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Posted: 2/25/2014 3:23 PM
In looking for what the TV Schedule is going to look like for Cleveland in a few weeks, I noted that the MAC website....leaves plenty to be desired as a nice way to put it.  At least it does in terms of having accurate and updated TV schedule for MAC games.

Does anyone know for certain when the Time Warner Sports broadcasts of the MAC Tournament will begin?  Wednesday?  Thursday?  At all?  I also sent a tweet to Mr. J Guy, but have not yet received a response.
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Posted: 2/25/2014 4:42 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
In looking for what the TV Schedule is going to look like for Cleveland in a few weeks, I noted that the MAC website....leaves plenty to be desired as a nice way to put it.  At least it does in terms of having accurate and updated TV schedule for MAC games.

Does anyone know for certain when the Time Warner Sports broadcasts of the MAC Tournament will begin?  Wednesday?  Thursday?  At all?  I also sent a tweet to Mr. J Guy, but have not yet received a response.


It's in my MAC Tourney post: http://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard/topic.asp?FromPa...

TWC will televise all games except final starting on Wednesday. I verified through Matt Sarz which is probably more reliable than the MAC.
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Posted: 2/25/2014 7:16 PM
Ted Thompson wrote:expand_more
In looking for what the TV Schedule is going to look like for Cleveland in a few weeks, I noted that the MAC website....leaves plenty to be desired as a nice way to put it.  At least it does in terms of having accurate and updated TV schedule for MAC games.

Does anyone know for certain when the Time Warner Sports broadcasts of the MAC Tournament will begin?  Wednesday?  Thursday?  At all?  I also sent a tweet to Mr. J Guy, but have not yet received a response.


It's in my MAC Tourney post: http://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard/topic.asp?FromPa...

TWC will televise all games except final starting on Wednesday. I verified through Matt Sarz which is probably more reliable than the MAC.

Wonder what that means for the webcast. They've been using the home school's feed on the conference website throughout the regular season. But when you're at a neutral site for the tournament...

 
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Posted: 2/25/2014 7:55 PM
The first webcast I ever watched on mac-sports.com was the MAC quarters about 7 years ago. They used the scoreboard video for the feed.
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Posted: 2/26/2014 4:48 AM
If this is a different telecaster that in prior years, is there a chance that the semi-finals (and even the quarter-finals) will not be blacked-out nationwide on TV, such as STO on DirecTV and Dish? They've been blacked out for a number of years now, to my complete frustration.
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Posted: 2/26/2014 11:56 AM
I also recall watching a scoreboard feed from the Q at one point. It sucked.

Regarding blackout - are regular season games blacked out across the country? My guess is the rules are the same, because the rest of the deal is the same as STO had - they are sub licensing games from ESPN, and probably have purchased the right to show the game in that Ohio area on TV, while giving ESPN the right to show it online outside of that area (so both of these are blacked out where the other is available.

Also, is TWCSC even available on a sports tier on DBS services?
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Posted: 2/26/2014 1:39 PM
anorris wrote:expand_more
Regarding blackout - are regular season games blacked out across the country? My guess is the rules are the same, because the rest of the deal is the same as STO had - they are sub licensing games from ESPN, and probably have purchased the right to show the game in that Ohio area on TV, while giving ESPN the right to show it online outside of that area (so both of these are blacked out where the other is available.

Also, is TWCSC even available on a sports tier on DBS services?

Great question on the blackouts outside of the MAC footprint.  I have been curious on this, but haven't been able to verify.  I believe they are blacked out on ESPN Full Court/ESPN3 only in the designated areas, which is largely Ohio.  Some of the TWCSC games have also been picked up by other provides (Comcast for a couple NIU games) and those also have been blacked out on directv on both the sports tier and ESPN FC/ESPN3 in the footprint.

If I'm right, for satellite at least, we've traded who gets to see the games.  Those in the MAC footprint do not, and those outside the MAC footprint, do.

While Directv does have TWCSC-type channels for other areas (LA for one) on their premium sports tier, those channels are blacked out for most of their content to viewers outside the area.  If Directv were to add TWCSC, those in the footprint should ideally be able to see the games live.  I called and gave the CSC rep my request, but I don't think we have the support to get that done anytime soon.  At least we can still watch the Pac-12 Network...oh wait, nevermind.

Of course, we can still see the game live on MACDN.  I've had more bad quality than good, and to avoid choppiness I've just listened to Russ/Rob.

The better news is at least we can see replays on ESPN3.  I've used that for each game and just watched it later.  The only gripe I have here is the screen size is hit or miss.  I've noticed a handful of games where its either boxed (looks non-HD), or stretched and the view stretches to the left/right and off the screen.  I thought it was the feed at first, but I noticed during the ESPN Buzzerbeater look ins (which are not blacked out), the feed is fine.
 
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Posted: 2/26/2014 3:17 PM
I've never had any issues with blackouts in Maryland.
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Posted: 2/26/2014 4:21 PM
I still think the fact that a MAC Sports channel is blacked out in Ohio, a state where half of the conference teams' reside, is not only unfathomable but it's also assinine. Are you kidding me? Why would the MAC take that deal?
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:45 AM
TheRealMikeDrake wrote:expand_more
Regarding blackout - are regular season games blacked out across the country? My guess is the rules are the same, because the rest of the deal is the same as STO had - they are sub licensing games from ESPN, and probably have purchased the right to show the game in that Ohio area on TV, while giving ESPN the right to show it online outside of that area (so both of these are blacked out where the other is available.

Also, is TWCSC even available on a sports tier on DBS services?

Great question on the blackouts outside of the MAC footprint.  I have been curious on this, but haven't been able to verify.  I believe they are blacked out on ESPN Full Court/ESPN3 only in the designated areas, which is largely Ohio.  Some of the TWCSC games have also been picked up by other provides (Comcast for a couple NIU games) and those also have been blacked out on directv on both the sports tier and ESPN FC/ESPN3 in the footprint.

If I'm right, for satellite at least, we've traded who gets to see the games.  Those in the MAC footprint do not, and those outside the MAC footprint, do.

While Directv does have TWCSC-type channels for other areas (LA for one) on their premium sports tier, those channels are blacked out for most of their content to viewers outside the area.  If Directv were to add TWCSC, those in the footprint should ideally be able to see the games live.  I called and gave the CSC rep my request, but I don't think we have the support to get that done anytime soon.  At least we can still watch the Pac-12 Network...oh wait, nevermind.

That all sounds in line with my understanding.

TheRealMikeDrake wrote:expand_more
The better news is at least we can see replays on ESPN3.  I've used that for each game and just watched it later.  The only gripe I have here is the screen size is hit or miss.  I've noticed a handful of games where its either boxed (looks non-HD), or stretched and the view stretches to the left/right and off the screen.  I thought it was the feed at first, but I noticed during the ESPN Buzzerbeater look ins (which are not blacked out), the feed is fine.

This is probably due to our infrastructure here in Bristol. We bring in all the feeds here via satellite or fiber in HD, and Buzzer Beater is produced in Bristol, which is why it looks fine. ESPN3's actual video encoding and streaming infrastructure is handled by MLB Advanced Media, which is either in Stamford or NYC, I forget which. Regardless, the ESPN3 game streams are sent via fiber circuits to their facility, and there are some bandwidth constraints there, in terms of how many HD feeds can be sent. You'll probably notice on, say, Tuesday, a MAC game will probably look quite good. On Saturday, as a lower-tier game, it may well be sent down SD  - while it ideally would be squished (made anamorphic, to be technically correct), then expanded on the other end for at least a 16:9 picture, that requires some extra hardware. Thus, sometimes it will be center cut, like old traditional SD (boxed, as you describe). What you're seeing when it is stretched off the screen is video sent center cut, but being treated on the other end as though it is anamorphic, and thus being stretched back out instead of boxed. That's just a bad setting, which is why you'll often see it correct after a while, once somebody notices.

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I still think the fact that a MAC Sports channel is blacked out in Ohio, a state where half of the conference teams' reside, is not only unfathomable but it's also assinine. Are you kidding me? Why would the MAC take that deal?
The rightsholder (TWC) is protecting their rights within the state, which is their perogative. I'm sure what they're trying to do is sell the channel, which is an upstart, to other cable/satellite companies with service within the state. If they offer their most-viewed programming (live events) through Full Court or ESPN3 within that territory, they lose leverage in making those deals, because nobody is going to call WOW and tell them to carry the network. As for why the MAC would take that deal... it's better than no deal? We don't exactly have a ton of bargaining powe
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