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Ted Thompson
1/6/2024 9:12 PM

Use this thread to talk about anything game-related. For away games, we may have a separate travel thread.

Date: Tuesday January 9th, 2024 7:00 PM

Opponent: Bowling Green  (10-4, 1-1 MAC)

Site: Stroh Center

TV/Streaming: ESPN+

Radio: Ohio Radio, The Varsity Network App (free)

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Cats5
1/7/2024 1:01 AM
Don’t let Sam Towns look good. Everyone will need to pray on this.
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greencat
1/7/2024 2:36 AM
Cats5 wrote:expand_more
Don’t let Sam Towns look good. Everyone will need to pray on this.
Towns never got off the bench last game. They went with a 7 man rotation and it came back to bite them. A 14 point first half lead turned into a 16 point loss.

I'm not surprised they got destroyed in the second half. Playing Trey Thomas for 39 minutes? He's a pure 3-point shooter. He doesn't play much defense even when he's not gassed. Our guards should drive on him or post him up every chance they get.
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Cats5
1/7/2024 8:05 AM
greencat wrote:expand_more
Don’t let Sam Towns look good. Everyone will need to pray on this.
Towns never got off the bench last game. They went with a 7 man rotation and it came back to bite them. A 14 point first half lead turned into a 16 point loss.

I'm not surprised they got destroyed in the second half. Playing Trey Thomas for 39 minutes? He's a pure 3-point shooter. He doesn't play much defense even when he's not gassed. Our guards should drive on him or post him up every chance they get.
I could be wrong but I thought I saw Sam in street clothes on the bench vs CrAkron
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M.D.W.S.T
1/7/2024 2:07 PM
greencat wrote:expand_more
Don’t let Sam Towns look good. Everyone will need to pray on this.
Towns never got off the bench last game. They went with a 7 man rotation and it came back to bite them. A 14 point first half lead turned into a 16 point loss.

I'm not surprised they got destroyed in the second half. Playing Trey Thomas for 39 minutes? He's a pure 3-point shooter. He doesn't play much defense even when he's not gassed. Our guards should drive on him or post him up every chance they get.
Towns has been injured the last few weeks.

He played 38 minutes in the game before being injured.

He's averaging 7 / 6 this season.
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GraffZ06
1/7/2024 2:51 PM
We could be ranked and I'd fully expect a loss at BGStdU. That place is a house of horrors. Let alone this year when we aren't very good.

I expect a double digit loss.
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M.D.W.S.T
1/7/2024 2:55 PM
GraffZ06 wrote:expand_more
We could be ranked and I'd fully expect a loss at BGStdU. That place is a house of horrors. Let alone this year when we aren't very good.

I expect a double digit loss.
I think you might be right, we don’t have anyone that can match up to Hill or their seven footer.
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MonroeClassmate
1/7/2024 7:10 PM
GraffZ06 wrote:expand_more
We could be ranked and I'd fully expect a loss at BGStdU. That place is a house of horrors. Let alone this year when we aren't very good.

I expect a double digit loss.
Sure, anything may happen playing up there. However, looking at OHIO stats vs theirs give them the better defense on scoring average and commit far fewer fouls and slightly lead in total rebounds per game.

But OHIO has more steals, better field goal percentage, better three point shooting percentage, less turnovers, more offensive rebounds per game. (Ohio top 30 in TO per contest so far this season!!!)

I am thinking another close game, no more than 6 points unless it becomes a late free throw shooting affair. James and Mitchell will score more Tuesday to cover what Clayton and Hunter and Sheldon likely not getting what they did Saturday. Hoping the shooting funk ended vs NIU.
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FearLeon
1/7/2024 7:28 PM
GraffZ06 wrote:expand_more
We could be ranked and I'd fully expect a loss at BGStdU. That place is a house of horrors. Let alone this year when we aren't very good.

I expect a double digit loss.
Agree. This place always sucks for us.
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OUcats82
1/8/2024 10:26 AM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
We could be ranked and I'd fully expect a loss at BGStdU. That place is a house of horrors. Let alone this year when we aren't very good.

I expect a double digit loss.
Agree. This place always sucks for us.
All of this. I think the Cats only have a handful of wins up there this entire century?
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GoCats105
1/8/2024 10:42 AM
OUcats82 wrote:expand_more
We could be ranked and I'd fully expect a loss at BGStdU. That place is a house of horrors. Let alone this year when we aren't very good.

I expect a double digit loss.
Agree. This place always sucks for us.
All of this. I think the Cats only have a handful of wins up there this entire century?
We haven't won there since 2016-17 and even that feels like an anamoly - a 24 point route just weeks after we lost Tony Campbell for the season. That was also Saul Phillips' only win up there.

Jim Christian was 2-0 there and John Groce was Ofer.

By my count we're 5-17 since 2000. Ouchies.
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shabamon
1/8/2024 10:47 AM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
We could be ranked and I'd fully expect a loss at BGStdU. That place is a house of horrors. Let alone this year when we aren't very good.

I expect a double digit loss.
Agree. This place always sucks for us.
All of this. I think the Cats only have a handful of wins up there this entire century?
We haven't won there since 2016-17 and even that feels like an anamoly - a 24 point route just weeks after we lost Tony Campbell for the season. That was also Saul Phillips' only win up there.

Jim Christian was 2-0 there and John Groce was Ofer.

By my count we're 5-17 since 2000. Ouchies.
Bowling Green had a ton of guys injured/suspended for that 2017 game. It shouldn't even count. I think they started a football player. Ellis Dozier had his only career dunk that day. That should tell you something.
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Bobcat1998
1/8/2024 12:14 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
We could be ranked and I'd fully expect a loss at BGStdU. That place is a house of horrors. Let alone this year when we aren't very good.

I expect a double digit loss.
Agree. This place always sucks for us.
All of this. I think the Cats only have a handful of wins up there this entire century?
We haven't won there since 2016-17 and even that feels like an anamoly - a 24 point route just weeks after we lost Tony Campbell for the season. That was also Saul Phillips' only win up there.

Jim Christian was 2-0 there and John Groce was Ofer.

By my count we're 5-17 since 2000. Ouchies.
Bowling Green had a ton of guys injured/suspended for that 2017 game. It shouldn't even count. I think they started a football player. Ellis Dozier had his only career dunk that day. That should tell you something.
I wish we had Ellis Dozier this year. And Wadly. And Foster. And Springs--I could keep going--and Jacobs--and anyone who isn't taking a seat on the bench in street clothes every game.
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bobcatsquared
1/8/2024 12:37 PM
Would you take Sam Towns?
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Recovering Journalist
1/8/2024 1:46 PM
I often go to BG games because the town is fun and it's a pretty easy drive, but I can't bring myself to do it this year. I thought I'd have at least a pang or two of regret giving up my season tickets but between the changing landscape of college athletics and this team falling firmly into mediocrity in a sub-par conference, I don't feel like I'm missing anything. Going to the Davidson game was enough suffering for the whole season.

I'll see them in the tournament if they make it to Cleveland but that would frankly surprise me.

At least losing on the tundra of Northwest Ohio is one thing that will harken back to better times for this program.
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Andrew Ruck
1/8/2024 2:31 PM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
I often go to BG games because the town is fun and it's a pretty easy drive, but I can't bring myself to do it this year. I thought I'd have at least a pang or two of regret giving up my season tickets but between the changing landscape of college athletics and this team falling firmly into mediocrity in a sub-par conference, I don't feel like I'm missing anything. Going to the Davidson game was enough suffering for the whole season.

I'll see them in the tournament if they make it to Cleveland but that would frankly surprise me.

At least losing on the tundra of Northwest Ohio is one thing that will harken back to better times for this program.
Fine, see you when they starting playing well again.
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shabamon
1/8/2024 3:06 PM
M.D.W.S.T wrote:expand_more
We could be ranked and I'd fully expect a loss at BGStdU. That place is a house of horrors. Let alone this year when we aren't very good.

I expect a double digit loss.
I think you might be right, we don’t have anyone that can match up to Hill or their seven footer.
It's funny you say that about their seven footer considering he came from Australia to SOUTHERN UTAH and we have a 6'11'' transfer from the ACC. Recruiting is weird.
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greencat
1/8/2024 3:24 PM
Bobcat1998 wrote:expand_more
We could be ranked and I'd fully expect a loss at BGStdU. That place is a house of horrors. Let alone this year when we aren't very good.

I expect a double digit loss.
Agree. This place always sucks for us.
All of this. I think the Cats only have a handful of wins up there this entire century?
We haven't won there since 2016-17 and even that feels like an anamoly - a 24 point route just weeks after we lost Tony Campbell for the season. That was also Saul Phillips' only win up there.

Jim Christian was 2-0 there and John Groce was Ofer.

By my count we're 5-17 since 2000. Ouchies.
Bowling Green had a ton of guys injured/suspended for that 2017 game. It shouldn't even count. I think they started a football player. Ellis Dozier had his only career dunk that day. That should tell you something.
I wish we had Ellis Dozier this year. And Wadly. And Foster. And Springs--I could keep going--and Jacobs--and anyone who isn't taking a seat on the bench in street clothes every game.
Dozier wasn't even good enough to get playing time at tiny Claflin College in South Carolina where he transferred to. (NAIA?)

He averaged 0.6 ppg and 0.3 rebounds per game at Ohio. He might as well have been sitting on the bench in street clothes. He makes Colin Granger look like an NBA lottery pick.
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ohiocatfan1
1/8/2024 3:52 PM
Cats5 wrote:expand_more
Don’t let Sam Towns look good. Everyone will need to pray on this.
Why? He's a former Bobcat. He's gone now. Ancient history.
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M.D.W.S.T
1/8/2024 6:59 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
We could be ranked and I'd fully expect a loss at BGStdU. That place is a house of horrors. Let alone this year when we aren't very good.

I expect a double digit loss.
I think you might be right, we don’t have anyone that can match up to Hill or their seven footer.
It's funny you say that about their seven footer considering he came from Australia to SOUTHERN UTAH and we have a 6'11'' transfer from the ACC. Recruiting is weird.
Hill is from South Union or somewhere too.

These are the kinda guys I wish we would take a chance on.

- Led the NJCAA in points scored. (26ppg)
- Scored double-digit points in every game.
- Had nine games with at least 30 points.

I'm happy to take a chance on someone like Ike, but when someone like IJ is sitting on a free scholarship...
Last Edited: 1/9/2024 11:03:03 AM by M.D.W.S.T
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GoCats105
1/8/2024 7:05 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
We could be ranked and I'd fully expect a loss at BGStdU. That place is a house of horrors. Let alone this year when we aren't very good.

I expect a double digit loss.
Agree. This place always sucks for us.
All of this. I think the Cats only have a handful of wins up there this entire century?
We haven't won there since 2016-17 and even that feels like an anamoly - a 24 point route just weeks after we lost Tony Campbell for the season. That was also Saul Phillips' only win up there.

Jim Christian was 2-0 there and John Groce was Ofer.

By my count we're 5-17 since 2000. Ouchies.
Bowling Green had a ton of guys injured/suspended for that 2017 game. It shouldn't even count. I think they started a football player. Ellis Dozier had his only career dunk that day. That should tell you something.
Take out that win and it's been damn near a decade since Ohio has won in Bowling Green.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2014-03-04...
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BobcatSports
1/8/2024 9:15 PM
Bookies are on drugs, we open as 11/2 pt favorites
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randy
1/8/2024 9:46 PM
HaHa , thats funny "bookies" i'll bet the farm on that spread tomorrow. normally I would like to attend a game like this @BG after the holidays. However, (after almost 45 years of going to games) I just don't know how to approach feeling good about this season. Its really unfortunate. I try to be optimistic
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Ted Thompson
1/8/2024 11:54 PM

 

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Andrew Ruck
1/9/2024 8:23 AM
BobcatSports wrote:expand_more
Bookies are on drugs, we open as 11/2 pt favorites
Think you misread that. We are 1.5 point favorites.
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