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The Optimist
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:56 PM
Offering from Dish that allows online access to a small number of channels for $20 a month. I believe this includes ESPN and ESPN2.

We've been flirting with the death of cable for a couple years now... I think 2015 is the year...
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Posted: 1/27/2015 2:04 PM
I'm still waiting for a Netlfix/Hulu/AmazonPrime-like version of an app for sports. I would never buy satellite or cable again if I could get ESPN, Fox Sports, CBS Sports, etc. all on one app on my TV/Computer/Phone.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 2:21 PM
I now have a Slingbox in my kitchen. Tommy has been out of touch for the past 4 seasons as there is no way in Europe to get shows. Installed a slingbox in November and he has been very happy.

Strangest thingto get used to though, when I am in the Kitchen cooking and switch to a channel to watch something and all at once the tv starts jumping channels. My wheelchair spun round with a loud WTF? till I got it figured out that those hunting shows were being watched in Scotland. He has total control of the TV from his computer over there. We can even Skype and I can still beat him soundly at Jeopardy in real time.

I do too, so watching another game or even OHIO on the tube (if we were so lucky ) while I am somewhere else is totally possible.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 2:23 PM
I think people confusing Sling TV with Slingbox is a real concern.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 2:34 PM
JSF wrote:expand_more
I think people confusing Sling TV with Slingbox is a real concern.
#FirstWorldProblems
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Posted: 1/27/2015 3:12 PM
JSF wrote:expand_more
I think people confusing Sling TV with Slingbox is a real concern.

oooooohhhhhhhh

yeah .

that would be me

No idea http://www.wsj.com/articles/sling-tv-a-giant-step-from-ca...

Since I live in the country I will never see a cable but I have been trying for years to see my CBS and ESPN and such. Have talked to terrestrial guys to get an antennae high enough to pull Dayton, Ft Wayne or Indy for my locals and still get the rest via Internet.

This would be the deal if it pans out.... Thanks for the info.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 3:56 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
I'm still waiting for a Netlfix/Hulu/AmazonPrime-like version of an app for sports. I would never buy satellite or cable again if I could get ESPN, Fox Sports, CBS Sports, etc. all on one app on my TV/Computer/Phone.
borna's link explained this well.

For $20 a Month:

ESPN
ESPN 2
TNT
TBS
Food Network
HGTV
Travel Channel
Cartoon Network
Cartoon Network / Adult Swim
Disney Channel
ABC Family
CNN

This would work on TV/Computer/Phone. No Fox Sports/CBS Sports but ESPN is a nice start. This is offered by Dish but it isn't satellite. Just requires internet...

For me, ESPN is the key. Now that one is offering ESPN online I am assuming a flurry of other (similar) services will follow-up with offering ESPN online.
Last Edited: 1/27/2015 3:59:25 PM by The Optimist
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:53 PM
some day I might like to know what my satellite cost would be withOUT espn. probably cut in half without those extorting mother******* involved.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 5:46 PM
OUBobcat13 wrote:expand_more
I think people confusing Sling TV with Slingbox is a real concern.
#FirstWorldProblems
LOL
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:51 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
some day I might like to know what my satellite cost would be withOUT espn. probably cut in half without those extorting mother******* involved.
ESPN itself is $5-6 nowadays.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 7:57 AM
Here's a question I've never bothered to ask a cable or satellite rep: why can't I just sign up and pay for the channels I actually want? I only watch about 30, just give me those and cut all the B.S.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 8:34 AM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
Here's a question I've never bothered to ask a cable or satellite rep: why can't I just sign up and pay for the channels I actually want? I only watch about 30, just give me those and cut all the B.S.
I'm guessing the answer would be that your bill would be MORE expensive if the majority of those channels are sports channels. Just guessing.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 9:25 AM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
Here's a question I've never bothered to ask a cable or satellite rep: why can't I just sign up and pay for the channels I actually want? I only watch about 30, just give me those and cut all the B.S.
Channels contract with cable companies to be in certain lineups. The companies are more interested in making the providers happy than the consumers.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 9:59 AM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
Here's a question I've never bothered to ask a cable or satellite rep: why can't I just sign up and pay for the channels I actually want? I only watch about 30, just give me those and cut all the B.S.
I think there actually was legislation proposed at one time to force companies to offer stations individually, but most "experts" suggested this would just cause the overall cost to inflate and you'd end up paying more anyway.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 10:14 AM
UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Here's a question I've never bothered to ask a cable or satellite rep: why can't I just sign up and pay for the channels I actually want? I only watch about 30, just give me those and cut all the B.S.
I think there actually was legislation proposed at one time to force companies to offer stations individually, but most "experts" suggested this would just cause the overall cost to inflate and you'd end up paying more anyway.
I am pretty sure they warned about this in the article I put the link to up there
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Posted: 1/28/2015 10:38 AM
The WSJ ran an article last summer showing that ESPN amounts to over $6 per month on the average bill -- which will climb to $8 in a couple years. They also gave figures for some of the more popular channels: http://blogs.wsj.com/numbers/how-much-cable-subscribers-p.../

One reason there are so many programmers out there is because they charge so little, and for some of the shopping channels they actually pay a portion of each sale to the cable/satellite provider. Their effect on bills is negligible.

I think a la carte service may be the wave of the future for cable & satellite if they hope to compete with the Internet. I think subscribers at least want the perception that they're not paying for something they don't want. And it won't cost more, despite what the cable companies say. They'll find a way to price it reasonably to compete with Internet services.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 11:22 AM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
I think a la carte service may be the wave of the future for cable & satellite if they hope to compete with the Internet. I think subscribers at least want the perception that they're not paying for something they don't want. And it won't cost more, despite what the cable companies say. They'll find a way to price it reasonably to compete with Internet services.
If you look at what Dish is doing here, I don't think they are really "competing" with the internet as much as they are literally becoming an internet company.

This deal Dish is offering isn't satellite based at all. It is purely an internet offering. Satellite and cable as we've known it just isn't mobile enough to compete with the internet...

The combination of more mobile viewing AND more a la carte offerings is going to be great for consumers. Especially sports.
Last Edited: 1/28/2015 11:23:30 AM by The Optimist
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Posted: 1/28/2015 1:34 PM
I think an a la carte system would be a bad thing for sports. A large enough chunk of subscribers declare sports "must-see" that ESPN & others are able to get a pretty hefty rate from the cable providers, for every single subscriber. But if given a chance to pass on those sports in an a la carte system, I would be willing to bet about 75% would do so. That means they'd have to charge 4 times are much just to keep revenue flat.

And putting a rate 4 times higher (e.g. $30+ per month for ESPN) in the laps of consumers would result in a lot of rejection. The only beneficiary I can see is sports bars. I think the more things get boiled down to a specific cut and dry "do I really need this?" question, you're more likely to get a No from the end user.

From there, we could talk as well about how channel flipping and exploring can capture new fans, and sports only reaching homes of people who are explicitly willing to pay a pretty penny to view it...could have a very bad long-term effect.

The one thing sports does forever have on it's side - Sports are seen as "must-see-live" programming in a world where seemingly every other entertainment option is on-demand. This makes your advertising spots significantly more valuable.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 6:21 PM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
If you look at what Dish is doing here, I don't think they are really "competing" with the internet as much as they are literally becoming an internet company.
Bingo. And, I can't believe the other cable/satellite companies just sat around while the Hulus and Netflix of the world started up. They already had the customers and the product and channel/provider contracts. Just change how you are delivering it. Bizarre. I guess now they'll just sit back and charge us out the arse for bandwith, or whatever that's called.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 8:46 PM
Well, Comcast didn't sit around. They bought NBC and have their own streaming service, though I don't know of anyone who uses it.

Andrew does make a good point... but the sports bubble is going to pop at some point. It's just a question of what the needle is.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 10:42 PM
if the EMU game would have been on TV - I prolly would have slung it...........
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