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Topic: JC vs Boals - Next Level????
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Posted: 3/25/2013 11:34 PM
Casper71 wrote:expand_more
Don't doubt that our defensive efficiency was that good numerically...but are you kidding me?  Our schedule strength was 184 according to Sagrin.  I figure if we get that number down to about 250 we could be #1 in defensive efficiency rating.  Would anybody really care about the number then?  I think, more than anything, our number says we played pretty good defense against a bunch of crappy MAC teams.  Wonder what the ratings were for Belmont, Memphi or OK?

On the other hand, the Ilini had a schedule strength of #4.  Do you really think you could compare their defensive number to ours and have an apples to apples comparison?  

Sometimes, it takes the "expertly trained eye" to know if a team is playing good defense (haha).


FWIW:
Illinois (Def. PPG = 64.9)(Ranks 122)   OHIO (Def. PPG = 64.5)(Ranks 111)
Opponent Mean PPG 74.53   Opponent Mean PPG 66.18
Opponent Mean Rank PPG 145.56   Opponent Mean Rank PPG 176.68
Opponent Median PPG 68.50   Opponent Median PPG 66.70
Opponent Median Rank PPG 128.00   Opponent Median Rank PPG 179.00

Illinois (Def.Eff. = 0.969)(Ranks 136)   OHIO (Def.Eff. = 0.924)(Ranks 47)
Opponent Mean Off.Eff 1.02   Opponent Mean Off.Eff 0.98
Opponent Mean Rank Off.Eff 131.77   Opponent Mean Rank Off.Eff 172.59
Opponent Median Off.Eff 1.02   Opponent Median Off.Eff 1.00
Opponent Median Off.Eff.Rank 102.00   Opponent Median Off.Eff.Rank 148.00

To summarize (and someone please correct me if I'm misinterpreting these statistics):
Scoring Defense:
Illinois's opposition had an average (mean) score 8.35 points/game more than ours (1.8 points/game more using the medians)
Against that higher scoring opposition, Illinois allowed 0.4 points per game more than us (mean), so in points per game terms and given their opponents, I'd say Illinois's defense was better than ours.

Defensive Efficiency (I THINK this is points/possession):
Illinois's opposition had an average (mean) offensive efficiency that was 0.040 more than our opposition (0.024 more using  the medians), while our defensive efficiency was 0.045 better than theirs, making our defensive efficiency marginally better than theirs, given the opposition.

Thoughts? Am I using these numbers correctly?
Thanks


Edit: Stats compiled based on data taken from www.teamrankings.com and excludes data from games involving non-D1 opponents
Last Edited: 3/25/2013 11:35:15 PM by mf279801
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Posted: 3/26/2013 8:24 AM
One thing that always appears to be true when someone like me expects better results from our current coaches.
People evade the issue by comparing the coach under discussion with others.
Let's not do a comparison check but rather review each coach on his or her performance.
If people on this board are pleased with JC's results that's fine.
If people are looking for improvement that's fine too.
The AD appears to be looking for improvement as well.
I am looking for improvement and that shows up in the W - L record, tournament record, bowl game record, as well as the GPA.
There is a direct correlation between size of the pay check and expected results.
If the reports are accurate JC's pay check is larger than what JG's was here at Ohio.
Dissapointment was the word to describe this years results.
We will reconvene on this subject this time next year and evaluate JC's 1st 2 years.




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Posted: 3/26/2013 10:23 AM
71 BOBCAT wrote:expand_more
One thing that always appears to be true when someone like me expects better results from our current coaches.
People evade the issue by comparing the coach under discussion with others.
Let's not do a comparison check but rather review each coach on his or her performance.
If people on this board are pleased with JC's results that's fine.
If people are looking for improvement that's fine too.
The AD appears to be looking for improvement as well.
I am looking for improvement and that shows up in the W - L record, tournament record, bowl game record, as well as the GPA.
There is a direct correlation between size of the pay check and expected results.
If the reports are accurate JC's pay check is larger than what JG's was here at Ohio.
Dissapointment was the word to describe this years results.
We will reconvene on this subject this time next year and evaluate JC's 1st 2 years.




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