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Posted: 4/10/2014 12:01 AM
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Posted: 4/10/2014 8:54 AM
I really, really like his energy and zeal.  He seems to be genuinely happy and excited to be at Ohio and wants to, as our basketball coach, be an active part of our greater university community.  I have never known any of our previous coaches personally (nor our new one) so I would not want to misjudge them but they were a little too reserved and/or stoic for my tastes.  I also realize that Saul's enthusiasm may come off as annoying to others.  IMHO his personality type works well in leading and inspiring 18-22 year olds.  I think a lot of what he may have learned while working in his dad's hardware store growing up is still put to use daily in his interactions and treatment of others.


 
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Posted: 4/10/2014 9:44 AM
What's in a number?   Saul is the 18th Ohio HC.  U.S. Grant was the 18th president of the United States.  Grant was the man who took the Union Army "to the next level" and victory in the War of the Rebellion.  Perhaps, Saul will be the guy to truly take OHIO to the next level.  Might be stretching for something here, but come on guys and gals you'd all be upset if I couldn't figure out at least one Civil War parallel here.  
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Posted: 4/10/2014 9:48 AM
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What's in a number?   Saul is the 18th Ohio HC.  U.S. Grant was the 18th president of the United States.  Grant was the man who took the Union Army "to the next level" and victory in the War of the Rebellion.  Perhaps, Saul will be the guy to truly take OHIO to the next level.  Might be stretching for something here, but come on guys and gals you'd all be upset if I couldn't figure out at least one Civil War parallel here.  

As you know, Grant had a reputation as a general who was a "meatgrinder," a man who would send his troops into impossibly bad strategic circumstances, and hope to gain victory by his willingness to sacrifice his own men. 

Maybe that works in a basketball analogy. Maybe it doesn't. Just an observation.

 
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Posted: 4/10/2014 10:07 AM
This was an awesome video. Not only am I happy to have Saul as the coach, but also that OU is investing in Media as well. 
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Posted: 4/10/2014 10:32 AM
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What's in a number?   Saul is the 18th Ohio HC.  U.S. Grant was the 18th president of the United States.  Grant was the man who took the Union Army "to the next level" and victory in the War of the Rebellion.  Perhaps, Saul will be the guy to truly take OHIO to the next level.  Might be stretching for something here, but come on guys and gals you'd all be upset if I couldn't figure out at least one Civil War parallel here.  

At OHIO University we should be making W.T. Sherman analogies, not U.S. Grant. Why? Because Sherman was practically a Bobcat by birth, hailing from Lancaster OH. Also, Sherman was much more badass than Grant, burning a path of destruction through the South and breaking the will of the insurrection. 

 
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Posted: 4/10/2014 11:24 AM
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What's in a number?   Saul is the 18th Ohio HC.  U.S. Grant was the 18th president of the United States.  Grant was the man who took the Union Army "to the next level" and victory in the War of the Rebellion.  Perhaps, Saul will be the guy to truly take OHIO to the next level.  Might be stretching for something here, but come on guys and gals you'd all be upset if I couldn't figure out at least one Civil War parallel here.  

At OHIO University we should be making W.T. Sherman analogies, not U.S. Grant. Why? Because Sherman was practically a Bobcat by birth, hailing from Lancaster OH. Also, Sherman was much more badass than Grant, burning a path of destruction through the South and breaking the will of the insurrection. 

Wasn't it Sherman that first came up with the "Rip 'em up, Tear 'em up, Give 'em Hell OHIO" cheer?  I believe he penned these lines when his step father, Thomas Ewing, returned to campus for the annual rugby match with the Yale of the West (Miami) in 1855.  (For the record: Recent research has shown Sherman's march through Georgia was not nearly as destructive as has been claimed by Southern lore; however in South Carolina the boys, including 50 Ohio regiments, "gave 'em hell!) 

 
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Posted: 4/10/2014 11:28 AM
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[QUOTE=mf279801][QUOTE=OhioCatFan] (For the record: Recent research has shown Sherman's march through Georgia was relatively benign, but not so in South Carolina.) 

 


That actually is true.  In Georgia, he was only concerned with hurting the South's military complex.  If it had everything to do with their ability to wage war he destroyed it.  If the local population absolutely depended on it to survive he left it.  In South Carolina, however, he viewed them as the ones who started it all (which is absolutely true).  In his mind they wouldn't have been fighting the war if South Carolina hadn't fired on Fort Sumter.  So he pretty much told his army to "have at it" and had at it they did.
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. . ..  In Georgia, he was only concerned with hurting the South's military complex.  If it had everything to do with their ability to wage war he destroyed it.  If the local population absolutely depended on it to survive he left it.  In South Carolina, however, he viewed them as the ones who started it all (which is absolutely true).  In his mind they wouldn't have been fighting the war if South Carolina hadn't fired on Fort Sumter.  So he pretty much told his army to "have at it" and had at it they did.

This generally true, but in South Carolina the destruction was much greater than Sherman envisioned.  Military discipline at points completely broke down.  The men had it in for South Carolina -- the mother of secession -- even more than did Sherman himself.  Interestingly enough, as soon as Sherman's army crossed the border into North Carolina military disciple returned and destruction was again limited to things that could support the CSA's war machine.  This meant railroad tracks, munition stores, arsenals, telegraph lines, some factories, etc.  Private homes, except when unoccupied, were generally left alone.  

 
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Posted: 4/10/2014 12:06 PM
Great history lesson guys...was in Savannah GA a couple of years ago and read up about that stuff.  And, fact is, Savannah was pretty much void of the destruction (supposedly as a Christmas present to the South).  It is a beautiful city!
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Posted: 4/10/2014 12:27 PM
I was born in Lancaster and raised in New Lexington about 10-15 minutes from the home of general Sheridan, who also burnt the south. My high school's biggest rival was the Sheridan Generals, where OL recruit for the football team Tate Leavitt went
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Great history lesson guys...was in Savannah GA a couple of years ago and read up about that stuff.  And, fact is, Savannah was pretty much void of the destruction (supposedly as a Christmas present to the South).  It is a beautiful city!

Just did this on spring break. Better than a beach. Lancaster Ohio featured prominently

 
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Great history lesson guys...was in Savannah GA a couple of years ago and read up about that stuff.  And, fact is, Savannah was pretty much void of the destruction (supposedly as a Christmas present to the South).  It is a beautiful city!


Savannah may be beautiful, but can anyone in the know explain the horrible smell in the area? I've driven the area a few times in my life and I've nearly passed out from the odor. Do they have some sort of fish-gut processing plant there?
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Posted: 4/10/2014 1:06 PM
I think it is a paper plant that is miles away.  Charleston will also get the same smell if the winds drift in the right direction.  When I went there on business once, I asked my local manager what the smell was, she said it was the smell of money. 
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Posted: 4/10/2014 1:32 PM
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Great history lesson guys...was in Savannah GA a couple of years ago and read up about that stuff.  And, fact is, Savannah was pretty much void of the destruction (supposedly as a Christmas present to the South).  It is a beautiful city!

The Savannah city fathers rode out to meet Sherman and asked for "Federal protection" for the city.  Sherman took the city itself without firing hardly a shot.  Several forts nearby had to be assault first, though.  Sherman's troops ringed the city; however, conveniently (and purposely some scholars believe) Sherman left an escape route for General Hardee to flea with his men to South Carolina.  Sherman's MO was to avoid a battle whenever he could.  Total casualties (killed and wounded) on the whole March to the Sea and the Carolinas campaign (both Union and Confederate) was around 5,000.  Compare that with one day at Antietam, Gettysburg, Shiloh, etc.   The Christmas present terminology actually comes from Sherman's telegram to Lincoln giving him Savannah as a Christmas present.  


 
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Posted: 4/10/2014 2:46 PM
Hey, I was close.  I knew it was given to somebody as a Christmas present

And, one last comment on the entertainment value/success index...in the other major sport at OHIO we have FS.

As has been said there is NO ONE cookie cutter formula to being a successful college coach!
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Great history lesson guys...was in Savannah GA a couple of years ago and read up about that stuff.  And, fact is, Savannah was pretty much void of the destruction (supposedly as a Christmas present to the South).  It is a beautiful city!

The Savannah city fathers rode out to meet Sherman and asked for "Federal protection" for the city.  Sherman took the city itself without firing hardly a shot.  Several forts nearby had to be assault first, though.  Sherman's troops ringed the city; however, conveniently (and purposely some scholars believe) Sherman left an escape route for General Hardee to flea with his men to South Carolina.  Sherman's MO was to avoid a battle whenever he could.  Total casualties (killed and wounded) on the whole March to the Sea and the Carolinas campaign (both Union and Confederate) was around 5,000.  Compare that with one day at Antietam, Gettysburg, Shiloh, etc.   The Christmas present terminology actually comes from Sherman's telegram to Lincoln giving him Savannah as a Christmas present.  


 


Swabbie spelling, old pal.  Your wife has the red pen ready for the correction????
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Great history lesson guys...was in Savannah GA a couple of years ago and read up about that stuff.  And, fact is, Savannah was pretty much void of the destruction (supposedly as a Christmas present to the South).  It is a beautiful city!

The Savannah city fathers rode out to meet Sherman and asked for "Federal protection" for the city.  Sherman took the city itself without firing hardly a shot.  Several forts nearby had to be assault first, though.  Sherman's troops ringed the city; however, conveniently (and purposely some scholars believe) Sherman left an escape route for General Hardee to flea with his men to South Carolina.  Sherman's MO was to avoid a battle whenever he could.  Total casualties (killed and wounded) on the whole March to the Sea and the Carolinas campaign (both Union and Confederate) was around 5,000.  Compare that with one day at Antietam, Gettysburg, Shiloh, etc.   The Christmas present terminology actually comes from Sherman's telegram to Lincoln giving him Savannah as a Christmas present.  


 


Swabbie spelling, old pal.  Your wife has the red pen ready for the correction????

How do you know that they didn't have fleas?  

 
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Posted: 4/10/2014 4:17 PM
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Swabbie spelling, old pal.  Your wife has the red pen ready for the correction????


damn you beat me to it.....I thought he had maybe made up a new term for some type of military jumping and manouevering. (brits sp) on the way outta town.
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Posted: 4/10/2014 5:43 PM
How happy does Schaus seem to say goodbye Christian...HELLO SAUL BALL!!
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Posted: 4/10/2014 5:46 PM
Grant was also known for having rampant corruption throughout his administration, for what that's worth.
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Posted: 4/10/2014 5:53 PM
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Grant was also known for having rampant corruption throughout his administration, for what that's worth.
Lincoln Assassination Conspiracy Theorists also have Grant in the mix. He declined an invite from Abe to attend the show at Ford's
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Posted: 4/10/2014 8:38 PM
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Grant was also known for having rampant corruption throughout his administration, for what that's worth.


You need to read my friend Frank Scaturro's book Grant Reconsidered for the latest scholarship on this issue. A quick summary: two of the three scandals during the Grant administration had roots in the Johnson administration and Grant's strong support of African American rights has been overlooked and is now being re-examed in the light of new research on Reconstruction that is moving away from the Lost Cause view of that period.  
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Posted: 4/10/2014 8:49 PM
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 Lincoln Assassination Conspiracy Theorists also have Grant in the mix. He declined an invite from Abe to attend the show at Ford's


Actually, it was Grant's wife that made the command decision on this matter.  Mrs. Grant and Mrs. Lincoln did not get along very well, to put it mildly.  But, if you are a conspiracy theorist who has had a close encounter of the third kind facts are not necessarily the defining aspects of the cognitive results of your synaptic transmissions.   
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Lincoln Assassination Conspiracy Theorists also have Grant in the mix. He declined an invite from Abe to attend the show at Ford's


Actually, it was Grant's wife that made the command decision on this matter. Mrs. Grant and Mrs. Lincoln did not get along very well, to put it mildly. But, if you are a conspiracy theorist who has had a close encounter of the third kind facts are not necessarily the defining aspects of the cognitive results of your synaptic transmissions.
Not sure if conspiracy theorists have synaptic transmissions. Booth however probably was not the one shot in the barn.
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