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Posted: 12/3/2013 1:41 PM
"Eastern Michigan has a very high-style arena. It's going to be very tough to play in there, and those guys are going to be very up to play us," he said.

He's right about the arena, but good golly, it's not a tough place to play...
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Posted: 12/3/2013 1:43 PM
I disagree.  It has to be extremely difficult to play in an arena that has no energy in it. 
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Posted: 12/3/2013 1:56 PM
Would not be surprised if EMU wins this game. Anyone else thinking same thing?
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Posted: 12/3/2013 2:12 PM
I think EMU can win but it doesn't have anything to do with it being a tough place to play. EMU's got a tough squad this year. Not looking forward to Ohio traveling up to the Echo Center later this year to face their team.
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Posted: 12/3/2013 2:57 PM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
"Eastern Michigan has a very high-style arena. It's going to be very tough to play in there, and those guys are going to be very up to play us," he said.

He's right about the arena, but good golly, it's not a tough place to play...


We haven't won up there since 2006.
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Posted: 12/3/2013 4:51 PM
OUVan wrote:expand_more
We haven't won up there since 2006.


I believe the problem there is the "sight lines," right borna? 
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Posted: 12/3/2013 5:16 PM
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He's right about the arena, but good golly, it's not a tough place to play...


I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.
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Posted: 12/3/2013 5:22 PM
Probably because it feels too much like a practice.
Last Edited: 12/3/2013 5:23:05 PM by fsohio09
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Posted: 12/3/2013 5:25 PM
JSF wrote:expand_more
He's right about the arena, but good golly, it's not a tough place to play...


I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.

It's interesting that some people say that, but I wonder if there are statistics to show it to be true? Are there different levels of home court advantage for arenas of various capacities and various attendances?

 
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Posted: 12/3/2013 6:51 PM
"The towels are too itchy there. I'm not sure we're going to be able to hang with them after using itchy towels."
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Posted: 12/3/2013 7:37 PM
Eastern Michigan leads UMASS 28-24 with 3:13 left in first half.

Also, looks like they actually have some fans in attendance.
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Posted: 12/3/2013 7:44 PM
At the half, EMU leads UMASS 35-31.

EMU only 3-12 from the free throw line.
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Posted: 12/3/2013 7:44 PM
35-31 EMU at halftime. EMU shooting an abysmal 3-12 from the line.
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Posted: 12/3/2013 8:52 PM
Watched the last three or four minutes of the game, where they played like a typical EMU team. (fouling on three point makes, missing layups, bricking FTs). But the surprising thing is they actually had more than 10 fans there.
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Posted: 12/3/2013 10:34 PM
Exactly 1304 more than 10, to be exact.
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Posted: 12/3/2013 10:52 PM
1300 fans and the announcers were genuinely excited about the size of the crowd. have mercy.
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Posted: 12/3/2013 11:42 PM
UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
He's right about the arena, but good golly, it's not a tough place to play...


I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.

It's interesting that some people say that, but I wonder if there are statistics to show it to be true? Are there different levels of home court advantage for arenas of various capacities and various attendances?

 

Yes. They vary.............

 
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Posted: 12/3/2013 11:51 PM
Looking forward to see if his "coach speak" 'bout playin' in the Convo will include 4 Japanese dialects versions................
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Posted: 12/4/2013 8:52 AM
UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.

It's interesting that some people say that, but I wonder if there are statistics to show it to be true? Are there different levels of home court advantage for arenas of various capacities and various attendances?


I believe it has been studied at greath length, with the conclusion being the atmosphere means next to nothing.  Home court advantage has the same effect in the smallest and/or least exciting conferences as it does in the high energy conferences.  It is more about the comforts of home and familarity than it is the fan atmosphere.
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Posted: 12/4/2013 9:20 AM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.

It's interesting that some people say that, but I wonder if there are statistics to show it to be true? Are there different levels of home court advantage for arenas of various capacities and various attendances?


I believe it has been studied at greath length, with the conclusion being the atmosphere means next to nothing.  Home court advantage has the same effect in the smallest and/or least exciting conferences as it does in the high energy conferences.  It is more about the comforts of home and familarity than it is the fan atmosphere.


Preach it bruthuh.
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Posted: 12/4/2013 9:41 AM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.

It's interesting that some people say that, but I wonder if there are statistics to show it to be true? Are there different levels of home court advantage for arenas of various capacities and various attendances?


I believe it has been studied at greath length, with the conclusion being the atmosphere means next to nothing.  Home court advantage has the same effect in the smallest and/or least exciting conferences as it does in the high energy conferences.  It is more about the comforts of home and familarity than it is the fan atmosphere.


And the referee advantage. Of course, whether or not atmosphere actually makes a difference doesn't stop players and coaches from believing it does.
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Posted: 12/4/2013 10:04 AM
JSF wrote:expand_more
I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.

It's interesting that some people say that, but I wonder if there are statistics to show it to be true? Are there different levels of home court advantage for arenas of various capacities and various attendances?


I believe it has been studied at greath length, with the conclusion being the atmosphere means next to nothing.  Home court advantage has the same effect in the smallest and/or least exciting conferences as it does in the high energy conferences.  It is more about the comforts of home and familarity than it is the fan atmosphere.


And the referee advantage. Of course, whether or not atmosphere actually makes a difference doesn't stop players and coaches from believing it does.


^^^^^^^ all this is true....plus being in your own bed ...or at least in a bed on the same campus, eating in your dining hall and having your daily routine not revolving around the dry heat in a hotel room, hours of waiting between shoot around, stiffness fromthe bus ride and packing/unpacking the X box.
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:02 AM
JSF wrote:expand_more
I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.

It's interesting that some people say that, but I wonder if there are statistics to show it to be true? Are there different levels of home court advantage for arenas of various capacities and various attendances?



I believe it has been studied at greath length, with the conclusion being the atmosphere means next to nothing.  Home court advantage has the same effect in the smallest and/or least exciting conferences as it does in the high energy conferences.  It is more about the comforts of home and familarity than it is the fan atmosphere.


And the referee advantage. Of course, whether or not atmosphere actually makes a difference doesn't stop players and coaches from believing it does.

I believe a strong case could be made that the perceptions of players and coaches makes a difference when measuring beyond an individual event.

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