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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:38 AM
Forgive my ignorance...Is Omni enrolled in some capacity, which allows him to be a graduate assistant (not to mention play intramural sports)?  Is this a loophole programs use to just get another assistant coach?
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:50 AM
Very enjoyable episode.

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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:01 PM
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Forgive my ignorance...Is Omni enrolled in some capacity, which allows him to be a graduate assistant (not to mention play intramural sports)?  Is this a loophole programs use to just get another assistant coach?


He's listed on the roster as a Graduate Assistant. I think the official NCAA rule is that you're allowed to have two.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 9:25 AM
Taped this episode and just watched it--thought it was excellent.

Anyone have the link so I can forward it to others on email?

Scratch that request--found it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHDO_dQvEaM
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Posted: 2/21/2013 10:12 AM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
Forgive my ignorance...Is Omni enrolled in some capacity, which allows him to be a graduate assistant (not to mention play intramural sports)?  Is this a loophole programs use to just get another assistant coach?


He's listed on the roster as a Graduate Assistant. I think the official NCAA rule is that you're allowed to have two.


I know but what I'm asking is does the graduate assistant have to be enrolled at the school?  And do programs use the 2 allowed graduate assistants to bring in aspiring coaches who do the bare minimum to be eligible for the title of student which allows them to have this graduate assistant title?  Just curious.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 12:13 PM


Found a couple of different citations. You do have to be enrolled and in good standing in a post graduate program

According to the NCAA, the rationale is: Current legislation requires that in order for a graduate assistant coach to be appointed, he or she must have either received his or her first baccalaureate degree or has exhausted athletics eligibility (whichever occurs later) within the previous seven years. It is now more likely that the graduate-assistant coach position will once again allow a recent graduate to be involved in coaching activities while continuing what should be the primary pursuit of the position -- a postgraduate education. This proposal is intended to establish two additional opportunities for individuals to advance their educational and career pursuits, while also possibly providing additional minority coaching opportunities.

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Under NCAA rules, graduate assistants are paid an amount equal to a school's full grant-in-aid. Texas Tech, for instance, will pay its grad assistants $17,300. And the G.A.s must be full-time students in grad school.

 

As for coaching duties, grad assistants can be like full-time coaches, but they aren't permitted to contact or evaluate recruits off campus. G.A.s can phone prospects, though

the biggest problem facing programs now is the use of grad assistant programs  to bring in assistant coaches who are mid 50's and between jobs but have close ties to head coaches. The normal intent of the rule is evident for 20 somethings on the end of their career to continue their studies while getting into coaching. This new wrinkle is coaches taking care of friends while gaining a pretty good get for the coaching staff at a bargain basement price. Those coaches working on a staff while drawing a salary form a school where they have been dismissed and continuing to work in coaching is on the NCAA radar presently.

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Posted: 2/21/2013 1:56 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
Very enjoyable episode.



Notify the producers - SBH approves.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 2:05 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Very enjoyable episode.



Notify the producers - SBH approves.



You mean Tim Burke, right?  He's the ultimate arbiter of truth and beauty on this board.




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Posted: 2/22/2013 9:49 AM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more


Found a couple of different citations. You do have to be enrolled and in good standing in a post graduate program

According to the NCAA, the rationale is: Current legislation requires that in order for a graduate assistant coach to be appointed, he or she must have either received his or her first baccalaureate degree or has exhausted athletics eligibility (whichever occurs later) within the previous seven years. It is now more likely that the graduate-assistant coach position will once again allow a recent graduate to be involved in coaching activities while continuing what should be the primary pursuit of the position -- a postgraduate education. This proposal is intended to establish two additional opportunities for individuals to advance their educational and career pursuits, while also possibly providing additional minority coaching opportunities.

Additional Info

Under NCAA rules, graduate assistants are paid an amount equal to a school's full grant-in-aid. Texas Tech, for instance, will pay its grad assistants $17,300. And the G.A.s must be full-time students in grad school.

 

As for coaching duties, grad assistants can be like full-time coaches, but they aren't permitted to contact or evaluate recruits off campus. G.A.s can phone prospects, though

the biggest problem facing programs now is the use of grad assistant programs  to bring in assistant coaches who are mid 50's and between jobs but have close ties to head coaches. The normal intent of the rule is evident for 20 somethings on the end of their career to continue their studies while getting into coaching. This new wrinkle is coaches taking care of friends while gaining a pretty good get for the coaching staff at a bargain basement price. Those coaches working on a staff while drawing a salary form a school where they have been dismissed and continuing to work in coaching is on the NCAA radar presently.



Not to mention the problem the NCAA used to have where a team would recruit a kid, then his high school coach or family member would get a job on the bench right beside the college head coach. The NCAA has since noticed that and finally put an end to it. That's actually one of the rules I agree with 100%.

Back to Ruck's original question though: I'm not sure how strictly they enforce the rule of having to be in enrolled and in good academic standing. I'm guessing that most who want to be head coaches in the future will take their grad schools classes for a couple of years, then jump up to a DBO job and stop taking classes.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 7:12 PM
Might be a good spot to put Gary Trent in next year??

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Posted: 2/23/2013 3:08 AM
I understand the different points of view on the content.  Aside from that, this is terrific work.  Really, really excellent.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 7:00 PM
Episode 1:

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Posted: 2/26/2013 7:02 PM
Episode 2:

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Posted: 2/26/2013 7:03 PM
Episode 3:

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Posted: 2/26/2013 9:37 PM
Drake warms my heart.
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Posted: 3/2/2013 6:59 PM
Whoa--lots of wide opens for those Belmonts.
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Posted: 3/6/2013 1:34 PM
Check out 20:11 of episode 3.  It looks like Stevie is wearing a Fiami hat.  And if so, why?  
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Posted: 3/6/2013 5:50 PM
Because he likes Lebron James?
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Posted: 3/12/2013 4:33 PM
Episode 4:

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Posted: 3/12/2013 10:34 PM
Episode 5:

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Posted: 3/20/2013 2:08 PM
Episode 6:

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Posted: 3/21/2013 9:17 AM
Not gonna lie, the last episode sorta made me bummed again.  At least the edited out the horrendous last 10 minutes against (Kr)Akron.
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