they should have been. There are already threads on their boards about his recruits.
We now return you to your regular mess......