Bobcats haven't looked real good this year ..

I said this team mailed it in two weeks ago. Nothing tonight changed my opinion. Losses with effort I can tolerate. Losses without giving a damn is another issue. Stevie's quotes after the Kent loss really are telling. I agree Bobcat1998...timely and truthful.

Tell me what MAC team Mo would not be a starter on if he was there.

Reminded me of a game back in '08 or '09 I remember when we were playing Akron and literally no students showed up. There were like 10 guys in the O Zone. It was a weird night...believe we lost in OT but can't recall for sure.

Tonight wasn't quite as bad as I remember that, but it was pretty bad. There was almost a resignation that we would lose before the ball was even tipped. Everyone was just kind of "there"...but didn't actually think we had any remote chance of winning.

Also, seems to me that our out-of-town season ticket holders have absolutely mailed it in too. A very "local" crowd this evening. Then again, don't think I'd drive from Columbus to see this team either.

Lotta locals not there either. Ozone mailed it in not long after season start. Season ticket holders couple games later. One bad season in a decade and people can't handle it (JSF) - Best Fans In The Mac lookin' pretty fickle........

Well I am a season ticket holder from Columbus who made the drive tonight. Thank goodness for all my new friends in section 105 who made the season tolerable.

About 1:10 for me also. Trouble is Nelsonville is dead now. Hmmm kind of like the basketball team.

Mo is as talented as anyone we've had at Ohio University so your question is simply answered with "no one." He would start for every team in the MAC. But starting for every team doesn't make him one of the top 15 guys in the league. Talent-wise yes, but I can make a list easily of 15 guys I would take over him if I were starting a team from scratch in this league. That's my point.

I'm in this camp. Just glad to see that Christian has also lived up to most of our predictions at BC this year. He'll be back in the MAC in 4 years.

Did you expect him to win at BC this year? BC has won more games this year than they did last year already. How dare Jim Christian think about his family and take a better job when he should be thinking about you and taking care of your interests instead.

This thread is playing out like a bad sitcom. Stomping your feet and demanding accountability is laughable. Yep, this year has gone poorly, much worse than almost anyone envisioned. I too had hoped that Saul would be able to slap some duct tape on this roster and put a competitive team together but it hasn't worked out. He's asked players to do things they aren't capable of doing (like know that we have two handfuls down low who are matchup nightmares when they get the ball near the basket and look for them before you look for your own shot). But this is just a result of circumstances. We've got recruits from three different coaching staffs on the court and each staff was looking for different things. It stinks that JC left. It stinks that JG left. But that's the reality of having a mid-major budget. If Saul is successful he's going to leave as well and probably well before his 10 year proclamation. It's going to happen and we are more than likely going to struggle the year after he leaves and people will stomp their feet, wring their hands and declare that it is unacceptable.

I missed last night's game so I can't speak to the effort delivered against BG but for the most part these kids are working hard this year. The problem is that we aren't working wisely. Our defensive cohesiveness has been pretty bad all year.

And sorry but Mo is a top 5 player in the league. He's just being asked to do more than he should have to do in the offensive end. Next game just watch what he and Tony do on each possession. It's maddening seeing all the missed opportunities.

Oh, man. I apologize. I had no idea. Hold on. I'm sure I have a ribbon or something around here...



And here's where you run off the rails. Nobody's asking you to "settle" for anything. Is there ANYBODY here saying this is OK? Should you be happy? No. I'm not. Nobody here is. I've largely restrained myself from saying what I think publicly because it will do no good. But to say the guys "could care less" (and to quote "Weird Al," "that means you do care- at least a little") is an accusation you can't back up. They're not playing the way you or I would want, but they're still playing. Effort doesn't always mean slapping the floor and diving for loose balls, especially if the effort is misguided. You can't tell me they're not trying out there, especially with all the shots they're launching. They're just not trying the right way.

All of them? Ha. This is why I said what I said. We pat ourselves on the back for how great of fans we are. Then, we hit one rough stretch and we can't wait to throw a hissy fit and throw our own players and coaches under the bus. To say all the players on the team aren't giving effort is either ignorant or malicious. Which is it?