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Posted: 4/17/2014 3:50 PM
With the first Bobcat Caravan coming up soon (LINK), does anyone know if Coach Phillips will be attending?



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Tuesday, April 29: Cleveland - 5:30-7:30pm
Harry Buffalo
2120 East Fourth Street
Cleveland, OH 44105
 
Thursday, May 1: Athens - 5:30-7:30pm
Shade Winery
401 Gilkey Ridge Road
Shade, OH 45776
Presented by The Citizens Bank
 
Thursday, May 15: Cincinnati - 5:30-7:30pm
Montgomery Inn Boat House
925 Riverside Drive 
Cincinnati, OH 45202
 
Tuesday, May 20: Lancaster - 6:00-8:00pm
OU Lancaster Campus
1570 Granville Pike
Lancaster, OH 43130
 
Thursday, May 29: Dayton - 6:00-8:00pm
Fox & Hound Bar & Grille
2661 Fairfield Commons Blvd
Beavercreek, OH 45431
 
Tuesday, June 3: Columbus - 5:30-7:30pm 
The Bluestone
583 Broad Street
Columbus, OH 43215

 
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Posted: 4/17/2014 5:01 PM
I'm down for the Cincinnati tour stop. Appreciate the heads up. 
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Posted: 4/17/2014 6:25 PM
Speaking of Cincinnati, as a Clevelander, I am envious of your Caravan location--just to smell those ribs!


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Posted: 4/17/2014 6:33 PM
Interesting that Akron-Canton get biffed this year.




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Posted: 4/17/2014 7:41 PM
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Interesting that Akron-Canton get biffed this year.

I have always enjoyed the Dayton situations and they are seemingly packed. How full were the Akron and Parkersburg Caravans in the past? 

 
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Posted: 4/17/2014 10:05 PM
I've signed up for Dayton; a new venue, Fox and Hounds.
Hope both Coach Solich and Coach Phillips
are there.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 10:16 PM
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Interesting that Akron-Canton get biffed this year.
I'd actually be able to attend if there was a CAK one. I don't get home from work until 5:30... Canton's a 15 minute drive, Cleveland is an hour or so. 

Oh well.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 11:10 PM
They used to do these in Toledo...until I moved there.
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They used to do these in Toledo...until I moved there.

You know when I posted above .... I wondered if I should throw a comment about Toledo feeling left out but I thought that BG and UT may be so pervasive up there there may not be a big contingent.....now that I think of it the BG games are always well attended with alums up that way. .....why not have the Caravan up there one year? 

 
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Posted: 4/17/2014 11:51 PM
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I've signed up for Dayton; a new venue, Fox and Hounds.
Hope both Coach Solich and Coach Phillips
are there.

1949? 

 
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Posted: 4/18/2014 8:07 AM
MonroeClassmate wrote:expand_more
Speaking of Cincinnati, as a Clevelander, I am envious of your Caravan location--just to smell those ribs!


Especially when your alternative is Harry Buffalo. Can a brother get some Winking Lizard up in here?
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:27 AM
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Interesting that Akron-Canton get biffed this year.






Actually, last year too.  Just couldn't attract more than 30 or so fans.  Tried several venues with disappointing attendance.  Don't blame Athletics for skipping Akron-Canton.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 10:55 AM
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Interesting that Akron-Canton get biffed this year.


Actually, last year too.  Just couldn't attract more than 30 or so fans.  Tried several venues with disappointing attendance.  Don't blame Athletics for skipping Akron-Canton.


It doesn't really surprise me. Although Cleveland is a huge alumni base, Akron/Canton is probably relatively small. Being from the area and just knowing who went to school and where, I kind of got the sense that most people in that area attended either Kent State, Akron, or Ohio State. At least that's how it was for my high school and a number of neighboring schools.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:13 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
Interesting that Akron-Canton get biffed this year.


Actually, last year too.  Just couldn't attract more than 30 or so fans.  Tried several venues with disappointing attendance.  Don't blame Athletics for skipping Akron-Canton.


It doesn't really surprise me. Although Cleveland is a huge alumni base, Akron/Canton is probably relatively small. Being from the area and just knowing who went to school and where, I kind of got the sense that most people in that area attended either Kent State, Akron, or Ohio State. At least that's how it was more my high school and a number of neighboring schools.

I would add that the Cleveland one wasn't' particularly well attended last year either. My guess is less than 40 people, including our buddy Elton Alexander. It was nice in that it gave plenty of opportunity to chat with the coaches, but I was disappointed by the turnout. That said, I don't think it's well advertised here. The only way I knew about it was this site and its less than two weeks away.

 
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:35 PM
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I would add that the Cleveland one wasn't' particularly well attended last year either. My guess is less than 40 people, including our buddy Elton Alexander. It was nice in that it gave plenty of opportunity to chat with the coaches, but I was disappointed by the turnout. That said, I don't think it's well advertised here. The only way I knew about it was this site and its less than two weeks away.

 


Need to take a lesson from OU pittsburgh.....I went to a function there and get mailings allllllll the time. Good to keep up ....I think I might be on the Washington list to fromthe thing at George mason.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 1:32 PM
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Speaking of Cincinnati, as a Clevelander, I am envious of your Caravan location--just to smell those ribs!


That would be a great location here in Columbus as well....
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Posted: 4/18/2014 1:49 PM
Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
Interesting that Akron-Canton get biffed this year.




Actually, last year too.  Just couldn't attract more than 30 or so fans.  Tried several venues with disappointing attendance.  Don't blame Athletics for skipping Akron-Canton.



I really like our AD and his staff, but my experience has been that they are not willing to accept suggestions for dealing with fan interest/involvement issues.  I, for example, have suggested several times that they need to conduct focus groups in NE Ohio and other key markets to find out why more alumni don't become involved in athletic events. To my knowledge that has never happened.  I suggested that Athletics invite families of incoming freshmen to attend Caravan events -- a good friend whose two daughters have ended up in Athens told me they would have been very interested in attending a spring Caravan event if they had known about it.  Again, my perception is that Mr. Schaus will say he appreciates your input but it then ends up in the round file.  I complained about the egregious quality of our Web feeds and was assured someone would look into it for me.  Never heard a word back.  I have two-three other examples just from my personal experience…and I am someone who has donated pretty generously to a variety of projects. How many zeros must there be in your check to have them listen to you?

So, yes, we didn't see robust growth in Akron-Canton attendance, but we can ultimately blame ourselves. And our solution apparently is to give up?



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Posted: 4/18/2014 2:22 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
Interesting that Akron-Canton get biffed this year.


Actually, last year too.  Just couldn't attract more than 30 or so fans.  Tried several venues with disappointing attendance.  Don't blame Athletics for skipping Akron-Canton.



I really like our AD and his staff, but my experience has been that they are not willing to accept suggestions for dealing with fan interest/involvement issues.  I, for example, have suggested several times that they need to conduct focus groups in NE Ohio and other key markets to find out why more alumni don't become involved in athletic events. To my knowledge that has never happened.  I suggested that Athletics invite families of incoming freshmen to attend Caravan events -- a good friend whose two daughters have ended up in Athens told me they would have been very interested in attending a spring Caravan event if they had known about it.  Again, my perception is that Mr. Schaus will say he appreciates your input but it then ends up in the round file.  I complained about the egregious quality of our Web feeds and was assured someone would look into it for me.  Never heard a word back.  I have two-three other examples just from my personal experience…and I am someone who has donated pretty generously to a variety of projects. How many zeros must there be in your check to have them listen to you?

So, yes, we didn't see robust growth in Akron-Canton attendance, but we can ultimately blame ourselves. And our solution apparently is to give up?


The focus groups idea is a good one indeed.  I have loads of people that I know that are Alumni from Columbus that very rarely come back to Athens for weekend games.  Frankly I don't understand why an alum living a 75-80 minute drive away from Athens wouldn't make 2-3 weekend trips back a year.  If I were Ohio Athletics, part of the next step to increasing revenue streams would be to turn my focus right up the US-33 corridor between Athens and Dublin.

Currently, either Giving away tickets, or giving a deep discount on tickets to first year parents for a basketball game, or for prospective HS seniors and their parents also makes a ton of sense.  Why not sell $5 seats to someone like that?

Regardless of all the ideas, opinions, and criticisms, I think we can all agree that the Ohio AD has come light years since Schaus' arrival in terms of marketing, ticketing, and customer service operations.  There's still room to get a lot better, but I like what they've been doing.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 3:19 PM
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. . . .I really like our AD and his staff, but my experience has been that they are not willing to accept suggestions for dealing with fan interest/involvement issues.  . . . 

I agree.  I like JS and I think he's doing a great job, but he could "go to the next level" if he'd listen to folks' suggestions.  He's kind of a fly-by-the-seat-of-your-own pants kind of guy.  And, since his instincts are very good in this regard he finds the best basketball coach available and has him hired in three-days flat!  But, like you, I've made numerous suggestions either directly to him or to a staffer and nothing much has come of them.  Not that all of my suggestions were necessarily super, but at least a few of them were worth investigating the feasibility of and getting back to me with feedback yeah or nay.  As a result, a few years ago I just gave up in this regard and I keep my ideas for improvements and tweaks to myself.  By contrast, TB wouldn't even listen to your suggestions, but guys like Mack and Bill Rohr would listen and sometimes act on fan suggestions.  I had positive experiences in this regard with both of these latter gentlemen.  And, I was younger and brasher back then, too!

 
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Posted: 4/18/2014 3:27 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
Interesting that Akron-Canton get biffed this year.




Actually, last year too.  Just couldn't attract more than 30 or so fans.  Tried several venues with disappointing attendance.  Don't blame Athletics for skipping Akron-Canton.



I really like our AD and his staff, but my experience has been that they are not willing to accept suggestions for dealing with fan interest/involvement issues.  I, for example, have suggested several times that they need to conduct focus groups in NE Ohio and other key markets to find out why more alumni don't become involved in athletic events. To my knowledge that has never happened.  I suggested that Athletics invite families of incoming freshmen to attend Caravan events -- a good friend whose two daughters have ended up in Athens told me they would have been very interested in attending a spring Caravan event if they had known about it.  Again, my perception is that Mr. Schaus will say he appreciates your input but it then ends up in the round file.  I complained about the egregious quality of our Web feeds and was assured someone would look into it for me.  Never heard a word back.  I have two-three other examples just from my personal experience…and I am someone who has donated pretty generously to a variety of projects. How many zeros must there be in your check to have them listen to you?

So, yes, we didn't see robust growth in Akron-Canton attendance, but we can ultimately blame ourselves. And our solution apparently is to give up?



I hope what I'm about to relate doesn't come across as boasting because that certainly is not my intent.

Facts:  From 1995-2000, I served as head of the Akron-Canton Alumni Chapter.  I was surprised to learn that, back then, some 5,000 Ohio alums lived in our chapter area.  Once when I got clearance to invite Cleveland Chapter alums to an event, I learned that its territory included some 10,000 alums.  Today?  One would tend to think that well more than 15,000 alums inhabit the Cleveland/Akron/Canton area.

During those years I had only a handful of alumni email addresses.  So we - my late bride Lynne worked with me - mailed postcards and made phone calls to alums.  Here are some events we organized and approximate attendance numbers:
* Wine tasting at Wolf Creek Winery on a Saturday afternoon.  Attendance about 110.
* Pre-gamer in CSU's arena drew about 100.
* Pre-gamer at the Rubber Bowl drew some 300.  It didn't hurt that I had received confirmation from Jim Grobe that he would attend, sign autographs and pose for  photos. 
* Basketball pregamer in Kent's Student Center.  More than 100 alums packed into the room I'd reserved.  Even though it was a basketball game, I recruited Grobe and his wife Holly to attend and to hand out raffle prizes, and of course I let alums know the Grobes would attend.  Larry Hunter made time to attend.
* Other pregamers drew similar numbers.

After 6 years I let Alumni Relations know it was time to get new leadership blood for the chapter.  Anointed was a young Ohio alum who worked at U of Akron.  I briefed him a couple times on what we'd done and how we'd done it.  I gave him my accumulated alumni contact information. He seemed enthused.  Sadly it quickly became apparent that he either didn't have the time to invest to succeed as a chapter leader or wasn't so inclined.  The chapter crumbled.  It hasn't recovered.

I have no doubt that committed, energetic leadership could once again lead to strong turnouts for alumni events - including Bobcat Caravans - in the Akron-Canton area. 

In more recent years, as a Bobcat Club rep, I had as a tool email addresses.  Effective use of that tool could be central to revitalizing alumni activities in this area.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 3:40 PM
Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
Interesting that Akron-Canton get biffed this year.


Actually, last year too.  Just couldn't attract more than 30 or so fans.  Tried several venues with disappointing attendance.  Don't blame Athletics for skipping Akron-Canton.



I really like our AD and his staff, but my experience has been that they are not willing to accept suggestions for dealing with fan interest/involvement issues.  I, for example, have suggested several times that they need to conduct focus groups in NE Ohio and other key markets to find out why more alumni don't become involved in athletic events. To my knowledge that has never happened.  I suggested that Athletics invite families of incoming freshmen to attend Caravan events -- a good friend whose two daughters have ended up in Athens told me they would have been very interested in attending a spring Caravan event if they had known about it.  Again, my perception is that Mr. Schaus will say he appreciates your input but it then ends up in the round file.  I complained about the egregious quality of our Web feeds and was assured someone would look into it for me.  Never heard a word back.  I have two-three other examples just from my personal experience…and I am someone who has donated pretty generously to a variety of projects. How many zeros must there be in your check to have them listen to you?

So, yes, we didn't see robust growth in Akron-Canton attendance, but we can ultimately blame ourselves. And our solution apparently is to give up?


I hope what I'm about to relate doesn't come across as boasting because that certainly is not my intent.

Facts:  From 1995-2000, I served as head of the Akron-Canton Alumni Chapter.  I was surprised to learn that, back then, some 5,000 Ohio alums lived in our chapter area. 


That's pretty surprising to me too. I would never expect that many to be in that area. Bobcats are everywhere I guess.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 3:46 PM
Mike - I don't doubt what you say is true, but it illustrates that success with alumni engagement requires the dedicated effort of one or more volunteers. You poured a lot in, and got a lot out. After a while, you moved on, as anyone would do. I don't begrudge the head of the Cleveland chapter because I know it's a volunteer thing and I know they do a lot more than I could or would. It'd be nice if every chapter had a dynamic and engaged person, but that's a tall order with a volunteer post.

I don't know the exact answer with respect to the caravans. I just know that I've attended before and I'm more engaged in Ohio athletics than 99% of all Cleveland alumni, so this thread shouldn't be the first news I got about them with the event less than two weeks away.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:46 PM
Totally agree with Recovering Journalist as to the Cleveland caravan.  I'm going to try and make it to the Cleveland event, especially if Coach Phillips is supposed to attend, but a little over a week's notice w/ an intervening holiday isn't much notice.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:04 PM
It's always interesting to see the variety of price points of the restaurants chosen. Harry Buffalo, pretty inexpensive. I remember the Toledo ones were at Mancy's. The last time I ate there, I was near $200 for two people with filet mignon and drinks. That could be a reason Toledo didn't work out.

EDIT: And then I saw that food is free at these shindigs. I'm a moron.
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Posted: 4/19/2014 8:22 AM
Got the e-mail below from the OBC.  Looks like it's Coach Solich and an assistant basketball coach, at least for Cleveland anyway.  Understandable given the time frame.

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The annual Bobcat Caravan makes its first stop of 2014 in Cleveland on Tuesday, April 29th. The events include appearances by Ohio University's football head coach Frank Solich, an Assistant Men's Basketball Coach, and athletic director Jim Schaus.
The Cleveland Caravan will be held from 5:30-7:30 p.m. at the Harry Buffalo located at 2120 East Fourth Street.  This event will feature complimentary appetizers and non-alcoholic drinks.
Caravan stops are FREE to attend and include prize giveaways, photo opportunities, and plenty of fun. The events are hosted by the Ohio Bobcat Club and the Ohio University Alumni Association. There is no better opportunity to meet our coaches face to face and get the inside information on Ohio Athletics.

 


Edit: I just checked the attendance list, and there are only 21 people signed up right now.
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