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Posted: 4/7/2013 8:05 PM
When teams make it to the Sweet 16 or Final 4 do they revenue share with the other team in their conference ? 
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Posted: 4/7/2013 8:36 PM
Yep. Every round is an addtional win share for the conference. Thanks for nothing Akron. 

Source: businessofcollegesports.com/2012/03/02/how-much-money-do-conferences-earn-from-march-madness/
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Posted: 4/7/2013 9:06 PM
bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:expand_more
Yep. Every round is an addtional win share for the conference. Thanks for nothing Akron. 

Source: businessofcollegesports.com/2012/03/02/how-much-money-do-conferences-earn-from-march-madness/


Big advocate in this corner for rewarding the teams in the conference that advance. Let em keep a bit of the money they earn by advancing
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Posted: 4/8/2013 7:48 AM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
Yep. Every round is an addtional win share for the conference. Thanks for nothing Akron. 

Source: businessofcollegesports.com/2012/03/02/how-much-money-do-conferences-earn-from-march-madness/


Big advocate in this corner for rewarding the teams in the conference that advance. Let em keep a bit of the money they earn by advancing


The conference can distribute it that way if they want.
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Posted: 4/8/2013 9:04 AM
SouthernCat wrote:expand_more
Yep. Every round is an addtional win share for the conference. Thanks for nothing Akron. 

Source: businessofcollegesports.com/2012/03/02/how-much-money-do-conferences-earn-from-march-madness/


Big advocate in this corner for rewarding the teams in the conference that advance. Let em keep a bit of the money they earn by advancing


The conference can distribute it that way if they want.


Your reference for that comment?
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Posted: 4/8/2013 9:58 AM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
Yep. Every round is an addtional win share for the conference. Thanks for nothing Akron. 

Source: businessofcollegesports.com/2012/03/02/how-much-money-do-conferences-earn-from-march-madness/


Big advocate in this corner for rewarding the teams in the conference that advance. Let em keep a bit of the money they earn by advancing


The conference can distribute it that way if they want.


Your reference for that comment?


http://businessofcollegesports.com/2013/03/27/where-does-all-the-ncaa-tournament-money-go/

Conferences are free to divide the money how they want, and are encouraged to divide it equally, but this article states, not all do.
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Posted: 4/8/2013 10:31 AM
So it's like this.
Last Edited: 4/8/2013 10:31:30 AM by Pataskala
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Posted: 4/8/2013 10:32 AM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
http://businessofcollegesports.com/2013/03/27/where-does-all-the-ncaa-tournament-money-go/

Conferences are free to divide the money how they want, and are encouraged to divide it equally, but this article states, not all do.


I was alluding to the MAC and whether there was a link to how the MAC does it. I am aware that it is at the discretion of the conference. It is wholly unacceptable to me that the teams putting money into their programs and trying to be competitive are splitting evenly with the ones that seemingly do not shive a git.
 
I am also not impressed by the programs that have a building a team capable of winning the MAC tourney and being satisfied to just make the Dance and not really be competitive
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Posted: 4/8/2013 5:39 PM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
http://businessofcollegesports.com/2013/03/27/where-does-.../

Conferences are free to divide the money how they want, and are encouraged to divide it equally, but this article states, not all do.


I was alluding to the MAC and whether there was a link to how the MAC does it. I am aware that it is at the discretion of the conference. It is wholly unacceptable to me that the teams putting money into their programs and trying to be competitive are splitting evenly with the ones that seemingly do not shive a git.


The MAC does. Schaus told me last month Ohio got an extra $30,000 this season because of it.
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Posted: 4/9/2013 9:47 AM
Speaking of money, this is as good a place as any to point out that in addition to Butler, VCU, ad Gonzaga, we now have seen Wichita State "take the next step" as a mid-major. 4 schools, 0 FBS football teams. Not a coincidence.

And where is this most apparent? Coaching salary. Here's a list of the 62 highest paid coaches in the country: 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/salaries/ncaab/coach/

(For what it's worth, I don't think it's 100% accurate, as Jim Christian makes $425,000, which puts him on park with Keith Dambrot at 48th in the nation, and I know Chris Mooney makes about 700k at Richmond.)

But what's very interesting is where the above mentioned schools fall in relation to Illinois, the school that hired Groce away. Groce's salary is lower than Mark Few's, very slightly higher than Shaka Smart's, 250k higher than Greg Marshall's, and 240k more than Brad Stevens.

Bottom line is that if we want to compete with those schools, we need to pay like those schools. And unless we stumble into a Boone T. Pickens type alumnus who really likes basketball, the only realistic path to do so is to stop paying for the right to call ourselves an FBS football team, and acknowledge that we're not even truly eligible for the same championship that major conference schools are.
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Posted: 4/9/2013 9:53 AM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
And where is this most apparent? Coaching salary. Here's a list of the 62 highest paid coaches in the country: 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/salaries/ncaab/coach/

(For what it's worth, I don't think it's 100% accurate, as Jim Christian makes $425,000, which puts him on park with Keith Dambrot at 48th in the nation, and I know Chris Mooney makes about 700k at Richmond.)


Uhhhh, I think that's just coaches in the NCAA Tournament. Hence, no Richmond or Ohio.
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Posted: 4/9/2013 10:16 AM
bobcat72 wrote:expand_more
And where is this most apparent? Coaching salary. Here's a list of the 62 highest paid coaches in the country: 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/salaries/ncaab/coach/

(For what it's worth, I don't think it's 100% accurate, as Jim Christian makes $425,000, which puts him on park with Keith Dambrot at 48th in the nation, and I know Chris Mooney makes about 700k at Richmond.)


Uhhhh, I think that's just coaches in the NCAA Tournament. Hence, no Richmond or Ohio.


Haha. That makes sense. Oops.
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Posted: 4/9/2013 11:01 PM
JSF wrote:expand_more
http://businessofcollegesports.com/2013/03/27/where-does-.../

Conferences are free to divide the money how they want, and are encouraged to divide it equally, but this article states, not all do.


I was alluding to the MAC and whether there was a link to how the MAC does it. I am aware that it is at the discretion of the conference. It is wholly unacceptable to me that the teams putting money into their programs and trying to be competitive are splitting evenly with the ones that seemingly do not shive a git.


The MAC does. Schaus told me last month Ohio got an extra $30,000 this season because of it.
I will take that as confirmation
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Posted: 4/10/2013 11:31 AM
JSF wrote:expand_more
The MAC does. Schaus told me last month Ohio got an extra $30,000 this season because of it.


An extra 30K above what the normal conference share is? That is confirmed that is in additon to ......?
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Posted: 4/10/2013 11:33 AM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
It is wholly unacceptable to me that the teams putting money into their programs and trying to be competitive are splitting evenly with the ones that seemingly do not shive a git.


The center point of millions of political debates over the years extends into college basketball too.
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Posted: 4/10/2013 2:15 PM
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The MAC does. Schaus told me last month Ohio got an extra $30,000 this season because of it.


An extra 30K above what the normal conference share is?


Yes, above the normal share. But it might have been 30K total since the policy was implemented and not just this year. Arkley was with me; he might remember.
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Posted: 4/10/2013 7:58 PM
The MAC rewards schools that invest in their programs and are successful and they have ever since John was commish
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Posted: 4/10/2013 8:19 PM
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The MAC rewards schools that invest in their programs and are successful and they have ever since John was commish


That opens a Pandora's box of questions. I have never paid much attention to that end of things. Care to elaborate on the statement. John? What did John put in place as a reward system? Was it monetary? Was it favorable exposure on TV? Was it favorable scheduling with more time between games for favored teams? Assignment of favorable officials.

That statement opens all sorts of coool doors.

If it was monetary, is there a link to the formulae or is it discretionary? Good stuff....not sure if anyone at the upper levels wants it out in the public but it is interesting given that the NCAA has said they return the bulk of monies to the conferences. I have read that each conference decides, whether through a member vote, board, executive committee or commish how it is dissemI inated and to whom.

30k for wins over GTown, Mich, USF and the accompanying shares seems like a small bump.

Thanks for the info, I wonder where I can find some of the details on dissemination.
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Posted: 4/10/2013 11:17 PM
Best I've seen is intimations of a formula but not the real deal.
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